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Suspension Stacking

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Jared378, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    Hello,

    Currently I am running a rough country 3” leveling kit with Pro Comp SS height-adjustable front shocks. The shocks however are set at stock length. I also have a 3” body lift kit installed as well. I am running 37” tires on this 4 wheel drive truck.

    I am getting very minimal grinding (note: I have a 1.25” spacer— necessary to clear the front control arm).

    QUESTION: I am wanting to lift my Tundra another 1-3 inches in an economical fashion. What’s the best way to do this without spending more than $800 tops?

    Other info: I have a 1” block in the back with Bilstein shocks (5100’s?). I will have to buy bigger blocks for the rear I’m thinking.

    Thanks,
    Jared
     
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  2. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:03 AM
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    Picture of truck attached

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  3. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:21 AM
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    Stacking lifts isn't a recommended practice by anyone, I especially wouldn't do it if you're already running spacers in front. I'd think the only way to get yourself a little more height without going to a drop bracket would be going with a taller body lift. Not real familiar with those though.
     
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  4. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:22 AM
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    If you want my honest opinion (you probably won't), don't do it... I see you have some mud on your truck. Are you doing this for more offroad potential? Or is this more for looks? If it is for offroad improvement, you will probably end up making it worse with all this.

    Rear blocks will give you more axle wrap potential. All the stuff you are doing up front is messing up angles, reducing travel, increasing the potential for the shocks to bottom out before you hit the bump stops (and snapping your shocks)

    Just leave is as-is and enjoy the awesomeness that is Tundra.

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  5. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:28 AM
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    If you insist..And if you are 2WD, Spindles and a bigger block.
     
  6. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:29 AM
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    I could take the front spacer out and utilize the height adjustable shock for some sort of stack. I’m guessing that too is not a good idea. However, I’m all ears. I do off-road (not too extreme) and don’t want to compromise that. Appreciate the advice so far.
     
  7. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:37 AM
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    Nothing wrong with removing the spacer and utilizing the adjustable shock. Me? I have a spacer and a preload spacer and a block in the back. Oh and also shackles. My truck stays on the road 99 percent of the time towing.
     
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  8. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:44 AM
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    Could you educate me on what a preload spacer and shackles are? Does your set up conflict with off-road ability?
     
  9. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:46 AM
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    sure, let me go take a pic real quick, i like pictures better, lol
     
  10. Feb 8, 2019 at 9:53 AM
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  11. Feb 8, 2019 at 10:02 AM
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    Here is a preload spacer. It's installed inside of the coil assembly at the top. You will need a coil spring compressor. It will stiffen up the ride a bit, but nothing uncomfortable. There are thousands in use..If you are a serious offroader I would suggest coilovers but that's definitely more money. The shackles will simply give you some lift in the rear. 1-3 inches depending on the size.
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  12. Feb 8, 2019 at 10:08 AM
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    @Jared378 All of my lift parts have been on for 5 years with no issues.
     
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  13. Feb 8, 2019 at 10:11 AM
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    Jared378 With OE Spindles and crossmember location you have a limitation of about 3.5" while still allowing the front suspension to fully cycle. By using a 3" leveling spacer you're pushing the assembly down (Pro Comp SS) 1.50"-1.75" and out of the center line of stroke. This doesn't allow much down travel and will notice your ride quality is famous leveling kit quality. Being 4wd CV angles need to be correct or will have trouble from the start, We correct 4" lift kits more often than not, guys install them and with the truck on the alignment rack they can pull spec but as soon as the truck is on the road and in motion the geometry goes out the window. My Recommendation is to save up and buy a Zone 5" kit, they are a great foundation to start with and use the same knuckle/crossmember as the 7" kits.. We build a full upgrade kit and can easily add additional lift down the road too if needed. Hope this helps.

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  14. Feb 8, 2019 at 10:13 AM
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    Those are 6 inch lift shocks. Used with stock springs on a 6 inch drop bracket lift.

    They would be used in place of those god awful 6 inch coilover spacer bricks that is included with base model kits.

    Not applicable to your ride. The short answer is, there is no way to get more lift for $800. You’re already pushing the limits on cranking the front
     
  17. Feb 9, 2019 at 5:03 AM
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    Where are you rubbing? Sounds like the tires are rubbing Most likely the body mount or bumper plastics. You should be able to tell. Can fix that for free first. Then decide if you need to change the lift.
     
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    I was just going to ask where the rubbing is.

    CMC might solve this issue all together.
     
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    What preload spacer are you using? Can a preload spacer be used without using a leveling spacer? Are there more than one good option in regards to different preload spacers?

    From what I read it might be good to buy bumpstop extensions for off-road use. I saw a recommendation on these:
     
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    I’m rubbing on the frame itself along the very corner edge (south side of the tire).

    What is CMC?
     
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  24. Feb 10, 2019 at 5:56 AM
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    The preload spacer I'm using came with the ProComp 6 inch stage one lift. Yes you can use a preload spacer without a leveling spacer. To me ? A spacer is a spacer, doesn't matter what brand.. Go to youtube and search 88rotors to see what Chris is talking about..Although with a 6 inch and 35's it should only be slightly rubbing in front of the drivers tire in full reverse. An easy fix with a heat gun on the plastic..
     
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    It's body mount chop. BMC. get a grind out and cut where you're rubbing.
     
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    Can I utilize the height adjustable shock and eliminate the leveling spacer while adding shims to achieve +1” additional height? In other words, 2.5” extended shock in conjunction with shim(s). Would it be 1 or 2 shims to achieve the additional 1”?
     
  28. Feb 10, 2019 at 6:29 AM
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    My first question is: What is your goal?

    More lift for good looks?

    Stop the rub?

    Two very different answers to those. Once we know what you’re trying to accomplish, we can help make suggestions about how to get there. :thumbsup:
     
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    For good looks- yes. But I don’t want to compromise off-roaring too drastically.

    I don’t think the people above understand where exactly I’m rubbing at. I’m thinking by lifting my vehicle an extra .5-1” will fix the rubbing problem on the frame.
     
  30. Feb 10, 2019 at 6:39 AM
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    Where I’m rubbing at. Note: I have a 1.25” wheel spacer which is necessary to clear the upper control arm.

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