What have you done to your 1st gen Tundra today?

This is interesting...it uses 2010 4runner brake components as opposed to the SOS using 2005+ Sequoia rear brake components. I wonder which is better for this application.

 

Apologies if this is insulting question, but are your rear brakes adjusted correctly? When mine are loose it makes a huge difference in pedal travel.

 

@empty_lord Can you dumb this down for me I have an 01 without steering wheel radio controls and would love to add it. I have an aftermarket stereo so that part isn't a problem. If I grab a 4runner steering wheel how would I go about wiring it up to work? Also, does it matter which year 4runner? I was going to hit a junkyard and find a good condition nice leather steering wheel to fancify my truck

 

Not insulting at all. I believe the rear are dialed in now. They recently improved a bit when I adjusted the parking brake cable. I've felt the rear drums after driving and they are hot to the touch so I know they are being used.

 

You need to find an 03 sequoia steering wheel and air bag and clock spring. The. You have to run 3 wires for the radio controls. The 01 has a single stage airbag so the new new wheels won’t work.

 

5th gen T4R is practically the size of 1st gen Sequoia. I wouldn't be surprised if it weighed as much or even slightly more. Most 3rd gen Tacos weigh more than most 1st gen Tundras

Edit: Sequoia was 6400-6500lbs
4Runner is 6100-6300lbs

 

I do believe the 4runner setup is a little bigger. The front brakes on a a 4runner are bigger too. (The calipers will fit our truck, the rotors will not though)

as far as I know 16” wheels don’t fit 5th gen runners

 

I think you're looking a GVWs. Curb weights for both are lower, but they are similar, with the 4Runner (4,400-4,800) generally a few hundred pounds lighter than 1st gen Trees (5,000 to 5,300).

And similar story for our Tundras (4,800-5,0000) vs the newer Tacomas (4,000-4,500).

 

I dunno, my truck on the scales was 5400 lb with me in it. Stock and empty, 1/2 tank of gas.

 

Yeah I looked at the GVWR for the new T4R and 1st gen Sequoia. Maybe I remembered wrong about the Taco but I could've sworn I had looked up the curb weight

Edit: here's what I found a while back
3rd Gen Tacoma : 3,980 to 4,480 lbs
1st Gen Tundra : 3,935 to 5,020 lbs

 

Been hanging with Sensei for about a week deciding on proper handling of bearing ‘re-repair’. Sensei beatings sharpened me up.

Dropped the 2002 Tundra off at stealership for her 8am appt. this morning for proper bearing service on the rear drivers side. Recall that I had prior failed service done a few months ago at another shop and was refunded $ plus new high dolla MK Kashiyama brake pads to replace the soaked ones (still to be installed).

Stealer calls about 2 hours after she is opened up this morning and says we have a mess. They sent pics (below).

I call failed service shop (still haven’t cashed their refund check BTW) and sought a solution. Met some ‘resist!’ from owner. Used some ‘Himalayan Mind Jujitsu Technique’ on the owner. Took him about 10 minutes to un-twist out of the pretzel I put him into, but he finally succumbed to buying a new axle (old one was clearly destroyed) and new bearing kit for stealership to install (both to be delivered tomorrow).

Hack job to say the least. I swear I can do better work than most mechanics these days. Takes me a bit longer (no lift), but my stuff lasts and is fixed right the first time!

Glad I didn’t try to open this mess up in my driveway to correct it and made a good call by taking it to stealer. Should have trusted my instincts and went there in the first place.

Check out these crap work pics! So much wrong here.

 

That's terrible, but glad it's getting fixed and the old shop is making it right.

 

Indeed. I can't imagine going to a mechanic at this point in my life.

 

How the hell does one even manage to destroy the axle like that? Holy shit


Bet they forgot to remove the snap ring before the pressed the old shit apart

 

Yes and thank you. New NAPA kit (axle plus bearings,etc. is $300).

 

Mityvac arrived today. Here's to hoping this thing works as well as the reviews claim.

I'll knock out both vehicles Saturday. I'm really hoping that there is some air left in the lines and that the pedal feels better after this. If not, then I'll just accept the mushy pedal and move on.

 

Was reading the flurry of rear disc mod conversations a few pages back and got to thinking about how much more surface area the rear shoes have compared to the front pads.

Never measured the actual surface areas of each for hard comparison, but the rear shoes seem to have more total surface area on them. Am I missing something?

 

Maybe..? I just want disc brakes so I don't have to adjust them. My brakes actually seem to stop my pig fairly well even on 35s. Realistically I would just expect a more consistent stopping experience and ease of serviceability. I wouldn't be surprised if I get better feeling and performing brakes though because my drums probably aren't adjusted very well unless I've done it in 2 weeks.

 

Ever since I figured out my inner drum parking brake cables were not installed properly years ago, and therefore weren’t self adjusting my parking brake, its been a change for the better.

Both rear drums were like this.

 

The issue with drums relative to discs is not lack of surface area, it's poor heat/water dispersion...the two things that lead to inconsistent brake performance.

http://knowhow.napaonline.com/disc-vs-drum-brakes-pros-and-cons/

 

Ive only used mine on my road and mx bikes but always had good results. Makes brake bleeding so much easier. Thats a nice setup you picked up.

 

This is a confusing thread in that folks are discussing detailed information about the differential and dash lights.
Can the moderators split the discussion into two separate posts so readers can find pertinent searches more efficiently?

 

You really are confused because this whole thread covers ‘What Have You Done Today’ A-Z on our Tundras.

Maybe you can start a new thread and ask what you are looking to answer?

 

Its because they work so much worse than discs they need more surface area, even though the actual braking power of the rear is always much less than the front. On rear disc vehicles the rear pads are much smaller than the front and they have less pistons, one or two as opposed to two or four in the front.

 

I dont think its any sort of moderators responsibility to do that but I do agree that we should be better at creating new threads for detailed stuff.

There is a ton of useful information in this single thread and not everyone has the time to dig through 14,000 posts to find the goodies.

 

I love the roller coaster ride this thread provides. It keeps the mods plentiful and my wallet empty.

 

Does anyones bed stick out alittle on one side? I noticed awhile ago but I forgot to bring it up. It sticks out a little on my passenger side.

 

mines straight... but my bed also been off and moved around alot... its a few bolts to shift it around if it really bothers you.

 

Not that I can remember. I know the my 3rd gen starts off narrower than the cab.

 

Mityvacs are great. Just out of curiosity, what brake fluid are you using?