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I have a 2004 tundra 4x4 limited w rotting frame

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  1. May 13, 2019 at 4:42 AM
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    There's a lot of incorrect information on this.

    04-06 trucks never had a recall. It was a limited service campaign. The terms were the CRC coating if the frame had no perforations or a new frame if perforations were found larger than 10mm. Eligibility was 12 years from the original purchase date. Once the coating or frame was done the campaign was satisfied, it was a one time either or affair.

    The 00-03 trucks had a recall for the rear crossmember only BUT if there wasn't enough structure left to attach a new crossmember the entire frame is replaced.

    That is why there are still older trucks receiving new frames because a recall has no time limit.

    It sucks but that's what it is. The early 2nd gen trucks are in the same boat, service campaign but no recall.
     
  2. May 13, 2019 at 4:55 AM
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    We have a first gen. Sequoia that Toyota inspected last year or so ago and said was fine. It was not part of the recall however. Shortly after they sent a letter stating they would clean and rustproof the frame anyway. They did so and it has been great.
    My point, and please don't take this wrong, is that the truck (yours) is 15 years old. At what point do you think Toyota is responsible for rust? You live in the rust belt and the factory warranty expired years ago. If I buy a 1996 Ford F150 with rusted out fender wells, I would not expect Ford to fix this. Metal rusts eventually. I think Toyota did an EXCELLENT job on their recall and went above and beyond what they had to do.
    Jerry
     
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  3. May 13, 2019 at 4:57 AM
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    If Toyota had rotted frames issues on previous models like 2000 to 2003 and later models like the 2007 and 2008 and why not 2004 to 2006? That sounds criminal to me. Toyota used to use Dana Corp frames but figured they would save a couple hundred bucks for each truck and use inferior frames from China. They are replacing rotted Chinese frames with Dana Corp frames now. Trying to save a couple hundred dollars for each truck costs Toyota over 4.3 billion dollars for this problem and had to inspect 1.5 million trucks. Toyota's model is Let's Go Places how the hell can you go anywhere with a rotted frame. And if any Yahoo out there is trying to defend Toyota with their cost cutting practices, then THEY are the issue as well !
     
  4. May 13, 2019 at 5:00 AM
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    and let's see how long it takes for your Sequoia to rot out.
     
  5. May 13, 2019 at 5:05 AM
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    Also so if Toyota advertises that their trucks will last for 15 years and 200,000 miles before the frame rots out then let's see how many people buy Toyota Tundras and tacomas. I've had over 5 Toyotas in 20 years .I never had a frame rot issue until the last two trucks that I bought. I have recorded voice conversations with toyoya employees that sprayed my truck in 2014 saying that Toyota really screwed up and used Chinese frames instead of Dana corp frames so please don't try to JustifyToyota's actions! Do your research and look at all the people that are struggling with the rotted frame issues that cannot get their trucks fixed!
     
  6. May 13, 2019 at 5:07 AM
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    sounds like Jerry works for Toyota
     
  7. May 13, 2019 at 5:44 AM
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    No Jerry is a happy Toyota owner that has 2 toyotas with no rust and knows how to inspect a vehicle before I buy one. You bought a rusted out truck and want someone else to pay for your mistake. Did your frame rust out during the warranty period? Nope. Did Toyota make right with their recall? Yes. They recalled frames that didn't even start to rust until after the warranty was expired.
    That is better than what Ford did to me. 3 year old F250 bought new by me had the rear doors rotting off. Truck never saw salt ever. Ford said wasnt a concern. That's when I bought my Tundra.
    My Sequoia is not going to rust out anytime soon. I ran a boroscope (camera) in its frame before it was cleaned and coated. It looked great and yes I know what to look for. I work with steel all day long in my job.
    Like I said before. How long do you think a manufacture is liable for this. Do you want Goodyear to replace 15 year old dry rotted tires? See how silly this sounds?
    Jerry
     
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  8. May 13, 2019 at 5:49 AM
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    BTW, I did do my research, since I have a Sequoia that I was concerned about when all the media hype hit.
     
  9. May 13, 2019 at 5:49 AM
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    You're trying to compare a 2004 Tundra frame to a 96 Ford F-150 corner panel? Why don't you look at the stats Cherry instead of trying to justify Toyota's actions and practices. Why don't you call the national traffic and highway safety administration and find out about all the rotted frames that they are trying to rectify as I type this .just because you had no prior experiences with Toyota does it mean hundreds if not thousands of other Toyota owners haven't
     
  10. May 13, 2019 at 5:51 AM
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    And you want to compare fifteen-year-old tires to a rotted frame? get a grip
     
  11. May 13, 2019 at 5:55 AM
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    and this is a Toyota Tundra Solutions website not a Sequoias solutions forum.sequoias are for women driving their kids to school and soccer practice
     
  12. May 13, 2019 at 5:55 AM
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    No, I'm saying metal rusts and doesn't last forever. I have owned more than 2 toyotas in my life time. I have experience with them as well. Maintenance goes a long way too. Leave carbon steel sit in saltwater and see how long it lasts vs the same carbon steel in the desert.
    Yes it sucks. But it's reality.
    I'm not attacking you, but you seem to be taking my first post way to personally.
    Have a good day. I've got work to do.
    Jerry
     
  13. May 13, 2019 at 5:57 AM
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    Tundras and Sequoias share many common components including the majority of the frame. And yes my wife drives my kids to soccer and so do I. I guarantee you, I'm not a soccer Mom though. Let's try to keep this civil, or you can be removed from this site. Any of us can be. I'm not your enemy here, just stating some facts and some opinions.
    Jerry
     
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    There's 97-06 Jeep Wranglers have rotted out frames and Jeep hasn't offered anything besides "should've washed it better"

    Chevy/GMC 25/3500 have been cracking frames for years and little to no help from them.

    This isn't just a Toyota problem.

    Again it sucks but you're going to run out of money fighting Toyota long before they do.
     
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    I'd put the blame on this mostly on that mechanic in 2015 who said everything looked ok. There's no way that amount of decay set in over the past 3&1/2 years. This is a 15 year old truck you're talking about. You can get upset with Toyota, but for a truck that old, there isn't much they can do. I suspect if that truck had been sprayed starting in the first year of ownership and was given follow up sprays, you could possibly have a case against the company that manufacturers the spray you used. As for going after Toyota, I'm not sure what you expect to happen here. Dodge trucks are notorious for rusting as well. What do people do? The find a different manufacturer to buy from. I apologize if I'm coming across as terse, but again, you're driving an old truck and you live in the Northeast.
     
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    If the frame rot was strictly an age of truck and NE related issue then why did Toyota spray the trucks at all. Wasn’t spraying the trucks an intrinsic admission and understanding there was an issue and associated liability. Toyota doesn’t spend $$ unless there is a reason. Of course I am biased since I own one of these turds but I think it was a half ass attempt at covering up an expensive issue to fix. I agree I should have taken a better look but tough to do with a remote purchaser like me. In case my bad purchase doesn’t mean that the frames don’t have a problem as evidenced by Toyota spraying them.
     
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    It's a gamble for them, it was a stop gap to hopefully fend off another class action lawsuit. They can say "we tried but you know salt rusts things" coupled with the fact that people don't typically own cars for 10+years and hope the problem goes away.

    Details of the LSC are in this link
    https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/MC-10131966-9999.pdf
     
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    Festerw,

    That seems to sum it up. Thanks!

    What would you guys do. Dump it or drive it until it breaks?
     
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    I would dump it but I dont own trucks that old for that long.

    I stopped buying used because I dont like buying someone elses headache

    I worked on cars and trucks in the morning just to get them to start so I could go to work. Rigged them to make it one more day

    It starts fucking up I trade them in for what ever they give me and buy a new one.

    I have AAA in case I get a flat or need a tow.

    I got real lazy after 30 years of wrenching on someone elses junk
     
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    I've seen frames look like that but that are still solid. Take a hammer to it and see if you make any holes. If it doesn't wire brush everything and spray it with something like Eastwood Rust Encapsulator or POR15 then check it up every year.

    If you find a few holes assuming they aren't terrible, weld some plate in and do the same as above after.

    If you find a lot of holes, weigh the cost of doing a frame replacement on your own vs buying a new truck, maybe see if Toyota would throw you a deal on a percentage off of parts if you decide to swap it yourself. Realistically a $10k frame swap is still 1/4 the price of a brand new truck.
     
  21. May 13, 2019 at 12:30 PM
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    I have banged on it. Lots of debris but only one small hole by front cross member. I was going to do just what you suggested. I found some rust converting stuff with good reviews called Cooreseal. $50/gal. I am open to ideas of how to treat inside of square frame.

    The reason I asked is I was going to lift the truck with a rcd lift I already own ($2K)

    Honestly other than the rusty frame the truck is near flawless for age.

    Leaning towards treating it and keeping. I’m sure it will last 4 or 5 more years here in Texas where we don’t have salt on roads.

    Still interested in other opinions.

    Thanks
     
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    For the inside areas, I've not used it but it gets good reviews from the Jeep crowd.

    https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-internal-frame-coating-14oz-aerosol.html
     
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    Looks like that is exactly what I need. Thx.
     
  24. May 15, 2019 at 1:43 AM
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    Yes I brought a 2002 tundra brand new off road package cab with half door silver sky metallic its beautiful truck, I paid cash $27,500. Flew up to Buffalo New York to get the color I wanted back in September 2002 go back to Jersey I have 233,000 miles as of today. (Just shy of the average miles to the moon) I had my frame spray too back in 2014 my mechanic notice this past spring a quarter size hole in frame he said he was a little afraid if I hit a bad pothole something might happen, went back to dealer who sprayed the truck and said to bad truck is 17 years old. I was bummed still drive it around town. Looking into a new one I can't see any other vehicle out there that meets I'm looking for in the truck truthfully I would love to just restore this back to its original looking into seeing if someone's does that full restoration I love the size of this truck we'll see I'll keep you informed
     

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