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Tell me about your lift kits

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Beefnbread, Apr 24, 2021.

  1. Apr 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM
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    Beefnbread

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    I'm sure there’s already threads like this...
    So I was interested in getting a 3 inch lift or something along the lines of that , but I was interested in hearing about what kind of kits you guys have and your opinion on them. I want to find the best kit pretty much.

    Post a pic of your lifted tundra, tell me about how it rides, what brand, what size, what problems you’ve experienced, etc

    Thanks
     
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  2. Apr 24, 2021 at 9:58 PM
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    Off Road or Street or both?
     
  3. Apr 24, 2021 at 10:08 PM
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    As of now, I don’t rub any where. I haven’t really taken it off roading but it performed well in the recent snow storm with 36”+ of snow. To me, it feels like it rides the same as it did stock but I still had the original suspension components with 189k on them so things were pretty worn. I haven’t really noticed any major differences in ride/power. The only thing I would change is using an add-a-leaf vs the blocks.
     
  4. Apr 24, 2021 at 10:25 PM
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    King OEM PER 2.5" Front, Method 17X8.5, Firestone 275/70/17, Aftermarket Receiver and Bose compatible sub.
    I agree with @SouthPaw in general, but...
    King OEM 2.5 extended with or without reservoirs (Call Accutune for the best Advice). You may want 3.0 shocks
    Total Chaos UCAs
    Rear leafs instead of blocks, but only enough to level.
    Extended sway links or new sway setup
    King Smooth rear shocks
    4WD may require some other mods.
    No spacers on wheels or stacked on suspension components

    Edit: I didn't get extended Kings at first, I didn't know any better. They are at King now getting rebuilt. I have some new 700# Eibach Springs, but I'm keeping the 650s on for now to tweak one thing at a time. Softer is better without a bunch of weight. I got the 700lbs to reduce pre-load which reduces droop at my height, but the TC and EXT travel may make that a non-issue. The TC UCAs gave me more droop at 2.75" lift. Ill get some more soon. The things ride really well on the street, but love to be hit at speed. I have 5100's in the back, I am scoping some new leafs and bigger billies or kings for the rear. Tires are 275/70/17 on Methods 8.5 / 0mm offset. A few pics. I'll try to add some more of my phone, or just look at https://www.tundras.com/threads/not-a-build-as-much-as-a-renew.86734/

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  5. Apr 25, 2021 at 12:26 AM
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  7. Apr 25, 2021 at 2:36 AM
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    I bought the same kings and also learned about the 'extended travel' option after the fact. What does the rebuild at KING entail and how much $ they charging? I'm assuming you're having them rebuilt extended. Appreciate the info if you don't mind sharing. I was told the only difference is a bushing inside the standard's that limit the extension, so my understanding is that it can just be removed and voila- extended travel. (I know its not quite that simple) Is that right?
     
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  8. Apr 25, 2021 at 4:19 AM
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    You re right:thumbsup:
     
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  9. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:08 AM
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    Factory they cost the same
    its pretty much that simple. If I had an adequate spring compressor, I would have tried myself. I’ve read the shaft needs to be changed as well, I don’t think so. At King, they told me prob just an hour of labor. No mention of parts. Mine are new, so nothing to replace. Unless there is something to that shaft business. I live close enough to King that I dropped them off. Might get them back in the next two, may have to wait until next week. Depends on my speaking skills when I call tomorrow. So for new, what’s an hour of labor $100?

    EDIT: So Apparently an hour of labor is $75. I just installed them again, but can't speak to the benefit yet. In my situation is was a drop off/pickup. More droop, just can't say yet how much of a difference.
     
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  10. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:10 AM
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    BTW, Accutune won’t touch OEM Perf, they are too complicated apparently.
     
  11. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:12 AM
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    I think I read somewhere that the EXT version adds an extra 1/2"-1" of droop. Don't quote me on that though.
     
  12. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:17 AM
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    That’s my info.
     
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  13. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:33 AM
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    That’s a nice uca you got there. Is it only recommended to get a new uca after you lift up the front? Or does it maintain the same geometry as the original?
    Also how does the ball joint work on that one? I’m assuming it still gets compressed into the spindle despite being upside down compared to the oem ball joint?
     
  14. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:33 AM
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  15. Apr 25, 2021 at 8:39 AM
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    The locals are going to kill me for a response, lol. UCAs are needed after 2.5” or so of lift and help better align. I found sway bar mods are needed as well. I’m 2WD, so maybe some transfer case and or tie rods on 4WD. But, TC UCA owners never seem to have problems with alignment from what I have seen, searched.
     
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  16. Apr 25, 2021 at 9:23 AM
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    I wouldn t give it a 10 though it s funny. I ll give him/her that. Thing is, if the op wasnt such an arrogant pos, he would thank me for giving him a link full of what he was asking for.
     
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  17. Apr 25, 2021 at 9:38 AM
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    bilstein 5100, icon AAL with overload still in place in back. Truck sits nice, slight rake even with the cap, drives wonderful and tows like a dream
     
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  18. Apr 25, 2021 at 9:54 AM
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    That was a great link, BTW...
     
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    I missed the part where the OP was an arrogant pos but sometimes I'm dense. Carry on.
     
  20. Apr 25, 2021 at 9:55 AM
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    Really like it. Rides good and flexes good.
     

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  21. Apr 25, 2021 at 10:05 AM
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    I thought your link was nice :(
     
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    Hehehe. Ok. yea. maybe you are. No worries. I m there with ya, though the gif wasn t that hard to understand. COME ON MAN! (That was my biden impression in case you didn t get it:D)
     
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    I see you are a 1st gen owner.

    Can I talk you out of it? Probably not what you wanted to hear, but here is what I went through...

    Old man emu 2.5/1.5 with an add-a-leaf in the rear.
    Kit showed up, looked great, excellent quality, fun to install. Good stuff so far.

    I used a 1" diff drop to lessen the angle on the CV's. Also very easy to install.

    So I got everything together. The rear springs were saggy from 20 years on the road and the add a leaf packs didn't quite get the rear end up to the same height as the front. "Cali lean". It didn't look terrible, so I moved forward.

    I drove it for several miles to get a feel for it. Definitely a lot more body roll than I expected for such a modest lift. Poked my head underneath to check things out and both CV boots were spitting grease, again due to 20 years on the road. I now have to replace those.

    Off to the alignment shop... Went to a place with a good reputation. The alignment turned out terrible. I have been told that the cam bolts freeze into place requiring them to be cut out and replaced in addition to the lower control arm bushings. The shop called me and said everything was done, no issues. I picked the truck up and the camber still looked terrible, additionally the shop could not produce the alignment measurement sheet.

    I noticed there was a nearly identical 2006 on the alignment rack, same color, lift height and everything. Well, they got confused and gave me the alignment sheet with that truck's information on the header, but they insisted it was my truck (not buying that). SO, now I have to take the truck back in after I replace the CV's (also replacing the lower ball joints while I'm in there). The shop even tried to charge me a 12 dollar hazmat fee which I said I would not pay under any circumstances, it took them half an hour to delete the fee, but they were waiting for me to say "I'll just pay it." Well, no I didn't. It's pretty much a slam dunk that they are going to accuse me of changing parts and wanting a "new" alignment afterwards. Admittedly, the alignment situation is entirely my fault, I shouldn't have driven off until they reverified everything.

    Cost breakdown..

    770 for the lift
    40 for diff drop
    80 for the alignment (way overpriced, I live in a small town)
    ??? for the CV's and ball joints, but they aren't going to be cheap.

    For me, NOT WORTH IT.


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    Don’t feel bad about the alignment cost. I paid Les Schwab $89 the other day for an alignment. I swear a couple years ago it was only $60.

    Anyways yeah, I had the same problem with the cv boot spewing grease last week about after I put on a 2 inch leveling kit. I posted a thread about it not too long ago.

    All in all though your truck looks pretty good with all that. I would’ve given the alignment shop a harder time in your case.
     
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    I feel like your truck would look pretty rad with some fatter tires with your lift
     
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    Really my only reason for lifting it was to use v-bar tire chains without having to have an extra set of smaller tires so everything would clear under the fenders. I agree though, it would look much better with some stuffed wheel wells!
     
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    The gif (kicking 2nd gen out, which is always fun 'round these parts) was easy to understand, but I don't think it was posted by the OP, if that's what you were referring to.
     
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    Definitely gonna be askin for another report back on these later. I'm also pretty close to KING and may do the same, $100 would be worth it. Did you drive on them at all before you took them in? Would be cool to hear first hand comparison once you get them back and installed. thanx I appreciate the info.
     

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