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TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Tundra Long Travel

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by TOTAL CHAOS, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Aug 8, 2018 at 12:20 PM
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    TOTAL CHAOS

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    We have a thread for our Stock Length Lower Control Arms, so I wanted to create one for our Tundra Long Travel Systems. We offer both Tubular and Boxed Long Travel Systems. Take a look at the details below and comment if you have questions.

    https://youtu.be/tankr69sI1s

    TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Long Travel System (Boxed)
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    TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Long Travel System (Tubular)
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    TOYOTA TUNDRA +2.5" LONG TRAVEL SUSPENSION (BOXED INFO)
    • TC boxed lower arms feature sway bar mounting tabs to retain the factory sway bar for better cornering.
      TC Heim sway bar link kit is NOT INCLUDED. PT# 87250 is required to retain the sway bar.
    • 2.5" extended 4130 chromoly tubular upper arms bolt to factory control arm mounting locations.
    • Boxed and plated lower control arms are designed for dual 2.5" shock capability.
    • Upper and lower control arms eliminate factory ball joints and incorporate 1" uniballs for maximum wheel travel and component strength.
    • TOTAL CHAOS includes 1" I.D. uniballs that feature a heat treated stainless steel ball & heat treated stainless steel race for maximum corrosion resistance and component longevity. These uniball's also features a military grade PTFE woven fabric liner that helps prevent noise.
    • 2.5" long travel specific coil over shocks bolt into the factory coil bucket location. Extended travel shocks are too short and will not work.
      FOX 880-02-949 (COIL OVER) 982-02-950 (BYPASS)
      KING TC5143-03 (COIL OVER) TC1143-34 (BYPASS)
    • A secondary external bypass shock can be installed to increase dampening and tune-ability.
    • Adjustable limit strap clevis' are included so that you can properly limit the suspensions droop wheel travel and make necessary adjustments during the life of the limit strap.
    • 2 stage powder coat process includes a durable clear coat to provide a long lasting finish.
    • TC 4340 custom extended axles reuse factory inner and outer CV's to retain 4wd. (axles are sold separately and not included with the kit)
    • Stainless steel DOT braided brake lines, hi-misalignment spacers and all grade 8 mounting hardware is included.
    • Hand crafted in the U.S.A.
    • Fiberglass fenders are required to install this system.

    LIFT:
    3-4"
    TRAVEL:
    16" w/4WD
    TIRE:
    35" or 37"
    TRACK WIDTH INCREASE:
    5"


    MORE INFO
     
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  2. Aug 8, 2018 at 12:25 PM
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    Optional Sway Bar Kit - only compatible with TOTAL CHAOS +2.5" Boxed System (does not work on tubular system)

    • Retain the factory sway bar system for a more stable ride.
    • Increases cornering stability.
    • Heim joints eliminate binding of the factory rubber sway bar link system.
    • Includes preset 14mm heim links left & right side with grade 8 hardware.
    • No drilling or welding required
    • *Only compatible with TC Long Travel Kit with Boxed Lower Control Arms, Part# 87000-B or 87000-B-H
     
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  3. Aug 8, 2018 at 12:32 PM
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    First LOL

    but seriously awesome to see you guys in here and participating... its nice to see vendors giving us the support...
     
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  4. Aug 8, 2018 at 12:42 PM
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    @TOTAL CHAOS

    I actually have a question, but this may be more of a King suspension question...

    On the King Spec TC LT coilovers, the coil springs are not standard 3.0 diameter coils instead they use a Chevy type ~3.5-3.75 diameter spring and that 1.2 inch really reduces clearance between the outer tierod and spring. Especially for those of us who run Coachbuilder tierods (like me) Additionally they are 600lb spec springs and for those who push hard with some added weight in the truck they are a little soft. Btw this also means you could probably spec a 3.0 coilover with enough clearance if you do something similar as below.

    I went to Down south Motorsports and worked with Micha and we changed out the lower spring mount collar and top perch and swapped to a 700lb 3.0 diameter standard spring (which is much better) as well as a flutter stack. Totally improved the ride and manners of the truck.

    So question is are they specd from king that way to give a more compliant ride for "normal" users and for us more extreme guys need to do something like what i described above as a solution. Btw i was getting rubbing on the spring with the stock king spec coil from rubbing with the tierod, now i dont.
     
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  5. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:47 PM
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    Rockin a TC Long Travel on my 09. I might add they have great customer service called yesterday and Pat took care of us right away.
     
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  6. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:48 PM
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    BTW here is what i was talking about..
    so in the one pic there is the orig (600lb) coil off the coil over and the new modified setup with the 700 lb standard style coil. You can see the diff in size

    but the additional clearance in the second pic is good because i maybe had a 1/4 inch or less of space there before.
     
  7. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:52 PM
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    Bruce did you get your rear LT on yet ? We just started redoing mine yesterday wasn't quite happy with the bedcage but new game plan is in the works and hopefully we will finish it by the end of the week.
     
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  8. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:56 PM
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    We are reaching out to King regarding the coils. Going to go discuss other potential options. It was originally designed for the stock tie rods, which it clears, but we'll mention this :)

    We worked with King to provide the best all-around coil over shock. This is what works best for the majority of our users. Customers can change the valving or spring rate if they want to fine tune their setup.

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  9. Aug 8, 2018 at 1:57 PM
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    Thanks for the support. Share some pics of your 09 if you don't mind :cool:
     
  10. Aug 8, 2018 at 2:06 PM
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    Sup Bo!! and nah starting next week on the tear down.. so ill let you know how it goes, well there will be pics in my build thread as normal
     
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  11. Aug 8, 2018 at 2:08 PM
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    Yeah that is what I figured... all good totally makes sense, id say my setup could be offered as a "standard" upgraged version for those wanting a little more offroad performance.

    Side note the reason i found out this whole thing was with less than 5k miles on my coilovers I blew a front coil.. it collapsed so i had to get a new coil so i upgraded..

    the shock was fine, just the actual coil failed
     
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    Damn I wish I can afford a LT :(
     
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  14. Aug 8, 2018 at 6:15 PM
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    yeah it sucks on the wallet.. :spending:
     
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    Will do, still working on a few things, front is done and we're re-dong the rear. We cut a foot off the frame and moved the rear forward spring mounts. As you can imagine ( reference scrambled egg build), it magnified the issues getting the rear suspension dialed in, plus I have no clue what I am doing lol. Hopefully we get the suspension done this week and I will start a build log. 44352229-64DF-4765-8814-37BE2A7B2F7A.jpg
     
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  16. Aug 9, 2018 at 7:12 AM
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    Differences in Tubular Kit vs. Boxed kit? What are your thoughts on UCA uniball dust caps- good idea/bad idea? Heims vs Bushings?
     
  17. Aug 9, 2018 at 7:32 AM
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    Sounds like quite the project! Can't wait to see more

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  18. Aug 9, 2018 at 7:50 AM
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    Besides construction, the main difference is the Boxed Kit can accept a Sway Bar. If you purchase the TOTAL CHAOS LT Heim Sway Bar Kit you can run a swaybar with your Long Travel! This makes a noticeable difference in cornering stability. You'll have a beefier setup with the boxed kit.

    We aren't a huge fan of dust caps or covers for uniballs. It will trap any moisture, dirt, or road grime. It's best to wipe the uniball clean and apply some lubricant before and after a trip. This will give you the longest lasting product.

    The heim upgrade is great since it offers zero bushing deflection and more tuning for caster and camber. You can really fine tune the alignment.

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    Thank you for the reply. Great info.
     
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    I and the rest of my guys can attest to what they said, its a solid mount which means less deflection and the suspension works more effectively, additionally we all run 35-37" tires and you need to run higher caster #'s to have clearance and good steering feel at speed, we run 5 -7 + caster on our setups and with no heim uppers i think you max out around 3.5 to 4 maybe.

    plus when you do dumb stuff like tweak your frame or bend your coil bucket from sending it too hard LOL you can still align the truck with the heims when you would be screwed if you didnt have them.
     
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    Why did you guys at TC decide to use bushings in the LCA and not Heims? Also curious about service life. My 4Runner and 1st Gen Tundra had Heim uppers which was great but the lower bushings were noisy.
     
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    The lower control arms take so much load you want something in there that offers a little bit of absorption. On the 2007+ Tundra LCA’s we use massive polyurethane bushings for not only precise movement vs a rubber bushing but some flex to prevent frame damage and feeling every bump in the road as compared to a rigid uniball-style pivot. The lower control arm pivots feature zerk fittings for easy on the vehicle greasing which should keep the squeaks to a minimum.

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    We've been chatting with the team at King. Hope to have some info posted later this week

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    Pat,

    Can you share/show photos of a rear SUA Kit for the Tundra and discuss please?
     
  25. Aug 14, 2018 at 8:42 AM
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    We'll get working on a thread for that :)

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    Thank you. Looking forward to discuss this!
     
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    No problem - It might not get posted until next week. Prepping for VEGAS TO RENO on Friday!
     
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    Good luck! Go NICOLE!!!!!!! WOOT!!!!!
     
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    good luck team TC @TOTAL CHAOS on the V to R run looking forward to hearing and seeing vids from the race
     
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    Waiting patiently...
     
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