The shine is wearing off! Dealer says I need new tires after 30k?!

I've believed for years that they make OEM tires softer so the customer will not complain about the ride of a new vehicle. I've never gotten more than about 30 to 35,000 miles out of a OEM tire regardless of the Manufacturer. Until..... my 14 Tundra. It had KOs and I got 56,000 out of them but they were put at the dealer.

Either way, don't believe them. I had a tech tell me that my battery was shot and I need brakes on my 14 at the next service interval (30,000) and I went three years and 50,000 on the battery and brakes he wanted to replace.

Liars. It is hard to find honest people anymore in most anything.

 

Consider get Es or Ds at least. The P tires don't have as much tread and they wear out much faster. Granted, an E or D is going to ride rougher. Might need shocks.

 

The only silver lining is Black Friday is coming up.

 

Firstly this is a GOOD THING! Plenty of guys, me included, couldn't wait for the OE stuff to wear out so we'd have an excuse to bump the size a bit!

Secondly it is smart for mfrs to equip their vehicles with the quietest, smoothest riding tire possible to impress on test drives. this doesn't typically agree with longevity.

 

I had to replace my stock Michelin’s at 25,000 miles or so. They were almost to the wear bars.

 

Automotive manufacturers have been installing cheaper consumable to stay competitive in the market, Tires/battery etc that are listed under interval maintenance will come with lower life expectancy.

 

I rotate and balance mine often, and whenever I feel a change in how the vehicle rides ... I have yet to get less than 60k out of any set of Michelin tires that I have owned doing it this way.

 

I had Bridgestone Duelers on my 4runner and those were the biggest POS tires, as far as tread wear that I have ever owned. I think they lasted around 25k miles before replacing.

 

That's about right for the OE bridgestones, the OE michelins last quite a bit longer

 

My wifes 2017 4Runner with 13K on the OEM Bridgestones are close to replacement already. Not much left on the tread depth. I'll snap a pic tonight.

 

Carfax on my Tundra shows the factory Michelin’s being replaced at 33k miles. Purchased the truck with new factory Michelin’s at 34k miles, odometer at almost 38k miles now. My buddy’s ‘18 Tundra factory Michelin’s need replaced at almost 23k-24k miles.

 

No it's not! And just because you got Discount Tire in your sig doesn't prove it.

 

Funny.....I have 45k miles on my stock KO2's with 8/32s tread left. Seems I should see about 55 or 60k on them. Depends how you drive I guess. I've always had great luck with KO2's as well as all my family on different vehicles(sequoia, tundras, 4 runner, and tacomas)

 

I would say the KO2’s aren’t really a stock tire. More of a dealer add on with the TSS. But it is pretty sweet that you can get them right off the lot.

 

Was just thinking the same thing......

 

Check the tires yourself. The BFG KO2's that came on mine, lasted over 80,000 miles. I'm thinking either you have a bad set of tires or the dealer is trying to make a little extra from you.

 

On that note, since they will add them with the TSS and the rims that they come with, it would be a cool incentive if dealers swapped out the Michelin‘s on the Pros with some KO2’s. Even if it was still the stock size. It would make the trucks look that much more capable right on the lot.

 

I have never ever had a tire last me 80,000 miles. That’s pretty good man. Although I don’t think I’ve ever had and E rated tire. Yet.
My first pick up truck was an F150 manual rcsb with a V6. So E rated didn’t seem required. And my second pick up truck was a Dodge ram manual V8 rcsb on 20s. That truck was more for sport than off road or heavy towing. I think the most I got was 30 to 40 K out of any set of street tires. Even on my Chevy TBSS. I like to hit them corners LOL. My current OEM Michelin AT’s have about 30 K on them and I should probably replace them in the next 5K. I thought I was doing good Ha Ha!

 

Right, I got them on my 2017 TSS off the lot, but yes....it's a dealer thing and not straight from factory like that

 

That would help them look better for sure.

Not all TSS wheels get/got the KO2s, my TSS "take-offs" have Hankook Dynapros, which don't look bad but are not the same and really doubt the mileage will compare.

 

I have never gotten near that kind of mileage out of a tire either. I have learned to look at the Load ratings more over the years. Many buy tires for looks and budget and many are not properly rated for their vehicle weight. A tire can be advertised as a certain mileage tire but on too heavy a vehicle they will not last as advertised.

 

He's a pic of front and rear Michelins my Uncle had on his Tahoe (not OEM). This is at 93k and 10 years old. He was shooting for 100k before replacing but got a knot in one at 99k.

 

I think if you can get tires to last you more than five years, usually it was highway miles to get you that far. I’m typically in the city and mountain roads wearing them out pretty quick. But after five years the rubber gets really hard and they will take you even further LOL. I would bet your uncle’s tires hit that hard rubber mark about halfway through their milage. I had an old set of Michelin‘s on my ram with 17 inch rims. I swapped them out for factory 20s and put the 17s in the garage. I gave the truck to my mom and put the 17s back on when the 20s wore out. The 17s went in the garage probably in 2004 and returned to service life around 2010. And she drove on them until around 2017. They still had plenty of tread left but they were cracking to hell. Hard to know the exact mileage but I want to say, total, probably 70 K on them. It’s like they would never wear out because the rubber got so hard.

 

That looks like the Michelin LTX M/S. I see that tire go 100k miles all the time, people usually just replace them because they get too old rather than wearing out. If I wanted road tires, that's what I would get every time.

 

How about this - p rated tires generally have less tread depth than the same tire that is LT rated and manufacturers almost always select the p rated tire to be put on the vehicle from the factory. I think a large number of people replace those p rated tires with LT tires which in turn gives them many more miles on the road. In my experience, P rated tires have a hard time lasting 50k on a vehicle as heavy as the Tundra unless you are well past the wear indicator.

 

Not sure what the stock tires were on my 18 Platinum. But they were toast at 22k miles.

I looked at it like it was a positive so it made it mandatory to get Cooper AT3 XLT’s!

 

My KO2s are at 48k and will go at least another 20 but my daily commute is almost all hwy

 

Good to know I'm not the only one. I'm at 30K and I think I'll be due in the next 6 months. I like the look and performance, but $1000+ every 3 years might make me reconsider.

WTF!

 

I drive about 60 miles a day during week on lots of highway/interstate. again....at 45k now...i think I'll make it about 55 or 60k, but i'm going to replace soon with bigger tires to go with lift. Going with KO2 again in a 35/12.5R20. People say that's an old man's tire, but it seems to do well for what I utilize it for (95% on road/5% offroad with some 4wd). Everyone else can jump on the bandwagon of other name tires that I see constant complaints about wearing out at 35k miles although all you ever hear is, "Man, they look awesome!". Looking good doesn't constitute having bad tires when that's what holds my truck to the ground. I'll spend the $1000-$1500 on tires each times if I get out what I have been in the past.

 

I just went through the tire buying process - my dealer told me the factory tires even though new, have less tread depth. I'm not sure how true that is, but, it would seem to reason that many folks with new tires seems to not like the factory tire, but folks who buy the same tire aftermarket love the same tire.