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Steering Rack play

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Dragracingdan, Jul 7, 2018.

  1. Jul 10, 2018 at 1:41 PM
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    Also I was reading this thread and someone mentioned carrier bearing. So while I was under there I shook the drive shaft center support bearing and there was quite a bit of play. Also the rubber was split in a few spots. The drive shaft also seemed to be sagging in the support bearing. Here is a picture below. Your thoughts?

    20180710_161816~01.jpg 20180710_161820~01.jpg

    Thanks,
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  2. Jul 10, 2018 at 2:27 PM
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    Yeah buddy. Grease those zerks. The carrier bearing is ok unless it starts wobbling and vibrating. When that happens change out your yokes and u-joints with new. In the meantime, grease the zerks. Should be 5.
     
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  3. Jul 10, 2018 at 3:17 PM
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    Anyone know the factory specs on allowable ‘play’ on these carrier bearing housings?
     
  4. Jul 10, 2018 at 3:55 PM
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    Thanks for the reply. I could easily shake the drive shaft at the carrier bearing. After looking some more, this may be where all the vibration and shaking is coming from?

    Didn't see any zerks while down there (wasn't really looking) Man, I really hope this is the issue I've been chasing! Seems like an easy enough project for a Saturday or Sunday.

    I can't find a good diagram of the drive shaft. There are 3 U-joints and @Professional Hand Model said yokes (...?) Is there anything else I should replace while I have the drive shaft apart?

    Thanks alot,
    Dan
     
  5. Jul 10, 2018 at 3:58 PM
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    Youtube is your friend.
     
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  6. Jul 10, 2018 at 4:09 PM
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    Just change the carrier bearing and u-joints with zerk-able replacements. You can remove the drive shaft and take it up to a place that specializes in propeller shafts and they will put your parts on as they have a special press for the joints. Do not go cheapie on the carrier bearing and buy the Toyota OEM. Watch youtube about it.
     
  7. Jul 10, 2018 at 4:09 PM
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  8. Jul 10, 2018 at 6:47 PM
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  9. Jul 11, 2018 at 4:25 PM
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    Parts ordered. Went with all OEM parts. Got the carrier bushing and new U joints.

    Thanks to all for the assistance

    Dan
     
  10. Jul 11, 2018 at 4:55 PM
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    Let us know if you find out the factory play in that new bushing. Mine has some play at 157k, but no problems with vibration.
     
  11. Jul 12, 2018 at 1:55 PM
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    When you replaced the steering rack bushings did you tourqe everything to spec? They need to be much tighter than I originally thought and tightening it all tightened my steering up a lot.
     
  12. Jul 12, 2018 at 4:48 PM
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    When I replaced the bushings things definitely got better. I will go back and double check the torques though

    Thanks,
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    Ahh, found the page with the torque specs for those rack bolts. Thanks again
    Screenshot_20180712-195405_Drive~01.jpg
     
  14. Jul 13, 2018 at 7:36 AM
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    123 ft lbs on that top bolt isn't easy but I finally got the wrench to click. Just enough clearance under the tranny pan to clear the torque wrench handle .
     
  15. Jul 17, 2018 at 6:54 AM
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    Driveshaft parts are backordered from Toyota. Should be getting the tires any day now
     
  16. Jul 18, 2018 at 3:33 PM
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    Driveshaft parts tomorrow and wheels and tires this weekend!! Not sure I'll be able to get to the driveshaft this weekend but I should be able to test out the new wheels and tires
     
  17. Jul 20, 2018 at 4:35 PM
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    Got the new tires and wheels on. Still doing the shake/vibrate thing but not nearly as much.

    Guess I'll move on the to carrier bearing when I can. Rain this weekend.

    Comments and suggestions appreciated

    Best,
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  18. Jul 21, 2018 at 6:59 AM
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    Good to hear that the new wheels and tires helped the shaking.

    Are you still have a steering issue at highway speeds?

    Is the shaking in the steering wheel or more in the seat?

    Can you post your allignment specs?
     
  19. Jul 21, 2018 at 8:13 AM
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    lets see the new wheels and tires!
     
  20. Jul 21, 2018 at 11:16 AM
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    I had the exact same vibration and it ended up being my carrier bearing on the driveshaft.
     
  21. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:14 PM
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    Still slight back and forth movement in steering wheel. Used to be at 65 mph now it seems it's doing it at 45 to 50 mph with the new tires.

    There is also vibration throughout the cab. Water bottle in the cup holder is constantly shaking etc.

    Here's a pic of the alignment sheet from the alignment I got 2 or so weeks ago...
    20180721_160129.jpg
     
  22. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:16 PM
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    Before with the corroded 15 year old Enks:
    20180720_153122.jpg

    After with new wheels (please forgive, it needs a wash..)20180720_171911.jpg
     
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  23. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:25 PM
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    Looks great!

    Your alignment numbers look good.

    Can you take a video of your steering rack and tie rods when you turn the wheel side to side with wheels on the ground. This will show you where the play in the steering wheel is coming from.
     
  24. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:28 PM
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    Thanks!
    Raining out now and I'll need a second person to man the wheel. May take me a few days to post a video

    Thanks for your replies and comments
     
  25. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:46 PM
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    I was able to prop my phone under the truck and then hop in and steer it.
     
  26. Jul 21, 2018 at 1:50 PM
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    Great! I'll give it a try

    Thanks
     
  27. Jul 22, 2018 at 6:27 AM
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    Carrier bearing replacement helped tremendously with mine, but I've still got a vibration somewhere.....i'm still enjoying chasing gremlins and replacing worn out parts at 214k lol.
     

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