6900 vs 7200 GVWR

Hey guys, I’m trying to figure what possible reason some tundras have 6900 GVWR and why some have 7200. Aside from the engine and 2WD vs 4WD I can’t think of any possible suspension differences. Only cab/bed length are different from what I can tell. If you don’t mind post your Year, Cab, Trim, 2x2 or 2x4, and finally your posted GVWR. I’m trying to see if I can figure out Toyota’s nonsense in why some of us get jipped on Payload. PS not interested in anyone’s payload #’s just GVWR (payload has too many variables). Thanks. I’ll probably make a chart if I get enough input.

 

Edit: just realized that the pro has a different suspension but go ahead and post your #’s. It’s a variable that will be easy to distinguish.

 

Double cab vs Crew max. Crew max is heavier due to it's bigger cab. Single cab will be the lightest if it's still made.

 

That's more of a payload difference though not so much what the suspension should be able to handle.
Post your #'s

 

4.6 vs 5.7.

 

Negative. I have a 5.7 with the 6900 GVWR

 

My 2019 4WD Crewmax 5.7L 1794 is 7200.

 

My 2018 SR5 Upgrade Double Cab 5.7L 4x4 is at 7200.

 

SR5 crew max is lighter than the 1792. 1792 have more bells and whistles each ounce of switches, servos, wires, can add up to pounds. That's why the payload are reversed. 1792 have less payload than base sr5.

 

I'm not talking about payload. I understand how it works. Bottom line, I'm trying to figure out what variable causes toyota to rate my vehicle lower than some crewmax's GVWR. My truck is 4x2, DC, SR5. I dont think you're getting the point of my OP.

 

2020 SR5 DC 4x4 7100 "0" dealer add ons
2016 SR5 DC 4x2 6900 "200lbs" dealer add ons

 

But addons don’t lower the gvwr. You can always take them off. They only lower the payload.

 

I have a 2018 Limited Crewmax 5.7 4wd. 7200 gvwr.

 

The gross weight is set from the factory. But you have to subtract it from your payload.

 

I wonder what tires yours come with stock. I noticed with the 2 different plates sprinter pointed out that the axle ratings are different but as far as I know toyota uses all the same axle's.

 

The Michelin’s.

 

Pretty sure it’s the opposite. Gvwr is set and never changes. You have to subtract the actual vehicle weight from gvwr to get your payload.

Payload changes. Gvwr never changes.

Example: gvwr is 7200. Truck actually weighs 6000. Payload is 1200.

You put 200 # worth of addons. Truck now weighs 6200. With gvwr of 7200 the payload is now 1000.

So with a gvwr that can never change, the original question was why are some 7200 and others 6900 on the same truck.

Original question didn’t have anything to do with payload or addons.

 

I appologize for adding the second sentence in my on my second post mentioning about payload. It just went off track of your original question.


https://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle /gvwr.htm

 

Steel vs aluminum wheels make any difference?

 

I wouldn’t think wheels or tires would make a difference as those are easily replaceable by the owner. Tires are a wear item.

Too much liability if for instance a truck came with the gvwr rated for load E tires at max psi then someone switched to some cheap tires but still tried to haul the same payload up to their gvwr. I think the manufacturer would go with the lower # like tundras with p rated tires.

 

Yeah I was just referring to post 9 and 11 when you mentioned addons and payload. Those don’t alter manufacturers gvwr rating. I have a spray on bedliner and a sticker that my max payload is reduced by 40# or something. But gvwr is the same. That article you linked doesn’t even mention payload.

 

I agree that they downgrade our ratings on purpose. But that is just my opinion.


But tires and wheels could affect the GAWR. If each wheel is only rated for a 2000lb load for example, then it doesn’t matter if it is a GM 14 bolt full floating axle. The rear axle should only have 4000lbs of load on it correct?

 

Sliding moon-roof option will be the difference maybe? I know I couldn't get the moon-roof and sprayed in liner from the factory... It exceeded some bullshit weight limit. I'm in a Platinum CM

 

I just went in to the build configuration tool on their website, and GVWR changes from 7,000 to 7,200 when you go from 4x2 to 4x4. Not sure why they would do that, other than making payload capabilities the same across 4x2 and 4x4 models. I know that in HD truck builds, you can opt for a higher GVWR "package" if you get a diesel so that you don't lose payload.

Maybe there is some slight structural differences between the 4x2 and 4x4 models that would allow a slightly higher GVWR?

 

Mine is a 2013 double cab rock warrior it comes at 7100. Of course it’s a second gen. Of course y’all know that.

 

I would be curious to see of there are any structural changes that make a 200+ pound difference (200 pounds plus the offset of the weight of the 4x2 system.
My initial thought was as you stated that they were trying to keep a certain number for payload and adjusting the GVWR allows them to do that.
I dont intend on overloading my vehicle but if Toyota was playing with the #'s I would feel more confident about my payload while towing knowing that I have the same basic structure as another tundra toyota deemed was 300 pounds more capable.
Not declaring it so but thank you everyone for your numbers.

 

Isn’t there a chart in the owner’s manual that has the different configurations and GVWRs? I am away from my truck today so I can’t check but I am pretty sure I looked at it.

I just looked at the 2008 owners manual online and the last 3 pages have the different configurations and GVWRS.

 

I'll have to glance at mine again, I know there is a chart for payload, which mysteriously doesn't match my door plate at all.

 

Totally weird that 4wd is the difference.

They have all the same major parts.

 

The front wheel bearings are larger on a 4x4, other than the weight of the 4x4 components, I believe that is the only difference. My guess is they pushed up the gvwr because almost all the 4x4 weight is on the front axle rather than the rear which is where most people load up there trucks. Which means that the 6900lb gvwr and the 7200lb gvwr allow the same amount of rear axle load. This is also supported by the fact the rear axle rating on those 2 door stickers are within 50lbs of each other but the front axle rating is 100lbs difference. Another thing that is different between the sticker is tire size, which affects bearing loads.