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Discussion in 'Detailing' started by T-Rex266, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Aug 14, 2022 at 10:58 AM
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    Danimal86

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    I just used Optima No Rinse for the first time and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong.

    I wanted to use it as a quick detailer like Merilins Magic Elixir (thats my go to), i diluted ONR down to 16:1 (maybe a little bit stronger, just kinda winged it), and it doesn't really seem to work that well. I'm using a cheap sprayer from Sam's Club, but it was really dificult to wipe away. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but it was pretty dificult to get it off. I would have to use two towels, one to do a first wipe and another dry one after to try to buff it off.
    Not sure if i have it not diluted enough, or maybe i'm using too much per pannel (about 1.5 sprays per panel).

    Any advice?
     
  2. Aug 14, 2022 at 4:56 PM
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    Dilution looks right and I always use two towels for sealants, quick detailers, etc. Spray, spread with one same, try and wipe up majority with that towel, then buff with the second towel.

    Were you in the sun? Hot panels? Also did you dilute with distilled water? ONR can help reduce hard water spotting but it isn't a magic elixir. If your water is hard, it'll cause smearing issues.
     
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  3. Aug 14, 2022 at 6:25 PM
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    Have a bottle of ONR never touched it. Did throw down a coat of Hydro2 on the Tesla today. BC6215C7-6D6E-4519-B4E0-9469584AD9C0.jpg
     
  4. Aug 15, 2022 at 5:59 AM
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    I used it first thing in the morning, so it was in the sun but it was pretty cool out still.
    We dont have really hard water, but i only had about a cup of distilled water left, so i used that and topped it off with bottled water.

    Yesterday i used Merlins Magic Elixir (carpro Ech2o and Reset) on the wifes lexus and it just comes off so easily and seems like it did a better job of cleaning and wiping away.

    Maybe i'll dump this batch and get some more distilled water and mix a fresh batch.
     
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  5. Aug 15, 2022 at 6:00 AM
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    @War Machine may be able to chime in on this as well. I know he is a ONR paid sponsor
     
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  6. Aug 15, 2022 at 6:17 AM
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    Which one do you have, the blue one or green one? The green one has the issues you’re experiencing, but I’ve never had that problem with the blue.

    The 16:1 ratio is correct. I do always use distilled water in my mixtures, but I don’t think using regular water would cause your problem.
     
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  7. Aug 15, 2022 at 6:19 AM
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    This reminds me…..my Toyomafia influencer invoice from July is past due.
     
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  8. Aug 15, 2022 at 6:49 AM
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    Its the blue one.

    Its gotta be the sprayer laying down too much product, or i dont have it diluted enough. I think my bottle only hold 26ish oz, and i probably had 3oz of ONR in it.
    I'll try to grab some more distilled water (need to have it on hand anyways) and i'll just not make a full bottle so i can get it just right.
     
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  9. Aug 15, 2022 at 7:49 AM
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    I’ll add it to the list.
     
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  10. Aug 28, 2022 at 6:03 PM
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    Looking to get a pressure washer. What is the best entry level pressure washer for a few hundred bucks?
     
  11. Aug 28, 2022 at 6:53 PM
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    SunJoe SPX3000. I use one "commercially" I guess you can say. Gets used half a dozen times a week for auto detailing, no issues. Perfect GPM for a foam cannon, more than enough PSI for car cleaning (White 45 degree nozzle preferred), and has a great 3 year warranty. Just pickup a 50' hose or a coupler with an extension hose. I've had to replace it twice over the years. Just send them an email and they'll send a replacement after a "troubleshooting" guide comes through. I just tell them I tried it all and get a new one. New one comes, re-register the warranty, good for another 3. The pump "goes out" at around the 2.5 year mark for me every time...it's the damndest thing :monocle:
     
  12. Aug 29, 2022 at 9:54 AM
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    I have the exact same one....no issues
     
  13. Sep 7, 2022 at 9:27 AM
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    What’s the bee’s knees go to for window scratches? Got a decent long one on the rear of the wrangler from what looks like the wiper blade edge or something. Didn’t notice it till I washed the hardtop the other day.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2022 at 9:32 AM
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    For that, carpro ceriglass and rayon pads. Hard to do, hard to finish out clear, very messy.
     
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  15. Sep 7, 2022 at 10:18 AM
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    ^^^^THIS^^^^^....just mask off anything you do not want that pad to hit.....everything but the glass
     
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  16. Sep 7, 2022 at 11:00 AM
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    Thanks gents. Got ‘em ordered
     
  17. Sep 7, 2022 at 3:07 PM
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    After using those, you'll need regular heavy cut compound and polishes with appropriate pads to back the haze down and clear them up. I'd test on an old house window pane if I were you first....it's some rough stuff
     
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  18. Sep 7, 2022 at 3:08 PM
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    Sounds like it's time to use the $50 glass deductible to me.
     
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  19. Sep 7, 2022 at 6:14 PM
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    Yeah, if you've got it and don't have experience glass polishing, then the deductible is well worth it. You're at it in material cost with just a bottle of ceriglass and rayons. Glass polishing is nasty business and never guaranteed. Might get the scratch out, but now you've thinned the substrate too much and it's weak. Or you'll cause scratches with the rayon that are difficult to get out as well. I've never glass polished a client's car...only my own to practice on. Still not proficient enough to tell people I offer it as a service.
     
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  20. Sep 16, 2022 at 3:18 PM
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    Question for leather experts. Had a potential client call with a brand new Jeep Gladiator with saddle leather seats that got a smaller size ink stain. He said from a pen of some sort but not 100% sure...

    He said he tried ISO alcohol with q tip, some meguires leather cleaner with no luck. I don't know anything about new Jeeps and minimal about removing stains from leather.

    I gave him a few ideas that I've heard about but never tried: hand sanitizer, saddle soap, hair spray, steamer but wanted to see if anyone here has any better ideas I can try?

    Going to contact him later today and see if he had any luck a d if not, potentially give it a shot myself.

    I REALLY REALLY don't want to mess these up so I'm hesitant to even try myself, but told him I'd do some digging around.

    Any knowledge is good knowledge, thanks!

    Oh ya, no pics BTW but he said it was smaller than half dollar, my guess is pro a couple few little lines...
     
  21. Sep 16, 2022 at 7:51 PM
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    I mixed up some Oxi Clean & dabbed it on dried ink on a cloth seat.
    It reactivated the ink. Turns out a little spot of ink is the tip of the iceberg. It just kept sucking up more ink from the seat.
    There was no damage to the cloth seat I can see. The rag - permanently stained. LOL
     
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  22. Sep 16, 2022 at 8:07 PM
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    Oxi-clean has crossed my mind so ill keep that on the aresonal! But that was also my fear is once it gets reactivated, don't wanna spread it anymore... But sounds like it needs to be reactivated to get anything to work...

    Thanks for the info :thumbsup:
     
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    Keep a dry towel handy to dab the area.....if you can absorb the ink as it reactivates, it will help keep the stain from spreading
     
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    What do yall recommend for a detail spray/drying aid?
     
  25. Sep 17, 2022 at 9:37 AM
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    Copy that, thank you!
     
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    Optimum No Rinse. Can be used as a detail spray, rinseless wash, and just an all around easy to use, very versatile product. I recommend it as part of any detailing kit.
     
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    I just bought my Tundra few months ago and my paint/clear coat has some crazy bad swirls, cloudiness, and some scratches. I read through a load of these posts in this thread but have always been a drive through touch free car wash guy. I am worried i will ruin it with a buffer + compound being that ive never used one. Was thinking of trying it by hand, is that even worth it?
     
  28. Sep 20, 2022 at 12:16 PM
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    If you care about the finish on it, you can correct the paint. I stay away from any drive thru wash.
     
  29. Sep 20, 2022 at 12:18 PM
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    Yeah its got the beautiful Spruce Mica color so i'd love to have it look as nice as it should. Total noob in that regard but by "Correct the paint" that is done with the clay bar then compound and polish then wax right?
     
  30. Sep 20, 2022 at 1:59 PM
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    Clay bar is used for removing stuck on contamination that won't come off with wash or chemical decontamination like an iron remover. It'll likely cause some marring of paint after use.
    Correction is the compounding/polishing steps. This reduces or totally eliminates the swirls induced by poor washing techniques, claying and or just general touching of the paint when not lubricated. IMO if you clay you'd probably want to at least polish after. You don't always need to clay but if you're putting a machine on it you'd better first.
    Wax, sealants and coatings are somewhat similar in what they do. Basically your last step to lock in that beautiful shiny paint after the correction is done and protect the paint from uv rays from the sun, make it look saweet and make it easier to maintain. They all last varying degrees depending on how you maintain and store your vehicle.

    Enter the detailing rabbit hole. There's some great detail advice on here if you search. Youtube also, you just need to filter some of the bad advice on there more than here. You'll likely be able to tell the difference.
     
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