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Turbo Charging A Tundra!

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Builds (2014-2021)' started by Black@Blue19, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:16 AM
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    This is all new as of this morning. I told this place I would deliver my truck and they could have it for as long as it takes. Been going back and forth with emails for two days. Jesse P called this morning and we got the pleasantries out of the way. They liked the idea that I was just giving them the truck and would not be there bothering them. If I was a few years younger I would stick around and ask if I could help do things!:) I was assured everything would be 100% professionally done and look good in the engine room!

    They will put on a stage one as this is going to be a kit that they sell as a bolt on type system with instructions. I asked if they would do a stage two since they had the truck and he said they would do that after they were done with finalizing and buttoning up the stage one. They would have to do some more piping work but no big deal. I have a while to decide on the stage two, want to make sure of a couple thing before I go that route. I already forgot the HP stats so I sent an email and promised that would be the last time they hear from me until I take off to deliver truck.

    Out of pocket expenses are going to be I will pay for what ever they have to pay for the Hp Tune stuff but the tune and dyno will be on them, the gauge, turbo (at their discretion) which will be the one they sell in the kit I’m sure?, meth/water system, blow off valve and maybe a new set of injectors. I am planning on 3500 out of pocket but do not think it will take all that. Labor and piping and fittings will be covered and parts will be at cost so that is pretty cool!!:) They say it will be documented and of course they will keep me up to date.

    I do not have much more to say about the project other than it sounds like a win win for me and the company. I do not want to over step my boundaries and I do not want to speak out of school so until things get rolling it is probably going to be pretty bland I think!

    I will post as I get information and I am going to invite them to post on my piece here as they progress without going overboard or stepping on toes??:). Fingers do not work well so some posts might look weird until I go back and fix things, it’s just that I might be in a hurry and I want to get it down before I forget!!:) I’ll be leaving after Turkey Day! Wish me/us luck!:)
     
  2. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:19 AM
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    Correct me if I read this wrong, you said the whole project (stage 1) will cost you $3500 total, parts and labor?
    Where on earth in Houston did you find this place?!
     
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  3. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:26 AM
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    Sounds like maybe he is donating his truck for a prototype build? Sounds slightly risky to me but I’m lame. I’m not familiar with any existing bolt-on turbo options for the 5.7.
     
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  4. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:29 AM
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    Oh..... sorry, re-read that and it is a Turbo kit not SC.... my bad.
     
  5. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:39 AM
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    You are right but there is going to be right around the first of the year. Not much risk at all. No more than anything else as far as adding something to the engine. Company is on the up and up and I am sure they will take excellent care of my truck!! After all this is going to be something they stand to make money on so I am sure they do not want to mess anything up. They have access to a dyno close by and plenty of people doing tunes now and I was told they have a couple guys that do great work. If they break something they will fix it. I have to stay professional here, I am not worried.
     
  6. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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    How much boost are we talking, 4-5 psi?
     
  7. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:45 AM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Fuel requirements?
     
  8. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:48 AM
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    This is the email I just received.


    The stage 1 kit bring about 400WHP and 430WTQ at only 4.5 PSI and the Stage II we are targeting 500WHP and about 550WTQ at 8-9 PSI Keep in mind, this would be at the wheels on a Mustang DYNO, which these truck pull 280ish in stock form, give or take,, so it's a solid 30HP per PSI!


    I put the give or take in there because there were a couple misspelled words, so I stuck that in there.
     
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    This sounds wicked, just a friendly advice.

    Please ensure you have a proper contract in place, make sure it states:
    - They are responsible for ensuring the car return in factory state should something happens, or otherwise you hold them liable.
    - The vehicle cannot be sold/loan/rented etc
    - And make sure states clearly who is responsible to what capacity when something breaks.

    This is from experience seeing folks loan out their cars for "demo".
     
  10. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:52 AM
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    To much to list:)
    none that I am aware of. Injectors on the stage two
     
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  11. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:53 AM
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    500/550 is right about the MAF limit on the 3.5" intake. does the kit increase the intake to 4.5"'s?
     
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  12. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:55 AM
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    Do not know as I am in the undecided mode for stage two. They did say that the piping will be changed once the stage one is on and documented.
     
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    I would say the stage 2 should need injectors and fuel pump
     
  14. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:56 AM
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    Fuel pump should be good but I am having some technical persons looking in to that. They say the fuel pump can handle the injectors. As they have already turned a few Tundras at their shop. This is just the finalization on the newer model to iron out anything that might pop up.
     
  15. Nov 15, 2022 at 11:58 AM
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    What pump do you have? I can tell you for sure the stock one will not handle it lol.
     
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  16. Nov 15, 2022 at 12:01 PM
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    That is one of the things I am looking into.
     
  17. Nov 15, 2022 at 12:27 PM
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    Super cool and crazy cheap for you.

    I would imagine that a finished kit would cost in the 5-6000 range.
     
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    That’s awesome, I hope it works out well for you. I’d definitely do the stage 2 as well, if not for the increased power for the fact that the intake temps should be lower with the intercooler and will keep the engine happier. Agreed, the stock fuel pump and injectors won’t cut it even if it’s an FFV. Make sure the tuner knows these trucks need a richer than usual AFR at WOT (10.5-11.5) to keep the rings cool as they have very tight ring gaps.

    I could be wrong on this so correct me as needed, but it stands to reason in my brain…..Being a turbo, you may not max the MAF voltage out to hit the 500 whp. I say that because to get 500 wheel with a supercharger the engine is really making even more power but a decent chunk of it is being immediately lost through parasitic losses to spin the supercharger rotors. To throw out some fake numbers for example an SC engine might be making 250hp over stock, but the blower instantly consumes 50hp to spin at max RPM and you wind up with a 200hp net gain. Therefore, you should be able to make the same whp/wtq as a supercharged engine but with less air and fuel since you actually get to keep all of the extra power made.
     
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    Ok here is a reply, I would say these guys are on top of it. And with their prices as they told me they will not make a penny off of me I/my engine will be in good hands.


    “Yes, 100%, Tundra does like to run Rich, our tune on the current truck start in the 12:0 range for air fuels and is down into the low 11s by peal boost and higher RPMs. In regards to the pump, we have used the Deatschwerks 340lph pump as they make one specific to the tundra and it’s a great pump. You would NOT need fuel rails for the goals with your truck.”

    They are not requiring any money up front but I do not feel right doing that and it is one less thing for anyone to worry about.

    They are going to start the process of making sure there will not be any hold up on parts given the current situations! HA!:)

    these above and what I have asked I think I have everything covered. The wait will be awesome and then going back to pick up the truck will be nuts!!!:) ?
     
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    I would gladly pay $ for an actual *turbocharger* kit for my Tundra.
     
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    Ohhh buddy, if this works out even a stage 1 would be a great help for towing without hammering on the throttle to get going plus considerable help at elevation.
     
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    No,, it is TurboKits.COM,, they posted up a dealy a couple days ago and I responded and asked a couple questions. We made the deal (1) they need a newer Tundra, (2) the minimal cost to me. (3) I told them they could have my truck for as long as it took, within reason. They have the stage 1 pretty much ready, when they get it on and documented with a couple dyno runs, test drives and on and on. They will offer the stage one as a bolt on kit after the first of the year I assume. They will take that apart and then do the Stage 2. They was happy I inquired about the Stage 2 as they do not have that as ready or I should say as complete as the stage 1. The stage 2 will take a bit of time but when they get it done they can say that they have the stage 2 complete also! The Chief In Charge sounds nice and it sounds like they have their ducks in a row so I am not expecting any troubles. Nobody likes disruption these days and they do not want any unhappy person out there putting their business in a bad light!! I was assured everything will be right and above board!!:) I expect nothing less than professionalism during this process!:)


    I will post STUFF!! as I receive it and try my best to be informative.
     
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    There's a few now I think, one guy in Dubai is running one for a while and I think you can buy it, the shop is called Race X

    https://youtu.be/OmxaMmNCObc

    Hey OP, I assume this is a single turbo right? so I assume it has a cross over pipe from driver's side to bring it up to passenger side, will there be a support bracket or are they going to run new manifolds? since you are going to have almost 60lbs of weight hanging from passenger manifold.

    I assume intake manifold is left stock?
     
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    on a side note....

    I commend you on stepping out there.

    this is good for all of mankind.



    hope to see you around in Galveston County.
     
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    Some of this I am not sure of. My main concern was my truck I am not concerned about the where tooos??

    I did get this though it is going to be on the passenger side and they will do away with my CAI . Yes I think they will replace the manifold on that side as they will have to take that off. The stage one will face the intake and the stage two will have to be rotated facing the front as there will be a nice big hole in the front of the truck!!! Ouch!!!!! I have seen a Camaro or two with the stage two and it doesn’t look that awful, I will be able to live with it for the HP!:) my CAT protection plate will have to come off to add a high flow cat and they will see about putting the plate back on.
     
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    You’ll know when I get it back home,,, you will be more than welcome to come take a looksee!!:)
     
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