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TOTAL CHAOS Long Travel *Discussion Thread*

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  1. Oct 2, 2018 at 8:55 AM
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    TOTAL CHAOS

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    We have a Long Travel Kit Thread, but we wanted to create a Long Travel Discussion Thread.

    This is a place to discuss ANYTHING Total Chaos Long Travel!
    Post questions, pictures, feedback, tips/tricks, etc. We are happy to help

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    TOTAL CHAOS
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    TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Long Travel System (Boxed)
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    TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Long Travel System (Tubular)
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    MORE INFO



    We also offer kits for the First Gen Tundra!
    TOTAL CHAOS - 2000-2006 TUNDRA Long Travel


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  2. Oct 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM
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    TOTAL CHAOS

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    PRODUCT SPOTLIGHT -

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    TOYOTA TUNDRA +2.5" LONG TRAVEL SUSPENSION (BOXED)

    • TC boxed lower arms feature sway bar mounting tabs to retain the factory sway bar for better cornering.
      TC Heim sway bar link kit is NOT INCLUDED. PT# 87250 is required to retain the sway bar.
    • 2.5" extended 4130 chromoly tubular upper arms bolt to factory control arm mounting locations.
    • Boxed and plated lower control arms are designed for dual 2.5" shock capability.
    • Upper and lower control arms eliminate factory ball joints and incorporate 1" uniballs for maximum wheel travel and component strength.
    • TOTAL CHAOS includes 1" I.D. uniballs that feature a heat treated stainless steel ball & heat treated stainless steel race for maximum corrosion resistance and component longevity. These uniball's also features a military grade PTFE woven fabric liner that helps prevent noise.
    • 2.5" long travel specific coil over shocks bolt into the factory coil bucket location. Extended travel shocks are too short and will not work.
      FOX 880-02-949 (COIL OVER) 982-02-950 (BYPASS)
      KING TC5143-03 (COIL OVER) TC1143-34 (BYPASS)
    • A secondary external bypass shock can be installed to increase dampening and tune-ability.
    • Adjustable limit strap clevis' are included so that you can properly limit the suspensions droop wheel travel and make necessary adjustments during the life of the limit strap.
    • 2 stage powder coat process includes a durable clear coat to provide a long lasting finish.
    • TC 4340 custom extended axles reuse factory inner and outer CV's to retain 4wd. (axles are sold separately and not included with the kit)
    • Stainless steel DOT braided brake lines, hi-misalignment spacers and all grade 8 mounting hardware is included.
    • Hand crafted in the U.S.A.
    • Fiberglass fenders are required to install this system.

    LIFT:
    3-4"
    TRAVEL:
    16" w/4WD
    TIRE:
    35" or 37"
    TRACK WIDTH INCREASE:
    5"




    DID YOU KNOW? The TOTAL CHAOS (Boxed) Long Travel System is compatible with the factory swaybar!
    All you need is the TOTAL CHAOS Heim Swaybar Mounting Kit

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    TOTAL CHAOS Long Travel - Heim Swaybar Mounting Kit

    The tubular LCA set up is great. However with the added cab weight of the 4 door we wanted to reduce some of the body roll at high speeds for flatter cornering. Adding the Sway-Bar-System gave the Tundra much better on and off road handling without sacrificing wheel travel or articulation.
     
  3. Oct 2, 2018 at 9:07 AM
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    me likey those discussions :) my wallet..not so much.
     
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  4. Oct 2, 2018 at 9:21 AM
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    I've been beating on your tube kit hard for the past 4 years. I love the ground clearance on the lower arms. This is by far the best kit out there if you need clearance over technical trails.

    I have a suggestion though, you need a reinforcement on the tube where the knuckle contacts the lower control arm when you turn the wheel full lock. The tube gets dented from the knuckle and it makes me hesitant to do a full lock turn on tight trails.

    Other than that the kit is badass!
     
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  5. Oct 2, 2018 at 9:22 AM
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    What components do you recommend gusseting when running Long Travel?
     
  6. Oct 2, 2018 at 9:26 AM
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    I have my spindles and cam tabs gusseted. I definitely recommend the cam tabs. As for the spindle, both sides are cracking in two different places. Same places on both sides. I think the spindle is flexing and the gussets aren't strong enough in those two places. But my spindles haven't bent yet so I'm not worried about it
     
  7. Oct 2, 2018 at 10:36 AM
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    everything!!

    i have spindle gussets, cam tab gussets deff both needed.
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2018 at 10:37 AM
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    Have you guys ever considered doing a "step up" kit? Like how for the Tacoma your shop offers a +2 or +3.5. Since the Tundra kit is a +2.5, a +4 would be interesting (ie. LSK's is +5).
     
  9. Oct 2, 2018 at 10:40 AM
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    @TOTAL CHAOS why no bed cage option like camburg. the sua parts are all there, all you need to do is make a cage. Although im doing a combination of your parts and theirs. I have camburg cage, your sua plates and lower shock mounts, and deavers.

    Also bump mounts would be nice for LT guys for the rear. camburg only makes them for mid travel guys. Im having to custom make them myself. but no big deal.

    also like alex, i run your front kit and love it. No complaints. on the front kit you guys should include a set of wheeler super bumps for the front kit. they are much better than stock bumps and front cans are not really needed with dual coilover / bypass setups. plus there is limited room when you add a limit strap
     
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  10. Oct 2, 2018 at 10:44 AM
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    I would only guess as their front kit has 16" of travel and utilizes stock CV's with longer intermediate shafts you run into extreme CV angles at full droop which can cause issues so if you extend the shaft another 2 inches while you may gain an inch or two of travel similar to LSK race kit #'s you run the risk of binding a CV which could be catastrophic. But I could be totally off base @TOTAL CHAOS could probably give a better reason as to why not. Just spit balling here

    plus this kit is the exact same as what they run on their race trucks. So it works, if it aint broke dont fix it! LOL
     
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  11. Oct 2, 2018 at 10:46 AM
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    Yea, that's true. You'd really have to trust the strength of your limit straps and bump stops. Didn't you or Alex reach out to RCV about axles?
     
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    RCV axles were several months out last time I asked. They might be available now, but they're only making LT axles specd for TC kit
     
  13. Oct 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM
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    alex did, i wouldnt waste the money honestly ive built two sets of the tc spec axles and the toyota CV's are beefy!! and the 4130 Chromoly TC axles are great. Yeah limit straps and bumps would be the key but id be afraid the length in the arm and cv angles would still be too much. Thus why go longer if you have to restrict travel if that makes sense

    2500$ though is wayyyy too much, id rather build a spare set of TC spec axles with factory toyota parts and carry those, two sets for the price of one. Plus they have boot issues. AS we know from the convo in my build thread
     
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  14. Oct 2, 2018 at 4:18 PM
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    With the knuckle modified there shouldn't be major contact at the LCA. Did you trim your steering stops? I've attached the installation instructions that show the modification. Here is an image of the knuckle after modification:

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    We appreciate the feedback. Looking forward to hearing from you regarding the steering stops.

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    Yeah my ball joint cradles look like they do in your picture, ie no steering stops. I'll take a picture and show you.
     
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    This is a discussion thread yeah?

    @TOTAL CHAOS any comment or thoughts about what @Spvrtan and I were discussing??
     
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    "WE" need 24" of travel!!!
     
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    Easy to do... give tesco or kibbietech 200k and they can build you a 6100 truck ...
     
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    WOW. But I only just picked a number out of the sky. Maybe we should try for more!
     
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    The majority of our customers want to maintain maximum bed space. With this in mind, we developed a solution that would allow longer shocks without intruding in the bed. Some customers have made custom cages for their applications or used other options on the market.

    We do offer a Bump Stop Mount Kit for the Tundra! Designed to work with a KING 2.0” stubby adjustable bump stops. Since you're running a SUA kit the install is a little different. Instead of running the bolt-on striker plate you will need to weld a striker plate to the top of the axle housing.

    Thanks for the support! Post a pic or two of your truck in action :)

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    Yeah will do and understand the market driven point makes total sense. I will post up pics have a ton in my build thread. That being said about the bumps I am just making my own can mounts using king Kartek bump cans and some plate. I also have axle strike plates that will be welded in. Thanks for the help and comments.
     
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    No plans to make an additional kit for the Tundra. We've found +2.5" to be the best option for maximum performance while maintaining a daily driver package. It's a very wide vehicle as-is, and at +2.5" it's barely fitting in parking spots. Going wider wouldn't be very practical.

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    Sorry about any delays - We try to respond as quickly as we can :thumbsup:

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    Have questions about TOTAL CHAOS Long Travel? Comment below!

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