Vehicle gun storage

Leaving a firearm in a vehicle for long periods of time is DUMB. The only way to get that through some thick people’s skulls is to tell them they’re stupid straight to their faces and shame them for it.

A safe in your home and a safe in your vehicle are completely different. Not in the same Ballpark. Using the vehicle safe AS your home safe would be better than a safe in a vehicle.

 

Sir you are the only one talking about using a vehicle safe as a permanent place for storing a firearm. for the people whom have no other option but to leave their firearm at home or in their vehicle while at work, a vehicle safe storage unit is better than nothing. For those that say just sneak it in, try that at a federal building with metal detectors. Or other places of business with high security.

 

Not necessarily permanent. Multi-day/overnight I would say. I have no problem with short term storage!

 

dont know how secure this is compared to a cable pistol box. This is obviously a cheap copy of the locker down. You never know. It may be ok.

 

My hip. Shouldn't ever store a gun in your car. If someone wants it, they'll take it. Can't crack a box quick? Cool, just steal the whole truck.

 

That's a great gun! I have the same one!

 

I agree 100%

 

I just use a captured Green Mamba in my center console on top of my Hi Point I found in Juarez. That way when anyone opens my center console, SURPRISE! I also leave my kids sippy cups in there too to teach them to always be ready. My other weapons were lost in a boating accident during a hurricane.

 

Remember when all we had was a gun rack in the rear window? There would be 30 pickup trucks in the school parking lot (gasp) with rifles and shotguns in them. We even had a shooting team at school. Times have changed.......

 

I like this, and it's super cheap. I can have one for me and one for the wife.

I don't want to clog up my console; I've got other stuff in there.

I just need a safe place to put my gun when I have to go into the courthouse, etc.

 

I remember ... and I miss it ...

 

I’m young enough where guns were not allowed at school. A few years after I graduated and smartened up, I did indeed have a rifle rack in the back window of the Taco though!
I suppose I could get away with it now, but not really any reason to. The Kubota with a gunrack, now that might be in the works.

 

So true...

 

Exactly. Trying to rationalize dumb behavior (crap mobile storage) with smart behavior (home storage) is still dumb behavior. You can't fix stupid.

To minimize stupid behavior, by saying that your firearms can be stolen from your home too? Yes, you can train your self to defeat MOST gun safes today, within 5 seconds. It's all info right out in the internet open, videos online show you how to do it; crack open that $1300 unit you got at gander Mt in about 5 seconds.

It's not an argument. It's factual information/warning about how to GIVE UP your firearm to smart criminals, that's all. How many will post back up here: I "lost" my gun, it "left" my truck last night! Zero.

 

Yup!

Vehicle Safe:
Subpar build quality (thinner metal, crappy locks, no lock bars)

A thief can determine within 1 second if there’s someone in the car or not and if it’s safe to attack.

Anchored to or surrounded by plastic vehicle components or thin metal.

Literally attached to wheels. How convenient.

Limited security options, easily bypassed

Laws are far more forgiving to car thiefs.


Home Safe:

Decent build quality if you spend a bit extra. (Thick metal, fire rated, lock bars, good locks)

A thief assumes high risk entering a home. Occupancy isn’t known.

Anchored to concrete usually and in a corner to prevent most manual tool attacks. (Tool-attack rated safe)

Surrounded by walls in a structure that doesn’t move.

Safe security backed by cameras, alarms, motion sensors, etc.

Castle doctrine is more common to apply to household only. Breaking an entering, etc. carries a more significant punishment.


A thief has to have some balls to break into a house. Vehicles are easy.

 

Who's a GOOD BOY!?! Beautiful!

 

So to the original poster. Opinions are like A**holes Every body has one. Do your best to prevent theft and unauthorized use of your firearm while at home or vehicle. Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.

 

Amen all of my weapons combined don’t compete with my dog.

 

Missouri has the Castle Doctrine--for both home--and car.

Interesting thoughts all ...

Here's my one cent [not even saying it's worth two cents]:

• Some security is better than no security at all.
• Multiple levels of security are better still. [For example, anchoring the home safe and building around it.]
• I like dogs and technology as deterrents and to promote situational awareness.
• I like keeping a gun on me.
• I like keeping a gun on me in the house. [I wear an ankle holster in the house.]
• People are the greatest force multiplier, especially if they're smart and work together. [My wife and I in this case: she's smart, and I'm cooperative.]
• Live in a good neighborhood in the right area, if possible.
  
• Most of all, do good and pray often.

YMMV

 

The only problem I have with the “gun=self defense” theory is that it’s perpetuating violence. People who break into your house are doing it for money. They don’t want to hurt you they want money to pay for drugs and to get away Scott free. But if you have a gun then they’re gonna get a gun. Now you both are dangerous. And the person doing the B+E always had the edge. They’re wide awake and ready. They’ve been planning this. You, on the other hand are fast asleep in your Ninja Turtles boxer shorts and in no shape to be making life and death decisions. So you’re best bet is to wake up shouting and cussing. Call 911 loudly. And for god’s sake don’t go downstairs with a 9mm and your nunchucks to show off your new boxers. Whoever is in your house is either gonna split like there’s no tomorrow or they’ll holler back “Yo uncle Jimmy, it’s just me. My dad sent me over for coffee beans!” If they split then you get to show the cops footage from your game cam and everyone walks away uninjured.

I’m a hunter and a farmer and my experience tells me that people make mistakes, it’s in our Nature. We just do. A mistake with a baseball bat leads to an angry wife and a trip to the hardware store. But a mistake with a handgun buys you 10-15 upstate and no wife at all.

Just food for thought.

 

That's not a mistake, thats negligence.

 

Civilized people always want to outsource their self-defense problems.

The world isn't civilized.

P.S. No disrespect intended, @CMat. We all have to make choices.

 

Some food for thought for you.

I work inside of a prison. I know these types of criminals. Sure they mostly want your shit, but if you're in their way, or sometimes if they're just bored they'll have no issue with harming you and your family in ways you can't imagine.

"Accidentally" shooting a family member is no accident. There are 4 rules, one of them is proper target ID and backstop. Planning, training and having proper layers of security are key.

As for vehicle storage, I just keep one of my Glocks locked in the glovebox. I have insurance and it's convenient for me to have a backup pistol in the truck. I'll eventually get a dedicated lockbox for under the backseat and I'll keep it there with a rifle.

 

I apologize I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I just see enough people going out, buying some cheap handgun from Wally World and tossing it on the front seat and suddenly they think they’re hero’s. I just want everyone to think it ALL the way through so you’re still here when I have Truck questions. I see more people shooting themselves or getting shot by accident than people defending themselves. I’m not trying to start an argument I’m just saying, make sure you have a careful safety plan and remember that the second you think you’re “this won’t happen to me because I’m responsible”... it’s going to happen to you. Kk

 

I only say it because I know how it becomes routine and one day when you’re late from work and tired you do something dumb and... whoops... a month ago I watched a guy I’ve been hunting with for over 20 years toss his shotgun in the truck with one round in the chamber bird shot scattered all over the inside of that truck and both of us and the dogs all took a ricochet or ten. 20 years and not one single mistake.

 

What you are describing is also true of cars.

As you age, you realize, I can drive safely for years and years and then, one day, make a stupid driving error that you know not to make.

I've made a mistake like that on a lawnmower too.

Notice, I didn't quit driving or mowing my lawn.

Everything is a risk calculation. Logically, there is a risk to carrying a self-defense weapon and a risk not to carrying one.

Everybody has to do their own math.

I will say this: a lot of it comes down to psychology. Are you familiar with guns? Are you training? Do you discipline yourself to practice sound gun handling and shooting habits?

Everything is a habit. Good habits come from good training and good planning. And yes, life is unpredictable; there is always risk involved, always.

One thing is not disputable, however: you are responsible for you. That adage applies to everyone.

If someone is not psychologically prepared to deal with the consequences of a particular action, they shouldn't engage in the behavior.

I respect your point of view.

 

You okay, @CMat, you OK.

It's so refreshing to run into someone who holds to their own convictions, is capable of having a mature conversation, and still acts like a freaking human being.

Niiiice.