Finally (maybe) ByPassing the Remote Start turning off when you open the door

Hey guys! Sorry we are not very active on this forum but got a message to check the thread and well, here we are! We're excited about this one too it's very cool to finally bring this to the market as it's been a question asked all the time over the last few years. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask and I will try to answer the best I can.

While we are the only game in town at the moment, we have gotten orders from some of the "others" so I'm sure you will see something in the next few months. There won't be much variation from one to the next TBH the same way there isn't much difference from one to the other with the normal shutdown kits previously available. You remote start the vehicle and then get in and drive without it shutting down there isn't much to add/change to that process - but we are always open to suggestions Because we sell to so many dealerships our kits all include a 3-year warranty where most others only offer a 1-year or charge additional for a longer warranty. Install wise they will be about the same there won't be much difference there either. Ours is already 100% plug and play so again not a whole lot to improve on as far as that goes.

Referrals from customers and other members is a huge asset to us as we don't do a ton of advertising so it is surely appreciated! With that said thanks so much for all the kind words and recommendations but any "official" comments would come from this account.

Again let us know if you have any questions!

 

Great to see you here, and seems much better written than whoever answers the replies through your website, to say it gave me a very sour taste is putting it lightly. I'm not sure the rules on this forum if its special for you as the seller/company but it would be nice to see you make a post to answer questions.

 

LOL You are wrong.

 

please correct me if I'm wrong.

With the module, we'll be able to remote start (by pressing lock 3x), it'll start, but will it shut down after 3mins? and as we go walk up to the truck, will it unlock when we touch the handle or will we need to unlock via the fob? once inside, do we press the start button or anything (my Ram was you get in, you hit the start button), then shift and go, right?

 

The remote start will run for 20 minutes before shutting down if you don't go out to the vehicle. When approaching you can unlock with the handle or the remote and then get in and press the brake no need to touch the start button.

 

Does this also mean we can lock the car when it's running?

 

So once you're in, you just press the brake and put it into gear? Doesn't the current factory remote start only turn on the vehicle but not all of the accessories such as HVAC and lights? Or does this module change what happens when it's remote started?

 

My experience with my OEM remote start is that it will start the truck with the HVAC settings wherever they were left when it was shut off. With the exception of the side view mirror defroster/wiper de-icer, which will only turn on manually. No lights turn on.

 

I agree with that. But with other vehicles that don’t shut off after you touch the door handle, it’s almost like the vehicle is “off” but with the engine running until you get in, press the brake and start button. Then you can put it in a gear since it’s now “on”

 

I'm interested to see how this does over time. I don't currently use the factory auto start feature much due to the poor range from the key fob and the fact that it shuts down when you open a door/unlock it.

I obviously don't expect this kit to increase range, but if it also keeps the truck running when using the app, I may actually sign up for the service and use it

 

I installed the Accessorides remote start a few days ago in a 2021 Tundra with push start. I opted for the model that includes 2 separate long range fobs.
The install took me 4 hours, mainly because I used a friend's shop and didn't know the tool layout, and because it was cold outside and I was in no hurry.
There are 3 connectors behind the glovebox that need swapped, and one to the left of the steering wheel. This one, I was told by their support team, isn't necessary to connect in most Tundras, but since I had removed dash panels already I just did it anyway. No OEM wires are cut, tapped or interrupted. A long-range antenna run is also necessary (for me, up to the rear view mirror). The Accessorides wire harnesses & OEM-cloned connectors are good quality.
I opted for the long range remotes because my factory FOB's telemetry distance is 3-4 feet max from the vehicle, and I routinely park about 300 feet from my house in winter. Of the 2 remotes received, 1 is a 2-way (gives LED confirmation that vehicle started & is running) and the other is just long range. I believe they are made by Cobra.
The factory FOB can also be used using the 3-press of the lock button.
The remote system, when activated, locks all the doors, turns on park lights, and starts. The driver's door is opened by fob/door sensor and the engine stays running. I get in, depress the brake for a few seconds (the radio music is interrupted and the notification "starting..." is displayed on the head unit screen), put it in gear and go. I haven't tested the remote start run time if no door is opened yet. I do know that if I remote start and then unlock & open the driver's door with a key (no fob in range), the engine dies. The same remote can also be used to turn off the motor after being remote started. I also found out that if motor is running from being remote started and the driver's door is unlocked/opened, opening any other door kills the motor.
The system came with a engine hood safety switch & accompanying bright orange "Warning Equipped with Remote Start" sticker for the engine bay, I passed on the switch but mounted the sticker.
Over all, everything went & is glitch free.
The reason I passed on Toyota's subscription service is the fact their contract specifies they collect all types of personal and vehicular use data and can sell it to any 3rd party...including insurance companys.
Hope this helps someone contemplating their options.

 

This is great information thank you. I too am looking into this for the same reasons, my remote has to be close as well and sometimes i can click it three times and it wont start. Did you opt for the app remote start option?

 

I went with the cell phone one, that gives me unlimited range, the range from the factory remote is not ideal, but it works from the house to the driveway. The install was EASY.

 

A couple of questions.

Instructions say: "unlock the vehicle with the remote get in and push on the brake and you are ready to drive". Does this mean you have to press the remote to unlock the door? Or will it unlock normally by placing your hand in the handle with the fob in your pocket?

Will the truck shut off if it is driven away without fob present?

 

You do not have to unlock the door by way of hitting "unlock" on the FOB, but you can. You do need the FOB to gain entry, and yes the handle sensor works just like it always does. You can not drive away without the FOB because that's the only way to gain entry after remote starting. In my original post/report I mention I intentionally kept the factory FOB out of range after a remote start and unlocked my driver's door via valet key...engine died.
One other thing I have discovered...I mentioned that I did not install the included engine hood safety switch. Well, I had no idea that there is one already factory installed within the hood latch mechanism. I did a remote start, and then opened up the hood release from inside the cab...my engine died when I pulled the release lever. So bottomline, Accessorides has tied in to the factory electronics and safety mechanisms very thoroughly.
As noted previously, this system costs a premium upfront, but I maintain my autonomy from Toyota's penchant to sell my vehicle and personal data to 3rd parties, and I obtain after-market remote start fobs that have an effective range way beyond my factory FOB's feeble range.

 

Thanks for the detailed response. Sounds like they have really done a good job rectifying what I consider to be a silly problem Toyota could/should never have created in the first place. Have you determined a time limit before an auto shutoff? And does it retain the HVAC settings?

 

Can you lock door while the engine is running?

 

My HVAC settings remain unchanged from last setting. Accessorides states run time is capped to 20 minutes. I haven't tested that.

 

Yup, I checked for you. Remote started, entered via driver's door using handle sensor, got in then locked the door physically at the red door lock lever, unlocked it then locked it again via the door lock electric button. I can lock or unlock the door from inside. Now OPEN any other door or hood and you kill the engine.
Once you make entry during remote start, depressing the brake maintains engine idle but removes remote start safety functions, meaning the vehicle can now be manipulated in any way as if it was started by the regular dash push button start...open & close doors etc.

 

Ok, so say it's running with a/c blasting.

You get out the cab, lock the door from the inside, and walk away, but you can unlock it via fob or the touch handle? but only driver's door?

Can you lock it by tapping the door handle? and walk away?

I want that function for the dog, the ability to keep truck running while he's in the truck.

 

Using your scenario, if you are already inside your remote-started a/c blasting cab, just press the brake and you will have full functionality of all doors and lock options as you normally do.
Since I travel with my dog, I know what you're asking, and as you know, our truck won't let you lock the doors from outside using handle or fob while running. With one exception... and that is to use a door key. I use it all the time when running errands but want to leave my dog inside with the a/c going.
The fob's valet key is too fragile for this purpose, so a "regular" size no-chip key is needed. My door lock is the so-called laser cut type. Toyota dealers will cut a key onto Toyota blank part number 69515-OK139 via your VIN (it's a pricey key). Non-Toyota blank (cheaper but hard to find) is ILCO LXP90-P. I had a local Ace Hardware cut it for $15.

 

I just completed my installation of Accessoride's remote start for my 2020 push button start. As others have mentioned, install was very easy, the package came with a paper packet of instructions with easy to follow pictures. I already had my dash torn apart for other things I was installing so installation was a total breeze. Probably took me 10 minutes. Additionally, I came to find out the accessorides unit was compatible with the Carlink remote LTE unit I previously had installed on 12VoltSolutions key start for my late 2021 (RIP). So I was able to continue my existing remote subscription and unlock/start from my phone and apple watch, which was one of my favorite mods on the 2021.

Overall I am very happy with the installation and functionality (Disclaimer: it has been installed one day so far)

 

I like being a tease sometimes. It Works! It Works! to be released soon.

 

FYI

I have a viper smart start system on my 2021 with push to start. I recently contacted directed's support and asked them about defeating toyota/lexus push to start systems and they said contact your installer.

Well I did that and now my smart start system allows the truck to stay running when the door is opened with a simple re wire. So if anyone else has one of these systems there is hope!

 

I've seen others posts on Facebook comments similar viper systems with no luck at their installer, I do wonder if they have just bypassed Toyota security and only depending on their own, I'm not really a fan of, I rather have all the security possible intact and working as it should, or better, but that is good to hear, perhaps others may have luck there as well. Do you have a video of yours working?

 

I can get a video of it working later today on my way home from work. Yes it seems to me they wired it in just like that would have on say my old 2000 4runner i use to have with a Clifford alarm with remote start. The viper system takes over ignition and starting responsibilities and passes them onto the toyota system once I get in and press the brake. At this time the radio reboots and the lights turn on (auto lights on, in a darkened parking garage) as well as radar detector i have hard wired. Previously I think it just called toyota's remote start routine which killed the motor when the door was opened. I honestly feel like it's not unsecure, i think the Viper system I have is partially an alarm, via the app i can lock, unlock, sound the horn, panic, it also has a blue led mounted on the antenna that is on my windshield that flashes when the car is locked. I have not tested whether it would allow me to leave without the key, i do not think it would as that is when it appears to pass control to the toyota system as soon as the brake is pressed.

I feel like my truck might be one of the first in the wild to work like this, they had to have it all day and were on the phone a lot with directed support. They also mentioned it was good to get this going so they can offer this to their other toyota/lexus clients.

 

Apologies yeah I didn't mean its unsecure but its for sure a different level of security level, which could be better than Toyota honestly I don't know the viper systems, given what you explained yeah its doing a hand off where the viper is controlling your remote start and passing onto Toyota afterwards. There is a bypass for the radio rebooting as well, I'll likely do a write up on it once I go to change out my factory headunit, I'm still torn between a head unit or just putting an ipad and be done.

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/CYQba5owz2M

Here you go

 

So that almost certainly confirms my thoughts, but odd not seeing them offering this more universally.

 

I do not disagree that it is odd that I had to ask the manufacturer directly, who told me to hit up my installer. From my experience with directed, they are one of the original players in car alarms, i believe they are who manufactured clifford alarms back in the day as well. My hardware was not changed just had to pay for a new wiring harness, so they could basically wire it in completely different. I think it was in part laziness that kept it from working this way to begin with possibly. When i first reached out to the installer and mentioned that this problem had been fixed by a couple resourceful people and was curious if viper had figured out a work around. He did not know but said he'd reach out to the manufacturer. I got a call back within 10 minutes and he told me he found instructions on how to do it on directed's support portal. I'm guessing they might have been there all along. I would not even known to ask about directed about this if it was not for this thread that is for certain.