A slight case of buyers remorse?

Funnyguy713 · Mar 18, 2021

Boerseun said: ↑

Another confirmation that these things are programmed to self-destruct starting at 140,000 miles. Several of our work trucks; it is almost comical to see the service records and the major repairs that are done between 140k and 150k. At a previous company we had a fleet of Ford Explorers for our office and inspectors, and it was like clockwork; probably 7 out of the 9 explorers blew up; either engine or transmission, or both, between 140k and 150k.
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My company gets rid off our Ford fleet trucks when they reach 150k miles.

Lampy415 · Mar 18, 2021

jmcgrady1994[OP] initial post: ↑

I’ll probably get bashed for asking this question here but I am trying to weed out some bias on both sides of it.

I’ve been looking for a truck for the last year and had been deciding between a Tundra and an F150. While reliability was one of my main concerns, there was just too many features that I liked in the F150s over the Tundras that I tested. I couldn’t help but think that Toyota has been sitting on their laurels in regards to reliability being the main selling point while there were so many things about the F150 that I liked that would benefit me on a daily basis. Ultimately I ended up with a 2017 F150 with the 5.0 motor and 6 speed transmission. I landed on this specific configuration because from all of my research, it was the least problematic drivetrain in the 2015-2020 models. With that said, I can’t help but have some buyers remorse as I have combed through the Tundra forum and see that Tundras are regarded as the pinnacle of reliability. So I suppose my question is this:

Given modern manufacturing and quality methods, are Tundras as reliable as they are made out to be or is it over emphasized?

Just to be clear, I’m not insisting that F150s are as reliable as Tundras or the other way around. I’m just trying to understand if the claims of superior reliability are valid and if so, how superior are they? I’ll probably never be able to quantify that but at least it will either help me dispense with my buyers remorse or jump ship completely and trade in my F150 before I take too much of a financial hit.
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jmcgrady1994 I have owned Chevy, Doge and Ford over the years.... I purchase a 2016 f150 sport 5.0 and around 30k it was having issues LONG story short I had a loaner for 9 weeks. 2 years later it starts all over again... (on highway in tragic and stalls
I purchased a 2021 platinum and I must say it is the most comfortable ride I have ever owned!
I would say jump to the other side

Roborob70 · Mar 18, 2021

Lampy415 said: ↑

jmcgrady1994 I have owned Chevy, Doge and Ford over the years.... I purchase a 2016 f150 sport 5.0 and around 30k it was having issues LONG story short I had a loaner for 9 weeks. 2 years later it starts all over again... (on highway in tragic and stalls
I purchased a 2021 platinum and I must say it is the most comfortable ride I have ever owned!
I would say jump to the other side[/QUO

Yes, come to the DARK side!!!!
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Roborob70 · Mar 18, 2021

bsktball55 said: ↑

Depends on what your idea of reliable is. In a fishing forum I belong to, this topic comes up a bunch. There are several people on there that think changing water pumps, alternators, front ends, etc is all normal maintenance. Some people were even ok with the fact that they had to replace their transmission after 100,000 miles because that's how long they last. Others are ok with anything as long as it fell under warranty. They will be like, my truck has been very reliable, it has 100,000 miles on it and I've only had to replace the alternator, water pump, front ball joints, and the power steering pump. I'm sitting there thinking, I had 180,000 miles on my truck and I have replaced the battery, brakes, tires, and changed the oil. To me those are the regular maintenance items that you should expect to replace. Many are ok as long as it lasts for 3 years until they trade it in on a new one. To me if it's not going to last 200,000 miles and 10 years without major repairs, it is not reliable to me.
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Reliable is just replacing consumables....Case in point 2003 camry 282,000 miles all original with the exception of the bushings for the control arms at 250K and alternator replaced at 260ish. Hell I still have the original shoes in the ass end.

Doug2000 · Mar 19, 2021

I have had 7 Toyota’s, from beaters to new Trucks, my Toyota’s have never skipped a beat. I had a Ford Minivan when my kids were small, 2 years old, left me at the side of the road. My friend was at the Ford dealership last fall, blew the second transmission on his wife’s car, he was so mad he threatened to burn it at the lot. My neighbor had a Flex last year with a green puddle on the driveway, he said one piston left him on the highway. My friends spark plugs seized in his F150 5.0, I can keep going, Toyota’s have never made me angry.

I spent the most time at the auto wreckers when I owned a Chev, but that’s another Chapter.

jmcgrady1994 · Mar 19, 2021

clarkritchie said: ↑

I really liked my '18 F150 but had two breakdowns in two years, and so it had to go. My family has never had anything but good luck with several other Ford models dating back to the early '90s, so I'm in no way knocking Ford as being a categorically inferior quality brand or anything. My '98 Ranger was darn near bulletproof; I sure wish I had kept it.
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Just curious, what were the two breakdowns that you experienced?

Kung · Mar 25, 2021

clarkritchie said: ↑

I really liked my '18 F150 but had two breakdowns in two years, and so it had to go. My family has never had anything but good luck with several other Ford models dating back to the early '90s, so I'm in no way knocking Ford as being a categorically inferior quality brand or anything. My '98 Ranger was darn near bulletproof; I sure wish I had kept it.
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Out of curiosity, did you have an Ecoboost or 5.0? I remember reading that supposedly they changed the cylinder sleeves in '18 on the 5.0, and it's been leading to more than a few issues with oil consumption and the like. That's one of the main reasons I didn't reconsider a Ford when I purchased my truck. (That and the dealership was fairly inept and unconcerned with issues I'd had.)

clarkritchie · Mar 25, 2021

I had the Ecoboost 2.7. That bitty engine towed 4K with ease and got great MPGs around town. Honestly, I was pretty happy with that aspect of it. Unfortunately, it turns out that having to get a tow when you have a travel trailer attached, in mid-summer heat on the side of the highway, sort of sucks balls.

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