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6900 vs 7200 GVWR

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by Westside_cook, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. Jan 28, 2020 at 4:31 PM
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    Just to add mine to the list: 2015 DC, 4x4 SR5 Trd 5.7 GVWR 7,100 lbs
     
  2. Jan 28, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    My 6500lb 5th wheel tows like a dream.
     
  3. Jan 28, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    Show me what you got!
     
  4. Jan 28, 2020 at 5:30 PM
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    biebs96 my other truck is a big brown truck

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    I was wondering if the larger 38 gallon tank could affect these numbers...
     
  5. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:26 PM
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    This is hooked to my 08 that I traded, no pics with my 19.

    20180716_103423.jpg
     
  6. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:27 PM
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    what model trailer is that?
     
  7. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:28 PM
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    It's a 2012 23.5' jayco rbs ht-lite or something like that. No slider hitch needed, I can as sharp as I want with no issues.

    That pic is at Bonneyville salt flats.
     
  8. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:29 PM
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    that model include bunks? Just curious more than anything?
     
  9. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:31 PM
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    No just the bed over the hitch and pull out couch.

    No kids allowed. I'm retired and too old for that stuff anymore, lol.
     
  10. Jan 28, 2020 at 7:08 PM
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    I remember that one. You teased me with it before and telling me that it's no longer available. :(
     
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  11. Jan 30, 2020 at 10:30 AM
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    Just went and weighed my truck. I have a decked with some small tools and an are camper. It was 6840.
     
  12. Jan 30, 2020 at 10:43 AM
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    Wow, that with a full tank of gas and you in it? Not much capacity left for passengers or other cargo.
     
  13. Jan 30, 2020 at 11:00 AM
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    Full tank of gas but no one in it. I’ve heard that towing standard they go off allows some weight for fluids and passengers. I’ve never confirmed that though. Cause if I took out the decked and are I think it’ll only drop 500-600 lbs. Which is still only 4 passengers worth of weight.
     
  14. Jan 30, 2020 at 12:00 PM
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    I was referring to the SAE J2807, which says "In addition to a vehicle’s base curb weight, the “Tow Vehicle Total Weight” (TVTW) for testing tow vehicles allocates 150 pounds for the driver, 150 pounds for a front seat passenger, the weight of all tow package equipment, and specified weight of optional equipment (hitch ball, weight distribution bars, fifth wheel hitch, and such) split evenly between the front and rear axles."

    So nothing to do with payload.
     
  15. Jan 30, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    I ran over a scale yesterday with my truck at full work weight with a full tank and I was just under 6600.
     
  16. Jan 30, 2020 at 2:51 PM
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    I checked and the are cap weighs around 190 and the decked is 200. Maybe 100 lbs worth of stuff in the decked. I also have 34” ridge grapplers and different wheels, but not sure how much that adds over stock wheels.

    Id guess that would put be around 6100 stock which is around what I have heard from other posts.
     
  17. Jan 30, 2020 at 4:13 PM
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    It’s kinda crazy that a 180 lb driver and passenger puts you at the absolute maximum capacity with only 500 lbs in the bed, assuming yours is rated at 7200 lbs.
     
  18. Jan 30, 2020 at 4:20 PM
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    Yep, I know for a fact my stock 2019 Platinum is 6,100 lbs, bone stock. Like I said only additions are Line-x, rubber bed mat, and soft tonneau cover. All of those are about 100 lbs.

    I am not sure how Toyota is getting their listed weights unless it is without fluids. If I take the weight of fluids out, it is about dead red square on their listed weight on website.
     
  19. Jan 30, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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    That’s about what I’d expect. Sticker capacity on my 2019 Crewmax 4WD 1794 is 1185. 7200 - 1185 = 6015
     
  20. Jan 30, 2020 at 5:49 PM
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    I was thinking 7200 gvwr is really conservative. But it’s about the same as 1500/f150. Google says those are 7100. 2500/f250 are up to 10k and 3500/f350 are 10-14k. Tundras are just really heavy.

    1500/f150 curb weights are about 1000 less.

    It also seems like they are getting stock curb weight with no fluids and basing payload off that. So you are already down 400-500 lbs before you even get the truck.
     
  21. Jan 30, 2020 at 6:04 PM
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    Agreed on everything. We have some Fords at work and have not got a chance to weigh them. I will weigh them sometime hopefully soon and see what they weigh.

    Again, the tow wars and ratings are completely useless in the 1/2 ton market. You will run out of payload due to tongue weight way before you will ever hit 9-10k of the towing capacity, if you are actual king staying legal.

    All I know is my Tundra handles a 5,000lb. trailer way better than the Ford, 3.5 ecoboost, crew cab I also used to tow it. You can have turbos and all that torqu but when the trailer is wagging the dog all over the place it ain't too fun.
     
  22. Jan 31, 2020 at 3:23 AM
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    I guess that’s a benefit of a heavy truck is that it should keep a heavy trailer more stable.

    I wonder what is different that makes tundras so much heavier. Ford advertises aluminum beds but what about Chevy/dodge.
     
  23. Jan 31, 2020 at 3:34 AM
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    Just checked to compare what changed and 1990 is as far back as I can find. The Silverado and F150 weighed about 4000-4500 and had a gvwr of 6200/6250. So payload was about the same but looks like towing was up to 5000.

    So in 20-30 years gvwr went up 1000, truck weight went up 1000, towing doubled going up by 5000.
     
  24. Feb 5, 2020 at 3:19 PM
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  25. Jan 29, 2021 at 5:12 AM
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    Just drive slow for the first hour or after filling up, then you'll be down to just 30gal ;) On my old 26gal I could watch the needle move in real time.
     
  26. Jan 29, 2021 at 5:27 AM
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  27. Feb 5, 2021 at 6:33 PM
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  28. Feb 5, 2021 at 7:05 PM
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    There has to be something the engineers aren’t telling us. The fact that a 4wd which weighs more, has the exact same frame and suspension has a higher list gvwr is interesting. There is more than meets the story, and perhaps the gvwr is detuned slightly to cover their hide?
     
  29. Feb 6, 2021 at 3:39 AM
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    I thought it was since the 4wd weighs more, they upped the gvwr to keep payload numbers close. How much weight does 4wd add?
     
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  30. Feb 6, 2021 at 3:47 AM
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    Indeed.

    Take a look at the F150 payload ratings some time. A mere engine swap will gain you tons of payload on paper. Toyota does that too although our options are very limited.
     

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