Drop bracket mid travel

im sure that price is estimated with getting decent prices on custom fab work, bed cage, spindle gussets, frame bracing, cam tabs, limit straps, and all the other fun stuff..
I would bump those prices up even higher to include bumpers,tires,rims, winch/winches. not only to include all the money that needs to be invested in your recovery/emergency gear alone.

 

Well if we're going to discuss the price of a full build...

 

thats a very generous price range. considering the custom 3" packs+custom frame mounts.

 

I was just curious if that was a DIY price for the LT alone.

And I understand how things can escalate quickly in the price department on a build. That '69 Bronco I posted earlier wasn't cheap to build - and I did everything except the engine machining work myself.

 

maybe we shouldnt.

 

you can probably cheap out on some things with an LT kit-build your own axles, and install all the basic components yourself. you can even cheap out on the fab work. good work goes a long way, most of the bed cages my buddy built, he spends countless hours cycling through the suspension making sure that his customer is getting the upmost travel-down/up. along with all the other fun stuff.

 

Well I didn't include that cost because I'm the only person who has ever done this according to Deaver. Also, I had to do it because of how heavy The Truck is. A traditional LT build doesn't need the wider leafs.

yeah I don't want to LOL

 

With your older setup or your current setup, do you feel comfortable towing?
at least a dual axle trailer with a small passenger car/track car for example.

 

With my current setup I would feel comfortable towing up to 5k or so.

with regular LT leafs probably not. Too much axle wrap. Although I'm just guessing, it would need to be tested

 

this is interesting. when i was speaking to alcan about new packs, i asked them about this while mentioning that i was considering a MT setup on the truck. they told me there would be no need to make a pack that wide. maybe that'll change when i get the truck weighed and pass along those numbers. sometimes this all gets really confusing. fun but confusing.

 

Yeah, it isn't something I would ever do. As cool as the LT setups are, I am not a "go fast" driver. Never have been, never will be. This is just my own curiosity - and a way to bide the time until the gloves get taped up for the next round of trash-talking.

 

He's right, and he's wrong. I could have made regular width packs that worked, but they would hang so damn low they might touch the ground lol

Going wider meant I could make them thinner

 

No. 4" will leave you zero down travel and performance will be shit. 4.5" lifts still use a drop bracket from what I recall.

Keep in mind this conversation is 4wd.

 

ah ha. there it is. finally clicked for me.

 

im sure alcan was thinking SOA type. so they would just stack and stack according to customer needs. For SUA not a good Idea to keep stacking as it hangs lower. 3" wide i would assume alleviates that whole issue, and distributes/handles weight loads much better to a traditional 2.5 SUA kit.

 

Just to clarify, everyone thinks LT truck are only built to go fast. That is very far from the truth. Yes, I bomb trails sometime becuase its fun. But that is actually rare. The majority of the time I am just cruising in comfort. Here are the reasons I went LT in order of importance:

crossing terrain at a much higher average speed aka "getting to camp faster" while still being comfortable.
Increased articulation for better performance on technical terrain.

Thats it. Those are the only reasons. Being able to bomb trails or take jumps is just an added bonus

 

I think a well built/or even moderate built LT kit will serve the tundra well. It keeps the tundra well rounded. Fun in the open, and planted in the slow stuff. For most MT or MT2 setup will do them more justice.

 

the more i use the truck and the more i realize how i want to use it, this is where i need to be. new packs, new rear shocks, rear shock mounts, front secondaries, front bypass mounts, limit straps, bump stops, welding skills. i need a sugar daddy. any volunteers?

 

If I was going to build a tundra "rock crawler", I would do LT front and rear. I would skip the bypasses and bumps. I would raise the inner fenders and do 40's, 5.29 gears and locker, and I would shorten the frame and do a double cab with 5.5' bed

That build would spank any bracket lift all day long

 

Oh boy someone has let all that instagram attention really boost their ego to the point of coming on a board where a large group of well respected members apparently don’t know anything.....and having the audacity to be smug in their replies to boot.

My suggestion keep your condescending remarks to your fan boys... they may take it but some of us are not so inclined.

I’m not going to cherry pick your comments and try and analyze them because I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so.

You do you buttercup... you said it your self it’s your $ do as you please. The OP simply asked about suspension options and he clearly stated multiple times about his intentions. The entirety of this thread agreed on a MT lift for his use and application.

I’ll say this one last time for those who can’t read or listen. I had a BDS for 3 years I wheeled the piss out of my truck. Found it’s limits and upgraded to a superior option which has proven vastly more functional in all situations. Did anyone say that the BDS or any other bracket lift isn’t capable of wheeling ... nope. What we all clearly stated is that there are issues w them that make them weak and inferior in some ways to other setups. Same could be said for LT , MT, spacer lifts etc... there are a lot of people on here w different goals.

 

Damn this thread was interesting!!
Although it does seem pointless to argue bracket lifts against mid or long travel but it was entertaining reading.

 

If I were to build a tundra "rock crawler".....

I would start out by selling the tundra and getting something shorter. But, that is just my preference.

 

That might be a bit much... but I’ll tell you how it goes I have my 25 ft pontoon boat that is dual axle and a 16 ft x 8ft x 7ft enclosed dual axle trailer as well and I will tow w my setup w the LT rear... I’ll let ya know if it’s awful.... worst case I steal my wife’s 16’ 4x4 4runner and tow w that! Lol I’m sure she will love that idea hahahahahaha

 

Ya know the dude who is going SAS shortened tundra will probably do awesome.... yeah the tundra is big and long but compared to something like a 4door rubicon on 40’s or a old bronco or international scout all of which I’ve seen as hard core rock crawlers... I think the tundra isn’t that much bigger if you bob the bed and sas it.

 

even with this setup, you would still be able to take on some good speed when it does open up..

 

John, it’s only a point of discussion as an option the OP mentioned and the pros and cons of every option should be discussed so people can make informed decisions. Just like w LT, people have to realize your truck will be 5-7” wider and it’s double the cost of other lifts... that is a negative to LT.

 

If you were married to the idea of the Tundra - then sure, you could do stuff to make it work. I have seen some wild fab stuff. But, I would just rather start with something smaller and build it up.

 

lol! 4runners got some tug in em.
What made the tow awful? the sag, control, bowing at the hitch?

 

yep. thats the only issue I see with LT, having a wider track with an already wide truck keeps ya on the sidewalls a lot.
BUT it can also be corrected with proper offset/backspaced wheels keeps track width in check a bit, for the jeep-ish trails.

 

Agreed, good information is key!
That dude just kept digging a deeper hole and started throwing insults. It became ridiculous at that point.