Interesting informed take on the Tundra Recall

It is just a supplier issue, the people who have been milling and machining the blocks for Toyota for the 3.4 liter non hybrid mill. It is funny how people jump to conclusions and think it is a larger quantity than it is or how the Hybrid might be affected. My truck has been flawless to 18k miles and I have an early 23 build. I think this will be addressed by Toyota and until then you should just wait and see. We should have more information on the total numbers and the actual recall when notices go out by the end of July.

 

Can you help me understand the reason that I do nothave the engine recall notice on my app?

As the screenshot says, my truck was ordered in 02/023, and the door sticker says manufactured on 05/23...delivery date was 05/25/2023.

 

I’ve seen a few vids on YT about failing trans. Is that really a thing now?

 

the notices and app will be updated by the end of the month. July 24 is the timeframe I have been seeing but I am not sure if only certain model numbers are affected.

 

Is this a Gen3 Tundra? You have had it a year and a half, how many miles? Hard to imagine some items were not covered by warranty. There must be a back story.

 

I think yours is newer and got the better cleaning treatment and maybe the newer bearings? Not too sure but your build date looks like you missed the debris party!

 

I see. Thanks for the info.

I bought the tundra as towing vehicle for my camping trailer (7.5 x 18). I chose this setup over a Sprinter van because it can sit and sleep more people. But now I'm researching on different cargo vans again because my wife is not able to drive the current setup and this engine issue hasn't helped either.

I don't have my rose-colored glasses on anymore after watching long-term reviews of sprinters, promasters and transits. But I'm wondering if I should make a move before July 24, for better trade-in value, since even the 1 remaining recall on risk of fire has already de-valued the truck. 1st world problems, I know.

 

There have been a number of hybrid failures reported on this site and the spreadsheet. Toyota themselves say they have no idea how many of the recalled units are actually affected and that tested "good" engines also showed bearing damage. They also say the hybrid still has motive power upon gas engine failure, so that is why they were not included in this recall, not that they aren't subject to failure.

So clearly the issue is bigger than the current failures, clearly hybrids are failing, but also it is very likely that the total number of affected units will be much lower than the roughly 100k recalled. On top of that, there have been some failures outside the recall dates, but those numbers seem to be at a much lower incident rate compared to the recalled units at the same mileage/age.

I think it is odd that there is clear information that hybrids are failing, Toyota admits they don't even know how far the problem goes, but people deny it. I do think the large majority will have engines that are not affected, but tell the hybrid owners that have had failures that you think it is funny.

 

Your vehicle is not part of this recall.

Read the NHSTA documents here:https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2023/TOYOTA/TUNDRA/PU%252FEC/4WD#recalls
Here is the scope covered:

 

@topdec if you start looking at trades, you might be hit with some lower values for your Tundra. Like many have tried. Your truck might not be included in the recall but the news of the recall will just pull the values down.

Sales are down and buyers will be checking reviews and eventually find this recall and lump all the Gen 3's together. To make matters worse, dealers wont want the truck or wont give you a fair trade value.

I am with you on the towing aspect, which is why we got ours. Towing our 22' trailer all over the place was the plan. My wife will not set foot in it now. She doesn't want to risk of hurting someone else. So we are in a holding pattern.

Over the next few months, I will continue to keep the battery charged and move it around the yard so the grass doesn't grow through it

Keep us informed if you head down the dark "trade in" tunnel!

 

This is the first time I've seen this. Thanks for letting me know.

Initially, I had a problem believing that the issue would only affect trucks build <= 02/2023 since they have not changed the design.

But it seems like, based on the screenshot below, that the issue could have been about having too big of a bearing and/or being torqued down too tight?

 

Toyota Recalls Certain Model Year 2022-2023 Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX Vehicles - Toyota USA Newsroom

what part of gasoline only do you not understand? clearly you DO NOT have a clue as to what you are talking about so much mis information.

 

@TRDoffroadPRO Have a look at Part 573 Safety Recall Report 24V-281. On the NHTSA site.

Hybrids can have engine failures too, but the hybrid drive can help you get out the traffic a bit better than not having it, so they were excluded from the safety recall.

No need to jump on someone but rather just help correct the info! We are all in this together.

 

Point is I’ve maybe spent $3K on my MDX during those 5.5 yrs on maintenance (dealer did all the work except brakes), and put on almost 220K kms. No steering rack. No alt. No buggered HVAV doors, etc.
Agree on rust, but really the only parts affected by that were the brake dust shields. I won’t mention the rust repair I just completed on the front crossmember. Go to my build thread to see what a mess that was. The frame/crossmember design is pi$$ poor. Also, had a look at the frame rails while futzing with the exh. Filled with dirt/sand/debris. I really didn’t pay any attention to the frame when we purchased it as the truck had been under coated quite well, but was still shocked to see it wasn’t boxed all the way. Damn, my LX has a fully boxed frame, and so did the 79 IH Traveler I bought in 2020. C’mon Toyota…

 

so this is the current information.

 

I went to NHSTA and downloaded all the files that were posted there and this document was one of them.

I think we need to keep in mind that this is not a mechanical recall but a safety recall. If Toyota was just going to fix all the engines affected out of the kindness of their hearts, we would probably throw a parade!

My speculation on this is that Toyota didn't want the hybrids included because this could undermine their hybrid program moving forward. But that's just my guess.

 

NHSTA documentation is the only documentation. Everything else on this board is speculation, internet engineering and wishful thinking. Oh, and don't forget hindsight.

 

Funny Toyotas Tacoma ad campaign tagline was "born from invincible" just watched the TFL Tacoma failure interview and the front auto diff load exceeded the safety margin by 1.7 percent have a very bad feeling that Toyota USA has been taken over by the bean counters and senior management. Getting really tired of the whole situation from the seat trim to the gas tank, and the engine issue

 

Why do I see shades of Boeing here? Sad.

 

I can understand the difference between a failure and a safety recall. As I already stated, Toyota reported that hybrids have motive power, so they can get to safety. They don't say that hybrids aren't subject to engine failure. And again, as reported in multiple places, a number of hybrids have had failures.

 

Why on earth did you pay for anything? Do they not have warranties in Canada? Or are you talking about an older Tundra?

edit: just saw the other comment saying this is a 2007 Tundra you're talking about.

This is why people go fucking wild over misinformation.

 

Tundra is 07. Got it with 250K kms.

 

Right so literally nothing to do with what is going on with 3rd gen engines. Gotta make that clear before someone makes a youtube video using your anecdote.

 

I am looking at picking up a 96 GMC half ton for my sister and expect that it will have a laundry list like @Canman has shown here. Sort of expect this sort of stuff on an old vehicle and in a few more years, you can get vintage or collector plates

 

Hard to blame Toyota for issues with a truck with that amount of kms. No idea how the prior owners treated it maintained it or the environment it operated in. And a lot of the repairs you note are wear items, so you expect some of it after being in service for 17+ years. Although the 07 was the first model year for the 2nd gen, so they had a lot of improvements in future years. Giving up on a brand based on the quality of a used purchase is one way to go I guess. A better way is to do a prepurchase inspection, and buy used trucks with good service history.

I bought a POS used truck when I was 16 and didn't know any better, and quickly learned the value of good maintenance/service history and a good inspection prior to purchase. I've had amazing success with used Toyota's, but have done a very extensive PPI (from a private mechanic I trust, not a canned b.s. inspection from a Toyota dealer).

 

You do realize that the Hybrid motors are manufactured via a different process than their gas block motors. If the Hybrids had experienced the same problem that the regular gas engines would have then they would be under recall as well. They are not so it will be interesting to see if they become part of the recall later.

 

where what places, where are those failures? I would love to know. Links or you know making stuff up

 

Pretty much asked and answered I think that hybrids retain enough locomotion to keep from being swatted into outer space by the Mack Truck tailgating you. Hence not part of the safety recall. Engine may still go boom boom.

 

That is stupid along with the Toyota wanting to protect the Hybrid technology. If the Hybrid was experiencing the same failure rates as the iForce 3.4 liter then they would be under recall they are NOT. Not only that it appears that Toyota's own website has issues a recall for the iForce gasoline 3.4 liter motor which is correct. It could be added later but for now nothing you are stating is factual and it appears as more or less another pile on vindictive post about 3rd gens.

Oh, and I just read through the engine failure thread and came up with one TRD Pro engine failure. The others appear to be hearsay and my brother's uncle's cousin kind of stuff. The other some dude crashed his hybrid 1794 and then started experiencing all kinds of issues with it.

Go figure right, the rest of them are all SR-SR5s, limiteds and the like with a lot of miles on them mostly.