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Potentially snapped Timing Belt

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by thefish712, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. Jun 21, 2021 at 1:32 PM
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    At 65mph in the HOV lane going through LA, the last thing I wanted was a snapped timing belt. But that may have been what I got.

    Heard a quick pop sound from the engine and no gas could be given after that. Luckily, I was able to coast off the hwy and get towed to a shop my friend recommended. I'm still waiting to hear back what exactly it was, but I'm expecting the worst.

    If it is the timing belt, any idea what this will look like in terms of damage/repair? I know it can ruin the engine and a replacement may be the only answer. At this point, again, I'm expecting the worse and want to get ahead of planning for it. How much should a "new" engine cost plus labor?

    2005 Toyota Tundra 4.7L V8
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    Potential timing belt snapped at 65mph

    Thank you!
     
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  2. Jun 21, 2021 at 1:38 PM
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    IF the belt snapped at that speed your looking at severe valve damage and piston damage. Be looking into an new engine. Do you know when the belt was last replaced? If it was recently I’d be talking to the company that made the belt. Engine replacement at a shop will run 3-6k depending on mileage labor rate, location, etc.


    A reman engine will be a fair bit more
     
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  3. Jun 21, 2021 at 1:48 PM
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    Oof, yeah, that will suck. I am not sure when the belt was last replaced. There is no sticker on the engine like there usually would be. At 3-6k, is it worth it to fix in your guy's opinions?
     
  4. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:09 PM
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    Personally, I'd replace the engine with reman'd if you ever plan on selling this truck sometime in the future. Even if it's just a tiny fraction of uncertainty. I'd replace with a reman'd engine.

    Now, if you're going to keep the truck... this is a perfect opportunity to have some fun. See the meme above.


    Glad you're safe!
     
  5. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:14 PM
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    Sounds like you either need a used or rebuilt engine you can buy. How many miles did you add from ownership?
     
  6. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:17 PM
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    Only 9k
     
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    Wow, that really sucks. Sorry to hear. You could probably use the Toyota site to check if the first change of the timing belt was done at the dealer. Hard to believe the original owner would let it go that long.
     
  8. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:21 PM
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    You can pull back the timing cover and check the belt in around 90 seconds. You need to do that first before anyone can give advice.
     
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  9. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:23 PM
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    Yeah, I'm still waiting to hear back from the shop I had to leave it at. It's all just guesses until then. Would sure be nice if it wasn't the timing belt.
     
  10. Jun 21, 2021 at 2:26 PM
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    I’ll cross my fingers for you. There’s been a few people I’ve read about that broke a timing belt without engine damage. I don’t understand how, LOL, but that’s what I’ve read. So I’m gonna hope for the best for you.
     
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    I’d rebuild the engine on my time, and go with a known-good jy engine in the meantime. But i could swap myself. And id change parts. I also wouldnt be scared of a 4.8/4l60 swap.
     
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    Depends on the condition of the truck overall. If it’s a clean one, you sure as hell won’t find a replacement for 6k. A new truck would be double that.
     
  14. Jun 21, 2021 at 4:19 PM
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    I’ve read a few times of others that the belt has snapped. One was even supercharged going 45-50mph. All were able to put a new belt on and no damage was done. I hope to hear good news when your mechanic calls, good luck!
     
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    Same here, so it is possible that you won’t have any damage if your belt snapped. Hopefully is not the belt and you’re able to get it back in shape!
     
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  16. Jun 21, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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    The truck is in great condition otherwise and looks incredible. I bought it for $9k and a Toyota shop told me that was a steal for the condition it was in. I would much rather fix her up.
     
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    Timing belt totally broke. Sounds like the '05 Tundra 4.7 is a non-interference engine which means that I'm probably SOL. Does that sound right? Just want to prep myself.
    The mechanic will know more about the condition of the engine tomorrow.
     
  18. Jun 22, 2021 at 2:32 PM
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    Actually, the more I read, the more it sounds conflicted. Mine is a 4.7 V8 engine. Any ideas?
     
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    I think you have that backwards. Non-interference means it wouldn't hurt anything. I've always read these trucks have interference engines. Several people have reported the belt breaking and it not causing damage though. You won't know until the shop checks further. Do you trust the shop?

    More info in these treads.

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/timing-belt-break-2006-tundra-4-7.19966/

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/2004-toyota-v8-timing-belt-breaks-at-65mph.56717/
     
  21. Jun 22, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Your mechanic might be able to just rebuild the engine you have. All is not lost just because of some bent or broken rods, wasted valves, and pistons. Cylinder sleeves is a way to fix up the block damages.
     
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    Well the issue with bent valves is the damage to the head usually requiring new heads. Pistons suffer too. Bore should not unless a valve completely broke
     
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    2mchfun Yeah it'll pull it, just don't expect to stop!

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    Precisely why I said MIGHT be able
     
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    Sorry to hear this news.
     
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    Any records to indicate the age of the timing belt?
     
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    If it did bend valves, I’d be looking for a yunk yard motor. They can be had pretty cheap and you can freshen everything up before you stab it in.
     
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    Wish you the best of luck with this. I have seen a few people on here report losing their timing belt and getting away with no damage but I would prepare yourself.
     
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    I had a old Honda prelude that the timing belt let go at ~ 60mph, 6 bent valves and one damaged piston.

    I would suspect OP would have a few bent valves at that speed. If it broke during idle then there would have been a better chance at no damage.
     
  30. Jun 22, 2021 at 8:14 PM
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    Well, hoping for the best. My buddy was telling me to check out junk yards as well. Sounds like there are so many vehicles with this engine (both the aluminum and plastic(?) insides,,, excuse my ignorance), that he's even seen several under $1,000
     

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