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Tundra engine recall - interesting news

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by katekebo, Jul 25, 2024.

  1. Jul 19, 2025 at 7:36 AM
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    sudobash

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    Block, Short Assembly - 11410-F9160 - MSRP $3,654.58

    So a short block assembly WITHOUT any labor to install it.
    Most short assembly builds also include heads, cams, front covers, turbos, etc.

    Total for a short block rebuild will be in the range of $22,000-$24,000 just in parts cost.

    Even if a dealer were able to get an FTS to agree to a Partial Engine Assembly - (i-FORCE - 19000-F4030 - MSRP $20,108.56, i-FORCE MAX - 19000-F4040 - MSRP $22,222,97) - the cost is still about the same from a parts perspective. Labor is where the costs differ greatly.

    The recall alone is going to cost them no less than $2 BILLION. Remember, they are also having to cover the cost of towing if needed, loaner cars and their depreciation, maintenance on loaner cars, etc. There are a number of costs that we simply don't see, nor would Toyota ever come out and say it. To think that each engine replacement is $5,000 is one of the most laughable things I've seen you or anyone else write in the last decade.

    For those who had a failure before the recall remedy was announced, it added up to about $3,000-$4,000/month in loaner car costs, not to mention the towing costs if they were out of state. The aforementioned former member had mentioned it was $10,000 worth of loaner car costs before Toyota ultimately bought his truck back. That was 3.5 months worth of loaner car costs to Toyota.

    You seem to read from very interesting places as they are not at all based in reality most of the time. I would suggest you actually study up on the part costs and labor costs involved in doing one of these.

    13.5 hrs x $180 (common shop rate) = $2,430 per recall engine replacement
    $2,430 x 102,898 (total with Lexus) = $250,042,140 LABOR COSTS
     
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  2. Jul 19, 2025 at 7:57 AM
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    How is my math "terrible"? I'm pretty sure $500 million divided by 100K equals $5K.

    Those are the numbers I've read from reputable sources, but I doubt anyone here knows what Toyota's actual costs are. Dealership invoices are entirely different, of course.
     
  3. Jul 19, 2025 at 8:02 AM
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    Fair enough, I stand corrected. I just recalled reading the $500 million figure thrown out when the recall was first announced.

    I knew you'd set the record straight. Thanks.

    I've never bought an extended warranty on any vehicle, but I'm sure glad I changed my ways on this Gen 3. Something tells me it was money well spent.
     
  4. Jul 19, 2025 at 8:14 AM
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    The sky is green.
    -Reputable source.

     
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  5. Jul 19, 2025 at 8:17 AM
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  6. Jul 19, 2025 at 8:45 AM
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    Need to post new material there. You’ve already posted that before! Lol no man, I don’t get triggered like some people on here. Never seen so much whining and shit talking over a truck someone doesn’t even own! Drive whatever the hell you want and be happy
     
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  7. Jul 19, 2025 at 8:55 AM
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    It’s gonna be ok. And we are :) year 2030 refresh calling my name, maybe. Fear not do I though when my warranty expires.

    Edit. A 2.5G will be better in every way when a 3G engine blows out of warranty. There ya go, new material :cool:
     
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  8. Jul 19, 2025 at 9:05 AM
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    Lol! At least that was new material. I’ll give you that. Agree to disagree!
     
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  9. Jul 19, 2025 at 9:09 AM
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    Right on!

     
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  10. Jul 19, 2025 at 9:38 AM
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    Exactly! And save the discussions for the forum threads discussing the recall and the defective motors… which is right here.

    New news: another 2025 ate a bearing as reported on Facebook. So, it’s a fact that Toyota hasn’t fixed this defect yet and there is no “safe build date” either. Toyota is still offering a 12 month, 12K miles warranty on short and long blocks while Ford is offering a 10 year 150K mile warranty on their defective motors. Also a fact: both short blocks and long blocks (crate motors used for the recall) have experienced the same failure for a second time. When Toyota steps up and offers a 10 year 150K warranty, you’ll know they’re confident they’ve actually fixed the problem. Until then, with the 12/12K warranty it’s all just Lipstick on a pig IMO.
     
  11. Jul 19, 2025 at 9:41 AM
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    Can you just have this pinned to the forum. Would save a lot of typing.

     
  12. Jul 19, 2025 at 11:15 AM
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    No kidding. The guy is like a parakeet repeating the same thing over and over ad nauseam.
     
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  13. Jul 19, 2025 at 12:36 PM
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    I’ll try to remember to issue a trigger warning in the future for you “keep my truck engine problems out your mouth” guys.
     
  14. Jul 19, 2025 at 1:27 PM
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    Are you seriously asking if I'm triggered by the love you have for your truck? Nothing about my post shows any level of aggravation or concern about the relationship you and your Tundra have.:der::der::der:
     
  15. Jul 19, 2025 at 1:40 PM
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    It’s ok. I understand if you are!

     
  16. Jul 19, 2025 at 1:47 PM
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    I am not out to ruin anyone's "experience" with their truck and I am glad your wind noise is getting fixed. Your posts about how much better your truck is and how Toyota will take care of everything a sounds like it came straight from a Toyota influencer. You want to know what Toyotas really like to deal with, then lookup this thread from Northerntundra's experience, from back in late 2022.
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/blown-engine.115124/#post-2962740
     

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