1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Potentially snapped Timing Belt

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by thefish712, Jun 21, 2021.

  1. Aug 4, 2021 at 7:43 PM
    #301
    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2019
    Member:
    #36156
    Messages:
    15,612
    First Name:
    Mo
    The SoAz
    Vehicle:
    2006 DC 4.88s Elocker and some other trippy stuff
    None
    When the 4.9l I-6 went out in my old Ford, me and my cousin found a yard with one from a Ford tech school or something, but we opened up the bottom end and he said it had under 100 hours, no wear at all. Buttoned it all back up, threw a holly 4 barrel truck avenger carb and headers with 3” exhaust. Kinda like these V8s; not screamers but they are still fun!
     
    Darkness likes this.
  2. Aug 4, 2021 at 8:20 PM
    #302
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Yeah, a lot of lessons learned(ing) here. Not the greatest way to go about it on my end but they kept telling me I was good to go.

    I can’t find the VIN/ID on the engine. I imagine it’s on the block but I’m not seeing anything.
     
  3. Aug 4, 2021 at 8:22 PM
    #303
    ToyotaJim

    ToyotaJim New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Member:
    #45547
    Messages:
    228
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    The shop and sellers almost certainly recorded the VIN, if for no other reason any warranty issues and their own records. The seller must know the VIN from the vehicle?
     
  4. Aug 4, 2021 at 8:22 PM
    #304
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Yeah, I’m finding it out tomorrow from the previous shop owner. The shop changed ownership while my truck was being fixed. Don’t love that
     
  5. Aug 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM
    #305
    Darkness

    Darkness Allergic to white

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2018
    Member:
    #17315
    Messages:
    9,976
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Luis
    All over SoCal
    Vehicle:
    The darkest
    It's really dark
    Thats a streak of bad luck but if its running well now be happy and take good care of it.
     
    thefish712[OP] likes this.
  6. Aug 5, 2021 at 10:27 AM
    #306
    N84434

    N84434 In the Frozen Tundra

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2020
    Member:
    #41580
    Messages:
    1,087
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Milwaukee WI.
    Vehicle:
    2001 Limited TRD
    Looking forward to the (hopefully good news) update...
     
    Filthyphil and jpink like this.
  7. Sep 15, 2021 at 7:44 AM
    #307
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Hey guys, sorry for the major delay here on an update. Truck runs great. Engine sounds like a beast.

    Of course, that's only half the story. Truck wouldn't start about two weeks ago but started right up once I got a new battery in there (it was time). I went out of town for ~10 days and came back yesterday to find it still doesn't start. I'm thinking it's either a bad starter or alternator. Any ideas and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
    JimboSlice413 likes this.
  8. Sep 15, 2021 at 7:52 AM
    #308
    FirstGenVol

    FirstGenVol Brake Czar

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2018
    Member:
    #22934
    Messages:
    13,093
    East TN
    Vehicle:
    2002 AC
    To me, it sounds like something is draining your battery. Do you have any aftermarket parts that would drain the battery? Doesn't seem like a starter issue to me.
     
  9. Sep 15, 2021 at 7:55 AM
    #309
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Hmm there is a towing brake control adjuster in the truck that I've never used. Can't think of anything else
     
  10. Sep 15, 2021 at 8:00 AM
    #310
    SouthPaw

    SouthPaw The headlight guy

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2019
    Member:
    #35992
    Messages:
    1,284
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2000 Limited 4x4 AC
    Some good info in here about parasitic draw tests and my experience with a no start after letting it sit for a few days
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/mysterious-battery-drain.89893/
     
  11. Sep 15, 2021 at 8:16 AM
    #311
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Thanks for the help - I'm going to try knocking on the starter and see if it starts up.
     
  12. Sep 15, 2021 at 8:47 AM
    #312
    SouthPaw

    SouthPaw The headlight guy

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2019
    Member:
    #35992
    Messages:
    1,284
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2000 Limited 4x4 AC
    If you are going to do all the work to gain access it to tap on it, you might as well replace it lol. If you aren't aren't aware, they are located under the intake manifold.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
    bmf4069 likes this.
  13. Sep 15, 2021 at 9:11 AM
    #313
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    AAA guy just came and helped me out - he couldn't get to the starter (finding out now how oddly hidden it is) but was 99.9% sure it's a bad starter. I'm gonna try and knock this one out myself
     
    bmf4069 likes this.
  14. Sep 15, 2021 at 9:21 AM
    #314
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Looks like Oreilly's has starters for $99. He said a brand new one would cost $222 and that he always recommends just getting the re-manufactured ones because it has OEM parts that will never go bad. Thoughts?
     
  15. Sep 15, 2021 at 9:31 AM
    #315
    crewmaxlmt

    crewmaxlmt How dare you!

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2020
    Member:
    #54795
    Messages:
    891
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    scott
    PNW
    Vehicle:
    2020 Crewmax Limited
    If the starter is where I think it is, I would go with the OEM for more money.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2021 at 9:36 AM
    #316
    N84434

    N84434 In the Frozen Tundra

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2020
    Member:
    #41580
    Messages:
    1,087
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Milwaukee WI.
    Vehicle:
    2001 Limited TRD
    bmf4069 and Lil Steve like this.
  17. Sep 15, 2021 at 9:44 AM
    #317
    Lil Steve

    Lil Steve Living the dream

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2020
    Member:
    #45041
    Messages:
    724
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Gilbert, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2002 Tundra SR5 Access Cab 2WD V8
  18. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:04 AM
    #318
    shifty`

    shifty` One great big festering neon distraction

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2020
    Member:
    #48239
    Messages:
    19,853
    ATL
    Vehicle:
    '06 AC Limited V8/4WD
    (see signature for truck info)
    With how difficult it is to get the starter, get OEM. Don't dick around with aftermarket or reman non-OEM. You don't want to need to go in there again if it fails.

    Highly recommend testing voltage at alternator and at battery with nothing draining. I hate this guy, but he gives good advice on batteries and how to test for parasitic draw. And almost forgot - if you have an aftermarket OBDII diagnostic thingy installed, take it out. They're known to cause all kinds of issues if left in all the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC--MLNIbik
     
    thefish712[OP] likes this.
  19. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:12 AM
    #319
    03SR5

    03SR5 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2020
    Member:
    #56466
    Messages:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    03 SR5 ACC
    All Stock

    If it was me, I'd bring it back to the shop that did the work and let them replace it for you on their dime. You certainly paid enough for the work done. They should stand behind it, especially since they replace the starter.

    If they refuse I would ask for the receipt of the OEM part they used to replace it so you can bring it the dealer yourself for a replacement.

    I have a feeling if they did replace the starter, they probably used a cheapo one that was likely inferior to the one that would have come with it.
     
  20. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM
    #320
    bmf4069

    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Member:
    #18880
    Messages:
    7,366
    Gender:
    Male
    TX
    Vehicle:
    02 AC sr5 4wd v8
    It's really not that bad; don't let these guys scare you. You can get the intake off in 2 hours working slowly. I've had mine off enough I'm pretty sure I could get it in 45 minutes.

    20180908_131550.jpg
     
  21. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM
    #321
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    I'll be honest,,, this looks like something I do not have the tools for. The AAA guy said it's definitely not the alternator (makes sense upon further listening). And I'm going to replace the battery since it's under warranty
     
  22. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:34 AM
    #322
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Yup! I feel confident in doing this job.

    Now it's just a matter of whether or not the shop that replaced the engine will do it for me all for free parts included
     
  23. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:35 AM
    #323
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Yeah, sounds like I owe them a call. But when I talked to them before, it doesn't sound like they replaced the starter(?) It wasn't mentioned
     
  24. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:35 AM
    #324
    bmf4069

    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Member:
    #18880
    Messages:
    7,366
    Gender:
    Male
    TX
    Vehicle:
    02 AC sr5 4wd v8
    It's just basic hand tools to get to it. Couple extensions, and a torque wrench. An intake gasket for good measure.
     
  25. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:39 AM
    #325
    crewmaxlmt

    crewmaxlmt How dare you!

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2020
    Member:
    #54795
    Messages:
    891
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    scott
    PNW
    Vehicle:
    2020 Crewmax Limited
    I wouldn't listen to the AAA guy. Take your time a properly test the battery and the alternator, and make sure that you check the alternators voltage throughout the RPM range. For the battery, there are plenty of places that can load test it for you; replace it if questionable.
     
  26. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:40 AM
    #326
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    I meant that I don't have the tools to test voltage/etc. Switching out the starter I feel confident about.
     
  27. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:42 AM
    #327
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    AAA guy tested the battery and it came back as a poor battery. Whether or not it is, it's under warranty so I may as well replace it.

    As for testing the alternator, what is required to do that? Is it something AAA would do?
    Thank you
     
  28. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:42 AM
    #328
    bmf4069

    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Member:
    #18880
    Messages:
    7,366
    Gender:
    Male
    TX
    Vehicle:
    02 AC sr5 4wd v8
    Ohhhh. Gotcha. Yeah, if you go the starter route you can always ask us for help. And post pics. We like pics. Like, a lot.
     
  29. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:44 AM
    #329
    bmf4069

    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2018
    Member:
    #18880
    Messages:
    7,366
    Gender:
    Male
    TX
    Vehicle:
    02 AC sr5 4wd v8
    That'd be autozone, O'Reillys, etc.
     
  30. Sep 15, 2021 at 10:47 AM
    #330
    thefish712

    thefish712 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2020
    Member:
    #42098
    Messages:
    166
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Fish
    Okay, good deal. Only issue there is I can't move the truck haha
     

Products Discussed in

To Top