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Need new Router

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Berdine, Feb 19, 2020.

  1. Feb 19, 2020 at 5:37 PM
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    How's the Tp link deco M5?

    Checked a few 5g speeds highest was 113.4 / 11.2

    Can't get 5g in master cause it's at the other end of the house, that's why the roku takes forever to connect and goes pixelated only connects to 2.4

    I have spectrum 200mbs looking at my account
     
  2. Feb 19, 2020 at 5:40 PM
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    I like abomb60 suggestion.
     
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  3. Feb 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM
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    What mesh system are you using?
     
  4. Feb 19, 2020 at 6:21 PM
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    Holy crap, USA internet speeds are amazing. Here in Canada I am stuck with 50Mbps down and 10Mbps up...... and they charge $80 bucks plus tax per month.

    you guy are very lucky to get those speeds.
     
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  5. Feb 19, 2020 at 6:31 PM
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    We've got the Asus RT-AC86U and we couldn't be happier. There's 11 computers in the house, two for intense gaming (my sons), one server (hosts gaming, ftp, etc.), several other desktops, multiple laptops, an HTPC, tablets, phones and more.

    We've tried almost everything here - including the Nighthawk series, and this has been by-far the best for us. Everybody's experience is different, but this does everything we need better than anything else we've used.

    My 2c.
     
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  6. Feb 19, 2020 at 7:19 PM
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    ^^^^ Dude my public skool edjumacashun no can comprendo!:goingcrazy::goingcrazy:^^^ Short bus english please!!
     
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  7. Feb 19, 2020 at 7:27 PM
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  8. Feb 19, 2020 at 7:54 PM
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    That's from a speed test from your device correct?
    Unfortunately that was the short bus english version! At least for this former network engineer/architect :(
     
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  9. Feb 19, 2020 at 8:08 PM
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    Yup $80/month here will get you almost gigabit speed up and down if Verizon Fios is available in your area (I guess for you that's closer to $105/month CAD). And the nice part is it's easily for the carriers to increase speed without replacing all the fiber optic cabling (well within reason for the foreseeable future).

    I wouldn't be surprised if Fios and Google in the next few years start offering 10 gb/s to the home and i'd think 40 gb/s and eventually 100 gb/s aren't too far behind. The tech all exists today it's just the cost and the max fiber length they can support from their POP to your home. Cisco even has 100 gb/s optics today for carriers that will go 25-40km over single mode fiber. They cost as much as your car ... each but they technology exists and is in use.
     
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  10. Feb 19, 2020 at 8:10 PM
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    If you have the right device configured properly, 'overhead' isn't much of an issue.

    We've got over 30 clients on our Asus Router - an RT-AC86U:

    clients.jpg
    Some wired, most wireless, both bands, etc. and no issues whatsoever. Everything works flawlessly. Even the "Hey Google, turn the downstairs library lights on pink, 30%" type commands - which I find hilarious when my son is hanging out playing games with his friends there.
     
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  11. Feb 19, 2020 at 8:22 PM
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    That's an aftermarket (IE not supplied by your ISP) router correct?

    The Fios routers are exceptionally under powered and won't handle probably more than 15-20 active devices ... at least the one I have. Looking at my Ubiquiti dashboard it looks like I have 35 active clients (both wired and wireless) but that doesn't account for about another 12 which are on the Fios router WiFi (those are the Amazon Echo's, Doorbell & IOT appliances like my fridge, dishwasher and oven) and some stuff is off right now like the TV, some iPads & gaming consoles.

    From my experience an under powered router in this case won't cause the OP's issue. It's more of the "why do I have to reboot my damn router every X days?". This is when you need to remove stuff the router has to do or get a better router.

    EDIT: I'd also love to get rid of my Fios router and toss it in the trash but it's not possible. The router also provides the protocol necessary for the coax connected set top boxes to work (MoCA) and gives them things like the channel directory, pay per view, etc. I could move it in behind my firewall and have it just act as a MoCA gateway for those devices but I haven't done that yet for a variety of reasons.
     
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  12. Feb 19, 2020 at 9:28 PM
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    Yes, definitely aftermarket. Here in Canada all routers supplied by ISP's are crap. It's best to disable the router feature of whatever they give you and use your own, especially if you want WiFi to work. I've got ours in the lower level of a 2200 sq foot house, and it does the whole house fine. I usually get ~600Mbps wireless speeds on a laptop on another floor at the opposite side of the house. It also works fine in the detached garage which is a very large yard away from the rest of the house.
     
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  13. Feb 20, 2020 at 2:56 AM
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    X2 :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Feb 20, 2020 at 2:59 AM
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    :rofl::rofl:
     
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    Is anyone running the Google Nest wifi system? If so let me hear your thoughts :D
     
  16. Feb 20, 2020 at 3:14 AM
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    I also have 100' cat 5 cable between the router and modem. Would that slow it down?
     
  17. Feb 20, 2020 at 3:35 AM
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    As others have stated, Ubiquiti all the way. If you can run an ethernet cable to each one you put in then it's even better. They are powered by POE so you can place them almost anywhere. The mesh setups are easy but you cut your bandwidth in half with every mesh router you plug in. Ignore or better yet don't even turn on the 2.4 if you don't have to and focus on the 5ghz spectrum. The channel overlap on 2.4 is terrible anymore, especially in neighborhoods. With only 3 non overlapping channels on 2.4 and today's long range signals being broadcast by everyone, it's like trying to make a phone call in a stadium.
     
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    Cat 5 would limit it. Cat5e or even Cat6 would be ideal.
     
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    A good start is the Ubiquiti Dream Machine. You can see it here:
    https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-dream-machine

    It’s pricey but it’s an all in one device that’s expandable with more wired or mesh access points later as needed.

    Ubiquiti uses a controller to build and manage your network. With this you have a lot of control over what goes on. It’s built into the dream machine and you would access it using your computer. It’s much like the setup of a normal router.

    Another, less expensive option is to simply purchase one of their Wireless Access Points and connect it to your router. This may seem pointless since both devices are similar but they’re different. Your current router most likely handles the routing (hence the name router) and broadcasts WiFi as well. The Ubiquiti Access Point in this case is strictly a WiFi broadcaster.

    This setup would be:
    ISP (Modem)>Your Router>Ubiquiti AP
    Your router would have its WiFi function turned off as the WiFi will be handled by the Ubiquiti AP. A controller for the Ubiquiti AP will still need to be set up, but this is easily done on your computer while plugged into the router.

    Soooo.....
    Option 1 Dream Machine
    More expensive
    All in one (Gateway, Router, Controller, and Access Point)
    Expandable
    Less Complicated

    Option 2 Access Point Only
    Less expensive
    Strictly an Access Point
    Requires existing equipment to be set up accordingly
    Expandable
    Controller will need to be saved on a computer

    I know it’s a bit much but I hope this helps.
     
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    With Cat5 nothing can be faster than 100Mbps, so it's definitely slowing you down. 100' isn't losing much, but it's not ideal.

    We rewired my house with Cat6 a few years ago - it makes an incredible difference with all my wired devices being fully gigabit capable.
     
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