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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by LT75, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Mar 26, 2019 at 9:09 AM
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    Mid travel fox 2.5 coilovers 2.0 real shocks shims 295 70 18 trail grapplers pro accessories 32in light bar blacked out bed cover sway bar Moto metal 970 18x9
    I’m running Fox 2.5 with resi 700lb spring. No bumper tho. Mine are the factory series extended travel ones. I’ve had 0 issues ride is like butter easy install.out of the box I had 4in or more of lift. So there is plently of adjusting and lift with the ones I have.
     
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  2. Mar 27, 2019 at 12:54 PM
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    Get these installed yet?
     
  3. Mar 27, 2019 at 8:22 PM
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    Not yet. Waiting for leafsprings to come in
     
  4. Apr 7, 2019 at 7:02 PM
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    2 5/8 inches of lift right out of the box. Only had time to do the passenger side today though. Much harder than I though. Looking good so far though

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  5. Apr 13, 2019 at 9:43 AM
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    Front and rear bumpers, ICON stage 1, Zone UCA's, Custom made airbag mounts with firestone bags, Body mount chop, ICON progressive rear leaf pack 1 inch lift, OME greasable rear leaf shakes & bushings, 295x70x18 Toyo Open Counrty ATII, URD Maf calibrator, K&N Intake tube w/ OEM Airbox, AFE Trans Temp and AFR Guage w/ Lotek guage pod, leer 100XQ with leer locker, Mangnum RT steps, and Trail Ridge tow mirrors.
    I just put the 700lb coils on my ICON's as SDHQ mentioned you do lose a little adjustability with the stronger coil. I got the tech data from Eibach and the 700lb coils will decrease the amount of thread shown by 5/16 the of an inch
     
  6. Apr 13, 2019 at 9:47 AM
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    Icon 3.5/3 lift, 20” KMC XD wheels on 285/65/20’s.
    So a 1-3/4” thread max basically
     
  7. Apr 13, 2019 at 9:51 AM
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    1" of exposed threads is max preload on the Icon coilovers with the Eibach 700lb springs. Icon's 600lb factory springs have different coil bind, travel, etc than Eibach's 600, so you cant compare them. We have already done all the math and suspension cycling for you guys :thumbsup:
     
  8. Apr 13, 2019 at 6:49 PM
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    Front and rear bumpers, ICON stage 1, Zone UCA's, Custom made airbag mounts with firestone bags, Body mount chop, ICON progressive rear leaf pack 1 inch lift, OME greasable rear leaf shakes & bushings, 295x70x18 Toyo Open Counrty ATII, URD Maf calibrator, K&N Intake tube w/ OEM Airbox, AFE Trans Temp and AFR Guage w/ Lotek guage pod, leer 100XQ with leer locker, Mangnum RT steps, and Trail Ridge tow mirrors.
  9. Apr 13, 2019 at 6:55 PM
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    Icon 3.5/3 lift, 20” KMC XD wheels on 285/65/20’s.
    No way those were 650lb springs. My truck drove like my grandpas old Lincoln with body roll in turns and leaning when you stepped in. I think something got messed up in their manufacturing plant. Put Tacoma springs on the tundra coilovers or something. 1.75” of lift at the 2” thread market. No way..
     
  10. Apr 13, 2019 at 7:05 PM
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    Front and rear bumpers, ICON stage 1, Zone UCA's, Custom made airbag mounts with firestone bags, Body mount chop, ICON progressive rear leaf pack 1 inch lift, OME greasable rear leaf shakes & bushings, 295x70x18 Toyo Open Counrty ATII, URD Maf calibrator, K&N Intake tube w/ OEM Airbox, AFE Trans Temp and AFR Guage w/ Lotek guage pod, leer 100XQ with leer locker, Mangnum RT steps, and Trail Ridge tow mirrors.
    Well I know the coil bind or block height of the eibach 1600.300.0700s springs is 8.03 inches. The 600lb springs are 7.72 inches with a difference of .31 or 5/16. These are the measurements I used. 2 inches thread exposure minus 5/16 = 1 11/16ths
     
  11. Apr 14, 2019 at 11:53 AM
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    Following. Just purchased 58750’s. Hopefully no issues with my set.
     
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  12. Apr 14, 2019 at 12:50 PM
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    Front and rear bumpers, ICON stage 1, Zone UCA's, Custom made airbag mounts with firestone bags, Body mount chop, ICON progressive rear leaf pack 1 inch lift, OME greasable rear leaf shakes & bushings, 295x70x18 Toyo Open Counrty ATII, URD Maf calibrator, K&N Intake tube w/ OEM Airbox, AFE Trans Temp and AFR Guage w/ Lotek guage pod, leer 100XQ with leer locker, Mangnum RT steps, and Trail Ridge tow mirrors.
    I believe the last 3 numbers detail the spring rate on the ICON coilovers.
     
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  13. Apr 14, 2019 at 12:51 PM
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    I ended up with 2 5/8ths & 3 inches of lift with max threads showing. Will probably end up adjusting for lean. Super smooth and extremely happy with the purchase. Can’t wait to put on the new wheels and tires (method grids with Falken Wildpeaks at3w- 285/75/18). Installed the Icon rxt leafpack as well. These were supposed to be 1.75” above stock but ended up with 2” for some reason (?) which gave it a bit of a rake but I actually don’t mind it at all9F0B6A03-1111-4681-8638-FDDE41FB053D.jpg
     
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  14. Apr 14, 2019 at 12:52 PM
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    Hmm interesting.....I didn’t even notice that mine were the 58750s
     
  15. Apr 14, 2019 at 12:57 PM
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    Nice! I'm replacing a spacer lift that came with the truck.
     
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  16. Apr 14, 2019 at 7:26 PM
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    If anyone is worried about possible coil binding you can take a few of the really tiny zip ties like the ones used in RC cars and tie them around a few of the coils. If your coils contact eachother they will break or deform letting you know that coil bind is happening.
     
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  17. Apr 15, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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    I just called ICON to confirm everything again because of our discussion, 1 inch max thread showing is the max for the eibach 700lb coil. SDHQ you were right.
     
  18. Apr 15, 2019 at 3:53 PM
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    So me being a SeaBee in the Navy I took my original ICON 650lb springs over to the mech shop and compressed them down to measure the block height. Which is 7.83 inches the 700 lb eibach coils are 8.02 inches making a difference of .2 inches. I added .05 to equal a quarter inch for error. So if the original springs could have 2 inches of threads above the collar, theoretically you have a max of 1 3/4 with the 700lb springs. I am going to replace the factory lower bump stops with larger ones for extra safety. I am assuming the one inch max thread showing is to allow for any error to allow extra space.
     
  19. Apr 15, 2019 at 10:53 PM
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    How many inches of thread do you have on driver and passenger side? What’s max thread showing?
    Waiting on my shipping and can’t wait to install. Want to get it right the first time.
     
  20. Apr 15, 2019 at 11:47 PM
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    A little of this and a little of that. Its pretty run of the mill.
    @sdhq_offroad and/or @Icon_Adrian

    Is there a coil available yet for the 3.0 either thru you or even directly from Eibach in the 700# variety?
     
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  21. Apr 16, 2019 at 12:39 PM
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    No and it there won't be. Making a 700lb spring for the 3.0 will net no additional lift with available preload vs the 600.
     
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  22. Apr 16, 2019 at 1:14 PM
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    A little of this and a little of that. Its pretty run of the mill.
    I’m less concerned about lift and more curious if it’d handle the weight better. I have the Tundra conversion on my Land Cruiser and the 600# spring makes my front end feel too soft. Is my only option valving then?
     
  23. Apr 16, 2019 at 1:52 PM
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    I added larger lower bump stops as added security to prevent coil bind. I have 1 1/4 inches of thread showing in the driver's side and 13/16 inches of thread showing on the passenger side. The truck sits dead level left to right with 7 inches of clearance between my Toyo 295/70/18 tires and the wheel well.
     
  24. Apr 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM
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    Valving will only control the shock more, it won't correct ride height or give more ride height.
     
  25. Apr 16, 2019 at 2:06 PM
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    So everyone knows I did the math and calculations for my vehicle and they do not coincide with ICON's recommendations. However I am comfortable due to changing out the lower bump stops the limit upward travel and I do not desert race or haul butt off road. I live in Oregon and drive logging roads while hunting and fishing. If there are huge bumps and ruts I go slow!!

    The eibach spring I installed are part #
    1600.300.0700S

    The bump stops are from wheelers offroad
    Part # WHE01SUPERBUMKIT
     
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  26. Apr 16, 2019 at 10:00 PM
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    Both sides have 2 inches showing. I believe that is the max you can go.
     
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  27. Apr 16, 2019 at 11:08 PM
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    A little of this and a little of that. Its pretty run of the mill.
    Again, I don’t care about ride height. I’m happy with how the truck sits. The shocks just feel too soft. Almost sloppy. I want it to be firmer and handle big hits better.
     
  28. Apr 17, 2019 at 3:08 AM
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    The 600lb springs made my truck feel like an old Lincoln town car. It was rolling into turns and would dip as you got in the truck. Felt sloppy to drive as you put it.
     

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