YET ANOTHER Million Mile Tundra!!

Suddenly the cam tower leak takes a dramatic step back... Um... Now what do complain about? Lol

 

If you had a 1 gallon tank then yeah. I like how no one even noticed and just accepted that you would spend $3 million on gas on a $40 fillup. 20 gallon tank at 16 mpg its more like 3000 fillups. that is $120,000 in fuel.

 

Yeah the 7.3s were made by International

 

I'm also betting this dude used OE replacement parts. It's worth the work and cost folks.

 

When I read this about the 3rd one listed, I stopped reading. If you have replaced the original engine, then what are we talking about that lasted 1 million miles? The passenger seat?

 

My bad guys. its a 4.7. Still cool nonetheless

 

Cummins makes good engines. its just that the engine is surrounded by Chrysler junk, and gremilins thats what makes them unreliable.

didnt the old 5.4s have issues with the timing chains, and spark plugs/spark plug threads not being long enough, and the torque specs on the SPs being wrong? Or was the 5.4s on the 250s better than the 150s?

 

I'm glad the 5.0s in the newer f150s are much better

 

I had the 5.0 engine replaced in my 2012 F150 at 60,000 miles due to deformed block, I traded that one off shortly after the block replacement and bought a 2014. The 2014 5.0 started showing the same symptoms of the block issue at 97,000 miles. I didn't waste any time getting it fixed and just traded it on my Tundra. My experience was the opposite of your friends........the rest of the trucks were flawless, just engine problems.

This will be the 2nd Tundra to hit 1 million that was serviced at my dealership. My area being mostly oilfield, a lot of these guys run "hotshot" in these trucks.......smaller items that wouldn't make sense to load on a tractor trailer and that is needed quickly are shipped through these guys so they rack up a lot of miles.

 

May want to give the Japanese some credit too....

 

Just an FYI, Ford is recalling 874k F trucks. You might want to give him a heads-up.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/21/for...-trucks-in-north-america-for-fire-risks-.html

 

Lol. You're in for a surprise .

 

I stand corrected on my comment. But, I wouldn't buy any of the big 3 piles of shit, even if they could guarantee me, that I would get a million miles out of it.

 

Plenty of big 3 vehicles have hit the million mile mark. I know of some that are gasoline engines also.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see the previous post. Repeat - but still, the statement stands.

 

Cool deal man.

 

I Will chime in I have a 96 12 v Cummins that I won’t sell off for my big runs with 984k on it that having been said the truck is on its second rear end and front axel thrill trans and second transfer case. killed a few of the big three trucks 2005 f250 diesel made it to 279k sent to auction, 2 2009 Ram 2500 diesels one to 154k injectors stuck took out motor an the second one made it 374k I traded it in on a 2013 f150 eco boost Truck was sporty but a total pile constant turbo issues. My mechanic recommended a tundra Did some research bought a 15 cm pro loved it. It went 75k in 18 months no problems. I just picked up a brand new 18 cm which I am sure will be great 2.

 

A couple of noteworthy stories in there ^^^.

 

Unfortunately false.

Also the crown vic has done it too.

Dude almost made it to 1.3M miles.

http://www.millionmilevan.com

 

Lol, are you really saving that much more money by driving a Tundra?

Repairs are probably a bit less, but you're easily paying as much for fuel, if not more, compared to the 04 Cummins.

 

Yup, its all a wash in then end. lol

 

Toyota has to employ pretty much all the same emissions strategies in Australia and Europe as what is enforced over here (DPF, EGR, though I don't think their global 4x4's use SCR yet). I've heard of a few emissions-related complaints and issues, but overall their overseas diesel trucks seem pretty reliable, even with all that complexity.

If they could just introduce their 4.5l v8 diesel to the Tundra and make it emissions compliant, or better yet, get a deal going with Cummins, the Tundra would be the perfect truck: solid/reliable chassis powered by a good torquey and somewhat less thirsty engine. I greatly admire that 5.7l iForce v8, but the fuel consumption is a big drawback, especially as you modify the vehicle.

I'm totally fine with the bare bones and dated interior. I'm fine with the C-channel frame and the fact that the chassis has seen little change over the last 10 years (why mess with a good thing). If Toyota could just find a way to improve the fuel efficiency, even slightly, I think the Tundra will continue to sell well. People who want fancy interiors, car-like rides and self-parking junk can go buy their Ford's and Chevy's.

 

Yeah, I hear ya. I never said I hated the interior. I liked the layout and design. I just hated Entune. It was slow, clunky, and didnt offer much in the way of integration. Also, Toyota's navigation is atrocious. Other than that and the gas mileage, it's great.

Although, that is something else Toyota really needs to fix. I had a 2wd Limited Crew Max and getting 17mpg on the highway was HARD to get. That, is pretty terrible, regardless. I get that trucks get bad mileage. I probably drive less than most everyone here on a regular basis but it still isnt an excuse.

Other than that, great trucks.

 

Comparing new to new, I obviously agree that a 3/4 ton diesel is going to cost more to purchase than a Tundra. You can find some moderately used +2013 model year diesel 3/4 tons for ~$32k, which isn't that much more expensive than a similarly used Tundra.

Engine repairs don't really scare me, at least for the newer diesels, because I think all 3 (Ford, GM, Ram) have been at this long enough to know how to produce a reliable and long-lasting diesel engine (or they outsource to companies that have that know-how). Yes, a set of injectors can cost quite a bit. But chances are if you change your fuel filter at the recommended intervals, you won't have to deal with that for the first 350k-450k miles...plenty of highway haulers getting mileage well beyond that, and more often they're doing overhauls on the truck chassis before they're doing anything to the engine.

Honestly, I'm less concerned with the diesel engine's longevity, and more concerned with the built quality and/or poor design issues that are still inherent to some of the domestic brands, as you point out. Though, they still need to figure out the DPF; there are worst case scenarios where you might have to drive on the highway to facilitate a full DPF regeneration....you can't exactly do that if you're driving down a technical 4x4 road. I haven't heard of that being a common issue with the overseas diesel trucks Toyota makes, which is why I'd be eager to see them at least introduce an optional diesel engine into their North American 4x4's.

 

lol, no way.

972k miles at 12mpg is ~81k gallons of fuel

81k gallons over 38 gal tanks is ~2133 tanks

 

I can't speak for the newer Powerstroke or Duramax engines, but the rated b50 life for the 6.7l Cummins is ~350k miles. Plenty of owners who report getting that much, or more, out of those engines with just basic maintenance. Chassis components seem to go before the engine does. And for long haul, heavy duty work, that inline 6 seems to be the preferred engine...I see more of them out on the highway hauling and working than any of the other two.

I think injector issues used to be a common failure point because the technology was new and a lot of OEM's were only putting 1 fuel filter into their designs. Most of the OEM's seem to rely on two fuel filters, and fuel quality is generally pretty good in North America.

But I do agree that owning a diesel can get expensive if things start to fail....I guess its debatable how likely those failures are.

That's the tradeoff we're facing: you can probably get 1 million miles out of a v8 gasoline truck engine (assuming its a good design) but your fuel efficiency will suck; or you can get 1 million miles out of a v8 or inline 6 diesel truck engine, but you're going to pay a bit more in maintenance and upkeep. I wouldn't mind paying the extra in upkeep, I'd just like to see an OEM really make sure those emissions systems are foolproof before I put down all that money. I'd put my faith in a Toyota design before any other OEM...I still get the vibe that some of the other OEM's are warranty-only vehicles.