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Potentially snapped Timing Belt

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by thefish712, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. Jun 26, 2021 at 8:03 PM
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    My condolences. I was rooting for you.
     
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  2. Jun 26, 2021 at 8:34 PM
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    This what mine looks like. Sucks that going to college is so expensive otherwise I would of replaced it as soon as I bought the truck.

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  3. Jun 26, 2021 at 8:36 PM
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    That needs replacing.
     
  4. Jun 26, 2021 at 8:40 PM
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    Yes it does
     
  5. Jun 26, 2021 at 9:13 PM
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    Would suck worse going to college, and not being able to afford fixing your truck if that belt snaps.

    If you can't afford to take it to a shop, then I'd recommend getting the Aisin kit, hitting up YouTube, and tackling the sucker yourself. OP provided a great example of what could happen if you put it off.

    Or find a cheap car to daily, and park the truck until you do have the money to get the belt done.
     
  6. Jun 27, 2021 at 10:10 AM
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  7. Jun 27, 2021 at 11:44 AM
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    Which kind of raincoat are you talking about? the kind that saves your timing belt on your tundra or the kind that saves you hundreds of thousands of dollars in childbearing costs and college? Ha Ha
     
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  8. Jun 27, 2021 at 11:50 AM
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    2mchfun Cool story, but did your new TTV6 tow a shuttle?

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    Yes, you nailed it, I was indeed making the point that an ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
     
  9. Jun 27, 2021 at 1:30 PM
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    Sorry to hear about this, OP.

    Not directed at the OP...

    There are different approaches to maintenance, two of them are: preventative and run-to-fail. Each work and each has pros and cons. Preventative maintenance makes sense for a timing belt on an interference engine, oil changes, etc. while run-to-fail works great for light bulbs, shock absorbers, etc.
     
  10. Jun 27, 2021 at 2:52 PM
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    Like all the others.. I hate to hear of this, but try to keep it in perspective. The investment now will reap the benefit of many years of worry free driving. :thumbsup:
     
  11. Jun 27, 2021 at 3:05 PM
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    Yeah, exactly. Not super thrilled about having to buy a "new" engine for my truck; but the thought of getting an engine with 100K less miles and another 10 year lifespan is a nice payoff.

    Btw, the guys at the shop found bits and pieces of the original timing belt - they don't think it was EVER replaced. Wtf. Thought my neighbor (guy I bought it from) took care of his truck. Live and learn
     
  12. Jun 27, 2021 at 3:18 PM
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    Never take anyone's word for it without proof. That's why I went ahead and had mine done. Sure was expensive, but I paid $7k for the truck. Would've sucked for that $7k to wind up down the train over some rubber.

    But hey, sounds like you're making the best out of a rough situation. Hoping that, when the day comes that I'm faced with a similar situation, I'm able to do the same.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2021 at 3:20 PM
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    Well, it definitely sucks, but I just don't know how else to handle it I suppose. No use in getting all bent out of shape about it. Good learning experience, albeit the hard way haha, and now my truck will have a sweet newish engine!
     
  14. Jun 27, 2021 at 3:25 PM
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    And now you know how to avoid this down the line. Can't wait to see what you do with the truck once you've got it back!
     
  15. Jun 27, 2021 at 3:35 PM
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    Whatever engine you do get, I'd also just get that used engine caught up on all replacement parts needed before the reinstall.
     
  16. Jun 27, 2021 at 4:38 PM
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    Especially the timing belt & water pump, it will be worth the great feeling you will have once your back on the road
     
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  17. Jun 27, 2021 at 5:03 PM
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    I call BS on the shop, most Toyota use hydraulic valves. It use engine oil to keep the valves open, once timing belt is broke, no engine oil to keep the valves open, so it spring shut. My friend snap a timing belt on his Camry, I help him put a timing belt back and it ran like nothing happened.
     
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    Rebuild is better than used engine. Toyota engine is known to run 1mil miles, that engine is just broken in with 200k.
     
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    Have you checked for another opinion from another shop?
     
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    Bent valves are not an opinion. Whether or not the block and heads are serviceable (block maybe, heads less likely) is another story. If the block is good, re-piston and new heads would get you going again.
     
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    Sorry, but this thread is almost as bad as the ridgeline.....
     
  22. Jun 27, 2021 at 9:11 PM
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    Guys, it sounds like a engine replacement is the smart thing to do. Rebuilding the engine wouldn't save me much money... if any
     
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    money isnt everything. Cussing and throwing tools will teach you more about the importance of maintenance and inspection than a shops bill.
     
  25. Jun 27, 2021 at 9:16 PM
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    Totally with you on this. But I'm not touching rebuilding the engine myself
     
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    I would not pay for a 2nd opinion. I'd just go to the first shop and ask to see the damage. It's going to be readily apparent with bend and damaged parts.

    I'd have to agree. For the cost of a rebuild on a high miles engine, if a low miles engine is available for a similar cost that would be the way to go IMO.
     
  27. Jun 27, 2021 at 9:19 PM
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  28. Jun 28, 2021 at 3:35 AM
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    I asked before how much you trust this shop. Do some research as this is a great opportunity to get other work done while the engine is out. There are a lot of parts that are easier to get to when it's out. I think I'd go the same route as you and just find a used engine.
     
  29. Jun 28, 2021 at 3:55 AM
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    Unless I missed something here, why in the world do you need to replace or rebuild the engine? IF what they indicate is correct, that you only suffered bent valves, then just get both heads rebuilt. Thats all that is needed, other than replacement of the water pump and timing belt. As long as there is no damage to the top of the pistons, you're fine. Why go to the expense of rebuilding the short block? Its simply not needed. I would get a 2nd opinion.
     
  30. Jun 28, 2021 at 4:19 AM
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    If the valves are bent, then there's likely other associated damage as well. Some may even be hard to see. If it were my engine and the belt snapped and the valves were bent from piston contact, it would be a full tear down and rebuild. Replacing just the heads, reassembling and firing it back up just to find that one or more of your connecting rods is also bent (even slightly so), or one or more piston is cracked and then have to tear it back down and do it again is a bad plan. Could be main bearing damage, could be piston wall damage. If it happened at idle, I'd be more optimistic. It happened at 65mph in gear. Lot of inertia left in the motor.
     

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