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Everything you need to know about Upper Control Arms (UCA)

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by csuviper, Mar 29, 2016.

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  1. Mar 15, 2018 at 2:42 PM
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    Thanks for posting this.
     
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    Well I’m on the market to buy some UCA but don’t know what to go with my truck has a 6” Rough Country lift any recommendation?
     
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  3. Mar 19, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    What are your alignment #s like? Why do you want UCAs? And, how do you drive your truck? Right off the bat w/o knowing the answers to those questions, I'd say SPC.
     
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  4. Mar 19, 2018 at 10:17 PM
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    @aramirez73 has the same lift I think. Maybe he's got some input?
     
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  5. Mar 19, 2018 at 10:21 PM
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    I'm on market as well, I've heard of the SPC UCAs because they are adjustable...RC 6" lift but apparently I lucked out I bought truck used it came with the lift and who ever installed didn't cut the rear cross member as per instructions from RC website instructions so I could ditch this lift if I wanted to
     
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  6. Mar 19, 2018 at 10:26 PM
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    @831Tun don’t have the numbers on the alignment but I drive my truck on the street and also off road the reson I was asking because my stock UCA bushing are garbage now and a have a lil money to spend so I wanted to change them out
     
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  7. Mar 19, 2018 at 10:36 PM
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    The geometry varies greatly between aftermarket UCAs. Icon for example doesn't have much caster available. Camburg is the other end of the spectrum with tons of caster. Icon does have the Delta Joint which is really cool and I think Total Chaos will have the delta joint next. If you've got a lot of travel you don't want a ball joint to be the limiting factor, but the alternative is a uniball and some people don't like the noise or maintenance of a uniball (I think it's negligible at least where I live, ie no salt on the roads)
     
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  8. Mar 20, 2018 at 11:22 AM
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    @831Tun Wihich ones do you have on your truck?
     
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  9. Mar 20, 2018 at 12:29 PM
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    Right now I've got Icon tubular w/ Delta joint. I'm not happy with my alignment #s though. I'm gonna get rid of these UCAs and go with MCM Fab. I prefer a bit more caster than OEM spec. With the Icons I'm only getting 2* of caster and I've got -1.3* of camber. I've got a friend with the same UCAs having similar issues with the alignment #s. I want to see ~4* of caster and +.1 camber. These are the #s that I prefer, others may prefer something else.
     
    831Tun, Mar 20, 2018
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    It's interesting to study photos of the different UCAs. They're basically a "u" shape. Look that the rear leg of that U. You'll see most bend or hook forward. Then look at Camburg, you'll see it's actually angled back. Look at MCM, it's pretty straight. TC, Icon and most of the rest hook forward.
     
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    @831Tun where do you off reading in Santa Cruz?
     
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  12. Mar 20, 2018 at 1:10 PM
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    No offroading here. We go to Hollister, Prairie City, there are a bunch of places in the Sierras and we're off to Death Valley in 6 days for a 4 day trip.
     
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    It never ends does it?
    You're making the right decision in regards to the MCM UCAs: I now have 4.5 +caster and .2-.3 +camber. Previous suspension setup was as best 2.2-5 +caster. The difference between the two is nights and day; you're going to love it.
     
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  14. Mar 20, 2018 at 1:41 PM
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    @831Tun just looked them up there not bad in price either. Well I’m trying to decide what to go with all I know I’m ready to get them before taking her out of town next month.
     
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    My buddy @dcsleeper408 has 'em and I talked with him about his #s. I also chatted with someone else about TC bc they're very popular but he didn't get the caster #s. I've already had Camburgs. Matt does the RnD for ADS, I feel confident he's got a clue.;) Thanks for letting me know that you are also getting the #s I'm looking for.
    I spoke with him last week and he didn't have any available and won't have any 'til next month (usually means 2 months for him LOL). He's really busy, moving his shop etc. But it's well worth the wait IMO.
     
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    Well I was like TC,Icon and now the MCM but now I’m just like should I wait hummmm
     
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    Well ended up going with the Total Chaos guys just order them now I’m like cant wait to install them.
     
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    You get the heim joints?
     
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  19. Mar 23, 2018 at 10:30 AM
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    The uniball ones on Toytec website
     
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    The ones on post #42?
     
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    @trayday I missed that post but I didn’t get the hemi joint ones.
     
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    I run the TC ones. I have about 3.5 caster on each side. No issues adjusting. Great quality too.
     
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    Do you have drop bracket lift?
     
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    Anybody running the JBA UCAs?
     
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    Caster numbers at +3.
    20171028_145738.jpg
     
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    nope :)
     
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    people on the forum with them seem to like them.
     
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    The heim joints are for a 6"+ bracket lift. I ordered the same ones as you and they didn't work with my 7" lift.
     
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    @trayday i emailed them the other day but there not open weekend. If they didn’t work for you they aren’t working for me I might just need to return and see if they carry the ones with the hemi joints because I don’t see them on there website well Toytec
     
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