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Rear axle seals/bearings.

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by bmf4069, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. Jul 6, 2020 at 5:36 PM
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    Professional Hand Model

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    Some more reference pics from Pass Seal Replace Job. Top pic shows the original press spacings from Toyota Factory in 2002 Manufacture. Bottom pic is the ‘grease test’ after new seal was installed and axle put in and turned to create and impression.

    NOTE: New Toy factory axle seal has a new design according to some readings. The seal has a wire spring incorporated into the lip. Not pictured.

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  2. Jul 6, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    So I'm over the aforementioned 500 mile mark, and I don't have the ABS sensor.

    So for me to test leaky-ness I would need to pull drums, shoes, etc?
     
  3. Jul 6, 2020 at 6:08 PM
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    Check here first. Sounds like no other way for non-ABS. Just pull the drum off and look where the arrow is and feel for oil.

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    I'll do that on my next weekend off.

    That will let me paint my drums too.
     
  5. Jul 6, 2020 at 9:27 PM
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    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    You can also keep an eye on the backing plates.

    I didn't get pics of the finished press, or do a grease test. They finished much higher on the axle though, so I'm hoping all is good. Time will tell.

    Anybody got any insight on the amount of brake dust? That wheel and drum were pretty hot and I had to rubber mallet the wheel to get it off so I'm assuming the brakes were way too tight, even though Toyota justed them.

    Or any ideas on the shininess of the oil and streaks on the abs sensors?
     
  6. Jul 6, 2020 at 10:24 PM
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    With that much dust and a hot wheel/drum I'm thinking that the brakes were adjusted too tightly.

    I'm hoping I don't have to do this job with mine. But with a machine shop wanting $250 to do the press work, I'd rather bite the pillow and just buy the HF press and the bearing tool from e-bay. After doing the job I can flip the press on craigslist. I'm sure I'll take a haircut on it - probably 50 bucks or so - but I'm still ahead, even after buying the bearing tool. And I have the comfort of knowing that it was done properly.

    Thanks for all the pics, this thread is very helpful.
     
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  7. Jul 7, 2020 at 2:15 AM
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    Great pics @Professional Hand Model

    I'd add a couple things that I learned from doing this job:

    1) I prefer the Sharpie test -- not because it's more accurate, but because it's easier to see. With a Sharpie, draw a couple of lines across the surface of the bearing race. Then when you install the axle and spin it, the seal lip rubs off a nice clean, thin break in the lines.

    2) I wouldn't reuse the inner race. You don't want a new seal running in the groove the old seal made. Ideally, you'd replace that inner race with a new one. If you don't have a new race though, the second best option would be to swap the inner and outer races. Look how nice and clean the outer race is compared to the inner. And reusing the inner race on the outer position is not a big deal as that seal is really just a dust/water cap to keep the inside area clean -- so the seal isn't as critical as the inner that's containing the gear oil in the axle.
     
  8. Jul 7, 2020 at 6:01 AM
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    Good info. I had posed the old wear groove question to @empty_lord a few months back and he said that rubber wouldn’t wear into the metal and shouldn’t be problematic to reuse the old race. Reason I questioned was because I had read elsewhere as you stated about the groove.

    This seal replace was a cheap learning experience for me at $15 and a pre-game for doing possible bearing replace.

    These are my third oil seals on the rear axle. Most likely I’ll be replacing this pass side wheel bearing (it had some inner play but no noise) in the near future. Just need time to find a tech with at least triple digit IQ and some common sense that can do the work. I don’t want to buy a press and ship @bmf4069 bearing press tool down to St. Bart. Might end up at another stealer.
     
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  9. Jul 7, 2020 at 10:14 AM
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    I put the new seals in the first time I did this, and given the amount of fluid everywhere, I'd say they weren't even touching. I did lube em before putting the axle in though. They're about 1/4" deeper than before.
     
  10. Oct 17, 2020 at 5:52 PM
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    Very informative thread. I did one of these on my Dads 1st gen. The drivers side bearing was shot with 220,000+ miles. His is a 2001 sr5 without ABS, which made it easier. But, I did run into a issue where the bearing retainer wouldn’t press on far enough to allow the retainer clip to seat in the groove. I was using a 12ton press at work. After I was sure it wasn’t going to budge the final 0.5mm I needed - I sanded down the clip slightly. Not sure what happened. I used a Beck/Arnley kit and didn’t compare parts first. Maybe the new bearing was slightly wider? Any thoughts?
     
  11. Oct 17, 2020 at 10:56 PM
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    Should all just bottom out and ring snap in.. maybe a bad kit? I’ve only ever used Toyota parts for these
     
  12. Oct 18, 2020 at 11:59 AM
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    @empty_lord I should have mic’d the bearings first! Bought the BA kit (051-4271) from Advance. Made in China. Wonder if OEM bearing is still made in Japan?
     
  13. Oct 18, 2020 at 12:03 PM
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    Should be. Mine was
     
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