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Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by jr1016, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. Aug 17, 2020 at 12:35 PM
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    TundraLaw

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    Also, as far as reliability goes-- Toyota's are reliable because they never update their platform. Things don't go wrong when you don't innovate.
     
  2. Aug 17, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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    Ha, they did innovate. They basically changed the whole truck market when the tundra came out. They just make minor improvements over time after they make a big change.
     
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    GODZILLA Hail to the King, Baby.

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    I love the way it looks, and it even sounds pretty good, but I don't think I would trust a BMW engine as my sole means of transportation. Now, as a second car, I am down.
     
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    And Ram 1500 only gets 50% better fuel economy than the Tundra trucks. Of course I could add a four 5-gallon jerry cans mounted to the sides of the Tundra bed to get the same driving range. I had to do that with my 1954 Willys so the concept is not new.
     
  5. Aug 17, 2020 at 4:13 PM
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    Cpl_Punishment Young men never die.

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    I'm getting 18 mpg combined. What's your problem?
     
  6. Aug 17, 2020 at 4:23 PM
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    Function before sparkle.
    This was my truck for 15 years:

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    Family needs changed and I needed to go up in size.

    I drove every truck (fall of 2018). Almost bought a Ram. But saved the Tundra for last. Got into the truck and it was basically a new, bigger version of my Tacoma. Felt exactly right. Zero question - it was the right truck.

    My wife said she knew I would buy a Tundra before we started. She’s a smart gal.

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  7. Aug 17, 2020 at 4:46 PM
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    Seafury Kickin names, and takin ass!

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    Gross.

    As a long time Toyota and real Supra fan, don't do it.
    The new supra wannabe is an ugly BMW z3 German pos nightmare.

    Almost entirely German parts, assembly, and engineering. Toyota stole some BMW engineers because they got stupid wanting to no longer make boring cars. Instead now they are going to make stupid German pos cars it seems.

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  8. Aug 17, 2020 at 4:48 PM
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    Seafury Kickin names, and takin ass!

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    Don't throw away a great truck for a pos German BMW z3 clone.

    Unless you are going after a real vintage Supra. You will regret it. Toyota screwed the pooch with this wannabe supra BMW z3 shit show.

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/toyota/supra/2020/reliability
     
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  9. Aug 17, 2020 at 4:57 PM
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    GODZILLA Hail to the King, Baby.

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  10. Aug 17, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    Seafury Kickin names, and takin ass!

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    Yes your right. It's parts are straight out of the z4 bin, but the z4 came from the z3 which was first so I call it by its heritage.

    Either way the car has many issues and is a confused pos, save your money if your smart and get something else.

    Or do what you want with your money.
    Just don't say you all weren't warned lol.
     
  11. Aug 17, 2020 at 5:20 PM
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    Just like everyone else, reliability and resale value. I just purchased my 2020 Tundra TRD Sport (I Hate Chrome) / SR5 Upgrade package. I test drove all versions of the big 3 and I even test drove the heavy duty versions. All of the trucks I test drove rode like ass, even the Ram 1500, unless you spend the extra $$$ for the air ride. After test driving everything with my wife, i told my wife forget it we are keeping the Tacoma 2013 w/64K and mod'ed to the hills and it rode better than any of the others I test drove. My wife then said to me "I convinced you to by the Tacoma, now I will convince you to by the Tundra" I said the tundra gets crappy MPG and doesn't tow what I want it to. She said do your homework and we will go look at a Tundra. Come to find out, the Tundra actually tows more for the money than the other 3. I researched and found that in order to get a good ride and the max tow packages that the big 3 offers, you need to purchase a specific model and pay HUGE. everything i found was over 55K for a max tow package with a thier largest fuel tank. Payload is a different story i get it. Also the Tundra has the larges fuel tank at 38 gallons. It may not have all of the bells and whistles and fancy do-dads that the big 3 has but that just means nothing is going to break. I like simplicity, so the Tundra was really perfect and rode incredibly smooth. so in a nutshell
    1. RELIABILITY
    2. RESALE VALUE - 23k for my Tacoma trade in value
    3. Price for what i wanted for the Tundra before trade in
    4. towing capability
    5. fuel capacity
    6. interior simplicity
    7. Smoothest ride

    I really don't think I will ever own any other brand truck.

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  12. Aug 17, 2020 at 6:38 PM
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    Absolute reliability! I have owned my 2013 since new and it's never been to the shop due to a breakdown.
     
  13. Aug 17, 2020 at 6:57 PM
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    Forgot to mention....who wants to have to be forced to wear a pair of these? :rofl:

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  14. Aug 17, 2020 at 8:31 PM
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    My wife tried to talk me into a new Supra instead of the Tundra. The engineer in me won out - function over form. But I was VERY tempted when I sat in the Supra in the dealership. I was totally unaware of the German origins of the new Supra. When I was a (poor) young man, the '88 Supra was my dream car. Its styling still puts new cars to shame. And my neighbor just inherited a spotless white one from his dad - with <5k miles on it! I told him if he ever wanted to sell it just walk across the cul de sac! I would even remove it from his garage for him!
     
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    SUSPENSION: Bilstein 6112 coilover (1.9") w/ Powder Coated Springs and Spring Perch (TRD Red), JBA Upper Control Arms, Bilstein 5160's w/Billet Aluminium Reservoir Brackets, +2 Coachbuilder Shackles, Diff Drop Kit, Carrier Bearing Drop Kit, Brakeline Extensions, ABS Extension, Poly Bushings for Leafs, Coachbuilder Shims (2 Each Side), Coachbuilder Bumpstop Extensions, TRD Rear Sway Bar, TRD Front Sway Bar, Air Lift 5000 airbags w jounce bumpers, Daystar Airbag Cradles WHEELS AND TIRES: BF Goodrich KO2's 275/70/r18, BORA wheel spacers 1.25", TRD Wheel Caps,TRD Valve Stem Caps, Spare Tire Lock PERFORMANCE: Bullydog GT Tuner(Performance Tune), TRD Intake, TRD Dual Exhaust (with Modified Exhaust Hangers for Levelling Tail Pipe),TRD Brake Pads, TRD Oil Cap (US), TRD Radiator Cap, TRD Oil Filter, Optima Yellow Top Battery,GP Battery Distribution Blocks, StopTech Slotted Cryo Treated Rotors, Goodridge G-Stop Steel Braided Brake Line Kit PROTECTION: PNP Engineering Type 4 Rock Sliders (With Full Dimple Plate) ,ADD Stealth Fighter Rear Bumper w Red/Blk Shackles and Custom Stomp Pad, TRD Skid Plate with ReadyLift Spacer Kit, Victory 4x4 LCA Skid Plates, JOMAX ABS Sensor Armor, Rear Diff Breather Mod, ARK splash guards INTERIOR: Husky Liners X-Act (Front and Full Coverage Rear and Front Weather Beater Trans Hump), Interior LED Bulbs, WheelSkins Genuine Leather Steering Wheel Cover(EuroPerf), Clazzio Genuine Leather Seat Covers(BLK/DRK GRYwith custom stitching and embroidered headrests), Clazzio Seat Heaters (Front and Rear), Entune Startup Screen MOD, Entune Off Screen Mod, Tinted Windows with Windshield Visor, AJT Key Fobs,Eagle Claws Floor Mat Clips, Bodyglove Visor Organizer,Custom Door Cup Inserts, Glass Break Sensor,AJT Radio Knobs, Custom Dior Cup Inserts EXTERIOR: Full Debadge, LED Brake Light Bulbs, LED Rear Turns, LED Reverse, LED Plate Lights, LED Cargo Lights, LED Third Brake Lights, LED Front Marker Lights, LED Fog Light Bulbs, Lamin-X Fog Light Covers (Amber),2018 OEM LED Headlights, iHacker harness, VLED Universal Puddle Lights, VLED Interior Footwell Lighting (Front and Rear),VLED Extreme Amber Fornt Turns, NSV Knight Rider Light bar, Baja Designs Sport Squadron Pods in Rear Bumper (Driving/wide), Painted Red Tow-hooks, Bed Rail System, Blind Spot Mirrors, Hitch-safe, Tail-gate lock, EAG Raptor Grille, Custom Grille Badge,Full Vinyl Wrap (Matte Black/Matte Pine Green Mettalic), Charvonia Designs Tie Bed Tie-Downs, Bull Ring Bed Rail Anchors, Line-X, Tundra Bed Mat, Bakflip F1 Bed Cover SOUND: Noico 80Mil Sound Deadening and Noico 170 Mil Thermal Insulation (All 4 Doors, Roof, Floors, Rear Panel, Dash). Hertz Uno K170's Component Speakers (Front Doors with Upgraded Sail Panels), Hertz Uno K170 Coaxial Speakers (Rear Doors), JBL C1-075ct Tweeters (Total 4) in Side Dash and Center Speaker, JBL Stadium 5 Amp w/Remote Bass Adjustment Knob and Amp Rack, 12" Infinity Reference Subwoofer in Custom Enclosure w/ “TUNDRA” Logo, Fast Rings Foam Speaker Rings System(4 Doors), Fix 86 DSP
    With shoes as ugly as the truck it was an easy choice
     
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    Those are road side assistance shoes... to walk home in when your Ford breaks down.
     
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    When I was shopping for a truck in 2010, my favorite (appearance wise) was the GMC 1500. After discovering GM refused to build their 1/2 ton crew cab with anything but a Ridgeline sized bed, I forgot about 'em. Had 2 Dodges (lesson learned) Testdrove a really sharp F-150 but Ford's 5.4 V8 didn't feel any better than my 4.7 in my 06 Tundra. I'm fine without all the nannies that the new Tundra's offer.I just added the features on my SR5 that I wanted over the years. What I didn't have to add were, Driver's Side Grab Handle, Dual Glove Boxes,Dual HVAC Controls, Amber Flashers/Signals, Lights in Door Bottoms, Lighted Ignition Ring,Sliding Console and External Trans Cooler.
     
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    So, after we bought our house in 2016, I started doing research on a newer vehicle and decided a first gen Tundra was perfect for us. Found ours on a lot with 116,000+ miles on it for just under $12,000 and scooped it up. IMG_20150908_091327669_HDR.jpg IMG_20200708_111615950.jpg
     
  19. Aug 18, 2020 at 4:14 AM
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    Another thing not mentioned often is the capability and reliability of all Toyota off road vehicles around the world. Africa and south east Asia and the Middle East are much harsher environments than the US. I see more Hilux trucks and other Toyota models than anything. Central America is the same way. Toyota owns Costa Rica and surrounding countries. Australia is the same way. So as a brand, Toyota knows exactly what they are doing worldwide reliability wise. If you forgot, watch the top gear episode about killing a Hilux. It is absurd. The Tundra is from the same family. Certain individuals who actually research things like everyone on this forum, eventually see the light and get a Tundra or Tacoma.
     
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    Ah, that is a general public misconception. Toyota's way is continued improvement. The reason for their reliability is because of continued effort and engineering the existing features until perfection.

    Like training martial arts, they teach you to punch the same punch, kick the same kick, and grapple the same grapple for years. Anyone can punch, kick, or grapple, but not anyone can be the master.

    I think Toyota is very up to date. They just spend engineering resources in refining and tuning. They have some very cutting edge innovations in development but only releases it when it is ready.

    Toyota reminds me of Apple, they are not the first to come out for features, but when they do, it just works... :amen:
     
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    You had me until you compared them to apple.
     
  22. Aug 19, 2020 at 10:17 AM
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    We both know thats BS. Toyota has not done a single update or progression of refining and tuning on the engine, transmission (besides removing the trans cooler for 19-20) , or head unit (2014-2019). Toyota is about maximizing profit, and they know they can keep selling the same old dog.
     
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    I will give you that Toyota is slow to update, but the majority of their buyers are after reliability as the highest priority. Look at the 4Runner for example. It has increased in sales every model year with the same lack of updates. As a business, it would be unwise to mess with a formula that is increasing sales year after year. Yes, that maximizes profit, but if people are still lining up to buy it, why would you risk upsetting that by changing things?
     
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    As far as the powertrain goes, why would they? What do the others have besides marginally better MPG’s and reliability problems?

    The 5.7 is damn near 15 yrs old and still in the ball park for horsepower, torque, towing capacity and its dead nuts reliable.

    I’d agree on the interior. Its behind, but is it really that far behind chevy or ford? Neither one blows me away, especially the chevy which I can argue I like the tundras interior more.

    To me, the big 3 simply put a bunch of irrelevant bullshit(to me) on paper and internet reviewers gawk over it(cause they want more trucks to review).

    I cant convey how much I couldnt give a shit less about auto start/stop, DFM’s, etorques, dozens of cameras and extra shit telling me im changing lanes.

    If all yota did was pump out a Ram’ish interior and put in a 10 speed for the next gen... they’d take $60k from me.
     
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    Fair enough. Save money and maximize profit. Don't we all :)


    What is it that is cutting edge technology from the other manufacturers?


    The current gen Tundra was reliable already when it came out in 2007, not sure the belief that it took 13 years to be reliable :monocle:
     
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