Wining power steering. Update. Adios Toyota!

I have been doing some digging and the Bronco doesn't seem to have many negative reviews. I realize cars have lots of moving parts and things fail. But a steering rack? At 50K miles. The engineering doesn't seem to be real solid there and that type of power steering system is as old as I am. Not real complicated. For sure a manufacturing defect that Toyota should own up to. Truck is fixed and my wallet is $6,000 dollars lighter. Not sure I'll ever be able to get the bad taste out of my mouth from Toyota?

 

You're taking a one off situation to kill your feeling about Toyota? If there were rashes of steering rack failures and Toyota is doing nothing about it, I get it. But you have an anomaly and you're ready to write off Toyota because a mechanical part failed and you believe Toyota should pay for it even though it's not covered under warranty. I'd be pissed too but shit happens. What if it was at 100k miles? Would you let it go then?

Everyone on here is telling you the same thing.

You do you and go buy the Ford and I hope you enjoy it and get many trouble free miles. But set yourself some realistic expectations though.

 

It's paid off. Spend $5k, or $3k, and stay in it. OR trade it in on a new ride and start making payments again. Pretty easy decision.

 

New broncos have a reputation for weak tie rods and has/had a huge issue with squeaking tops. It has more complaints logged with NHTSA than the 2022 Tundra and about twice as many as a 2.5 gen Tundra.

 

Have you tried flushing the system? Sometimes helps, the new Jeep wrangles with electric powertrains are starting to overheat due to the ICE side not being utilized enough. Sometimes lower mileage vehicles suffer maintenance wise as most fluids are probably not designed to sit still for long periods of times. You may need to cycle some of that fluid out and replace it with fresh fluid. If you're not going by mileage, you should be going by months or seasons as defined by the maintenance manual. I mean there is a reason they add a timeframe, I don't believe timeframes are there just to be there, or to fill up empty space.. Just my .02 cents.

 

I’ve got a 2022 loaded RAM crew cab diesel dually that my granddaughters use to haul their horses around to barrel racing events (they think they’re rodeo stars). It’s been in the shop a lot for work that has been covered by warrantee. If this keeps up I’ll basically have a new truck due to all the parts that are being replaced. I sat down with paper & pen & added up all the trucks we’ve had at the ranch for the past 40 years (68 in total of all makes) & the 2019 Tundra I have now is the best one. I must say, however, there’s still a 1973 Ford 3/4 ton 4x4 that seems to be bullet proof that we still use almost every day.

 

I literally thought this was a joke.

Where did you do your digging? The Ford website?

Literally 2 minutes of searching revealed some pretty horrific reliability and quality issues...

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Most Common Problems
Owners of the 2022 Ford Bronco have numerous complaints about 12 components or systems in the SUV. A total of 36 complaints are listed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) under the Bronco and another 20 under the Bronco Sport. Of these, 24 are engine problems, 22 of which are also regarded as powertrain issues. There are a total of 17 brake-related complaints, 4 of which were submitted by Bronco Sport owners.

The alarming fact is that many serious problems have emerged in vehicles that have less than 100 miles on the clock.

Electrical system problems also feature, although more than half of these are also listed as brake issues. Other components and systems that have attracted complaints are airbags, exterior lighting, forward collision avoidance, the fuel/propulsion system, seat belts, structure, vehicle speed control, and visibility/wiper.

Safety concerns include seat belt buckles not engaging with the latch plate. There is also a complaint that the bolts securing the airbag case were cut/filed down to secure the case in place. Incredibly, the dealer’s comment about the latter complaint was, “You should be happy that you got your order! Don’t worry about an imperfection!”

Additionally, there is a recall due to a child safety lock malfunction. This increases the risk of injury to a child in the SUV.

 

Its not a one off situation. And wasn't a small bill. I have owned cars that cost less than $6,000. There is a certain batch of Tundra's with this exact same issue. I just happen to have one that doesn't fall into the correct batch of serial numbers but, it's the same issue. A part in the rack fails and sends metal shavings through the system causing it to self destruct.

Got back in the truck this afternoon and noticed I don't have 50k on it. It's at 47k and change. I never expected them to pay for it. They should though. A little good will would have gone a long way with me. Knock $1,000 off or what ever and try to keep a customer that has owned 4 Toyotas and one Lexus. Weather I keep this truck or not Toyota won't make my car shopping list again.

I've owned somewhere around 20-25 cars in my life. None have had a failure like this prior to 50k miles. I realize everyone here is a Toyota fan like I was a few days ago. I guess that's the end of the story.

 

Was NHTSA (or whoever the government arm that forces recalls is) involved with the original recall, or was it a voluntary recall from Toyota? If NHTSA was involved (wouldn't steering failure be something they'd be interested in?) perhaps see if you can log a complaint there noting the similarity to the previous recall. Maybe you can get some traction there? If not, perhaps at least you could be a pain in Toyota's ass and exact a little revenge before you leave.

 

Absolutely! I have owned dozens of vehicles since 1985. I have owned nearly all of them. My best was a 2019 4Runner. Worst was a `96 Civvic. 2nd worst was a 1987 Jeep Wrangler Islander Edition. But I have had many vehicles that were trouble-free and reliable. My 2001 Ram 1500 was garbage new off the lot with bad steering and check engine light they couldn't resolve. My 2014 Ram 1500 bought new was excellent. No issues or rattles until I sold it 3 years later.

However, it is all about averages and odds these days. If you buy a Ford, Chevy, or Ram pickup/SUV, the you have roughly 5 to 1 odds of it being trouble free and reliable. Buying a Toyota means you stand a much better chance of getting a trouble-free and reliable vehicle.

The OP lost the bet.

But by then betting on a vehicle with even worse odds, he is likely to lose again, and much bigger.