Touchy gas pedal

@V10Ace provided a link to it in post #23 above.

 

My real issue is my commute to work is a LOT of choppy roads (it's WI...it's inevitable) and with the touchy gas pedal and the off-road suspension, it's almost impossible to keep a constant/steady pressure on the pedal when I hit these areas (which probably make up 25% of my morning drive). It kicks in the traction control most of the time as well. Highways and regular roads are just fine, but there's streets around here that will always be like this, and I don't like having to gun it a little then just glide for a few hundred feet to avoid the jerking around lol

 

I purchased from Ebay, p/n #04000-044C for like $40. I would shop online, but your choice. I have found dealers somewhat competitive on some parts.

I cannot comment if new one would be different than your 2011. I was under the impression that the pedal issue affected the 07-09 models and some 2010's. Just haven't heard of too many complaints from 2011 and newer. Not sure when they actually started using the. new pedal, certainly conceivable that Toyota phased in the new pedal and used all the older ones. For $40-50 it may be worth trying if your pedal seems extra touchy or sensitive.

Before I knew about the new pedal I installed the Pedal Commander and dialed in an "Economy" mode which essentially did the same thing, smoothed out acceleration, It has more modes that you can change to with a button push if desired and is a bit more, around $280 now. Just another option, and easy install if you don't want to try the replacement pedal.

Good luck!

 

Are you maybe missing a number? I found this online for $29 (I'm assuming plus shipping), but they do have the part # you listed on Amazon for $45ish. Any pedals currently on Ebay are used and $75+

https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/oem...ta&Model=Tundra&Year=2011&Submodel=&Filter=()

 

Genuine Toyota (04000-0440C) Accelerator Pedal Assembly

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00OW341XS/ref=dp_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=all

Both listings have the 0440C on the end...

 

BUT! With that said...I found this on another forum. I'm going to have to get under there and take a close-up look at it tonight...see if it's cut down/shortened or possibly had a shim installed...or maybe I just need more than a couple of months to get more used to it

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Originally Posted by Big Shasta View Post
If you haven't gotten them shim installed, don't worry about it. The shim was a fix for the stuck accelerator problem that really wasn't a problem. When they installed the shim, the pedal would get VERY touchy. They did it on my 2008 and I returned the same day and told them it was unacceptable. It was so touchy that the bump entering a parking lot would about give everyone in the truck whiplash because your foot would bump the pedal. So they then ordered a whole new pedal. But would only do that if the person complained about the shim fix. With the new pedal, it was back to normal.

You don't need either one really. It was a fix for a non issue that satisfied the lawyers trying to go after Toyota.
Yep.

The shim wasn't a fix for the sensitivity, it was a fix to stop the "sticking", and inadvertently created the sensitivity.

To anyone wanting to buy a new pedal, don't... The pedal you buy is the same one that's in your truck, but without the shim. It takes less than 5 min to remove your pedal, take out the shim, and reinstall the pedal. The sensitivity will be gone. There's no need to buy another pedal."

 

Ebay purchase link not available any more.

P/n looks right, found this on Amazon.
Genuine Toyota (04000-0440C) Accelerator Pedal Assembly

Genuine Toyota (04000-0440C) Accelerator Pedal Assembly

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OW341XS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_46VSDb5YGKTDJ

 

Went back to "what have you done 2nd gen" thread, the info I used to order:

 

Prices are all over the place. At the time I grabbed my pedal, it was on Amazon for $45 with prime.

Found one for $27 plus shipping - https://toyotaparts.bochtoyotasouth.com/oem-parts/toyota-pedal-assembly-accelerate-040000440c

 

This is what I ordere . Hope it's the right one lol....

https://www.toyotapartsdeal.com/oem...SR5;6=6FC;7=CMAX;8=HTWCF;9=S;0=USK56L-PSTSGA)

 

Should be right.

 

https://www.tundras.com/posts/1444532

 

I did this in my ‘10 and it was an immediate fix. There is a *tiny* dead spot when I first start to accelerate, but it’s only noticeable when I’m looking for it, and it’s much better than the jerky throttle with the shim.

Seems like removing the shim is the free solution that does the same thing as buying a new $35 part. Also, If you don’t like it without the shim it would be just as simple to reinstall it.

 

I've tried turning off the VSC and it seems to keep the truck from thrusting forward over road imperfections on my typical route to work. I'm not sure (doubt it) that it's a good long-term solution, but it definitely feels more stable over those rough areas. The mpg, at least from the instant readout, doesn't seem to be impacted much, if at all (it still stinks!).

 

My 2011's accelerator exhibits the same "jackrabbit" starts as my '07 and '10 did. Did they shim the pedal on the 2011s too? Or does it have a redesigned pedal? I don't recall my 2014 behaving like the gen 2s.

 

I just put the pedal referenced above in my sons 2011 tundra and it made a big difference. The 2011 wasn’t as touchy as my older sons 2008, but this still helped. My 2016 didn’t need this.

 

My 07 has this issue, I'll be grabbing one of the new pedals. The stock pedal is great when you want instantaneous straight line acceleration, but when trying to creep over bumps, potholes etc., it can definitely be touchy!

 

For a long time I just thought the touchiness was by design and learned to live with it. It was fine most of the time but as people have mentioned going over a bump or trying to gently get on risers seemed unnecessarily challenging. And I didn’t realize it was just a result of the shim-fix change in pedal geometry. So I’ve been doing some upgrades and decided to address this issue. I installed the OEM replacement (781100C012). Could not be easier to replace. Drove in many different kinds of conditions over this last week and the improvement was immediately noticeable. It definitely makes the acceleration more predictable and immensely helps smooth out the off-road maneuvering. Recommended.

 

I like my '18 and don't have any problem driving it smoothly. My wife, on the other hand, is a little short gal, and she has some problems with it. I wonder if her short legs make her sort of push on the pedal with her leg instead of having a comfortable ankle position. She even has trouble driving her RAV4 smoothly. She can't take off on our gravel drive without peeling out, and her side of the garage looks like someone's been drag racing in there.

 

Yeah, this was more of a 07-10 problem. The stuck accelerator fix jacked up a perfectly functioning petal.

 

What do you mean by touchy? On my tundra it felt very laggy and slow, I bought a pedal commander and it makes it adjustable. A lot of people have different opinions but I think a pedal commander helps give you the ability to control your throttle response

 

I'd describe it as a lack of progressiveness. A light tap on the throttle jerks the truck ahead. The roads around here are AWFUL (it's WI, happens every year) and driving over slight bumps, especially after a stop (stoplight, stop sign), trying to get the truck to accelerate in a smooth manner is difficult, as any slight modulation in the pedal is almost like punching the gas. I have to be very aware of barely touching the accelerator in a lot of situations, otherwise it makes for a heck of a jerky ride and whiplash for my riders (mostly my dog).

 

How long have you had it? Have you cleaned the throttle before? Well I don’t know the specific name I know there’s for lack of better terms a throttle plate within your intake where the “throttle body” is. It can get gummed up with carbon maybe that can be contributing. If it’s dirty it wouldn’t hurt to disconnect the battery, clean it up using a guide on here, then let the truck relearn and see if anything changes. At worst I’d recommend a pedal commander or something similar. It could just be a computer thing with your truck and pedal commander has a free returns thing. So if you don’t like the results you can just get your money back. Obviously try the cheaper alternatives first

 

Did the affect the 2nd gens through 2021? I’ve never noticed it I just thought they were trucks and my pedal commander did the job for me. I didn’t realize it was this big of an issue

 

It was only an issue on the earlier gen 2s, 07-10ish.
Toyota refined the pedal as a result in later models.

 

Why is everyone spending money on a replacement part that’s identical to what you already have?

The difference is a small shim, remove the shim for free and you have the same thing as the “redesigned” pedal…

 

+1 lol

 

That is not entirely accurate. I removed the shim on mine and it still had issues. The new pedal solved the problem, but in my case I didn’t end up paying as the recall had just been done by the dealer when in purchased it.

 

The “re-design” changed the design so the pedal:
(A) wouldn’t get stuck open and cause the truck to run-away over people and things; and
(B) didn’t need a shim installed post production that changed the lever geometry causing it to ridiculously amplify the first 5% of pedal travel.

I could have pulled out the shim in the original pedal, but I didn’t want to drive around with a recalled part. The new pedal works great.

 

its kinda funny seeing this thread. then the 2.5 gen guys complaining about unresponsiveness of their trucks and installs power commanders. sure the tundra bucks when you tap it but its not difficult to get used to it and control the throttle. I like the touchy pedals to be able to get through california traffic.