2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

That’s one that shouldn’t be on a 1/2 ton anyway. Would be handy if you had a 5th wheel but I’ve never used mine.

 

Agree. I only use it because it’s there. Like I was saying it’s one of those deletes where if you think about it, you wouldn’t walk away from. You’d just piss and moan lol

 

Your point is valid though. These feature deletes are BS.

 

$1,175

 

@Bannerman just making sure you made it work today, it was raining and was generally concerned about your wiper motor




Im just here to stir the pot on a rainy day

 

Ah yeah, I just stepped out from my living room to my office. Wait, do Tundy owners actually have to leave the house to get to work??

 

Burgers aren't gonna flip themselves!

 

https://youtu.be/6tH5Mg2vtVU

 

I kinda skipped around but did they say if the Tremor was in Sport mode? I’m surprised it was even that close if it was.

 

Huge difference in that rolling start. Tundra gets burned. Ford and GM using the same transmission tho right?

 

Ah, same transmission, but tuning/shiftpoints are different. 3.31 rear end is probably not doing the Tundra any favors.

 

Not that the Ford sounds great, but that 3.4 sounds like ass when they revved it up.

 

Yeah, i didnt mean all the same, as the engines will hit redline at different times. Also that ZR2 is cool, but 3.23 and only 8800 lbs towing is kinda mehhh.

 

I’m pretty surprised the zr2 didn’t really do better. Maybe it’s above sea level. But that tremor though has some serious power.

 

I think the turbos must kick in at lower rpm or spool up faster than the Tundra. Sport mode on my Tremor, even with 35's feels like a video game.

EDIT quick search shows this Youtube channel is based in Toronto. If so, it's sea level.

 

If you need to tow heavy, don't buy the truck designed for off roading.

 

*Tremor has entered the chat*

 

yes, but both the Tremor and Pro tow 2000 plus on that. Look I know the Raptor is made for offroad and doesn't have suspension for towing, but it does off roading much much better than a ZR2 and tows about the same.

 

Hard to tell for sure. The specs on the Ford Canada website aren't broken out by trim level.

 

Rated at 10,900. 4944K for you.

 

Which is like 3000 lbs less than the max an F150 can be rated to tow.

 

Yes but you give up some to have more offroad capable. Bigger tires, softer suspension, extra options like heated seats all go against towing/payload. The max tow on a F150 is like a base model.

I think it was telling for me to have my brother and best friend who are both die hard Chevy guys say how disappointed they are in current GM offerings and looking at Ford.

 

Still more than the even the hightest rated 2nd gen Tundra. In any case, if you need to tow more than 10,000 pounds, it's time for a 3/4 ton.

 

That was my point. The off road models tow less than the other models. If you want the off roading goodies, don't complain about the towing capacity and payload being lower.

 

Agreed. But Ford is certainly better than Chevy based off the comparison on Tremor vs ZR2. ZR2 gives up too much towing/payload for minimal increases off-road abilities. Stuffed a even bigger V8 in a truck and still don't have enough power to beat a TTV6. Its disappointing

 

The old Tundras were designed to have soft shifts, and I'd bet the new ones are no different. There will eventually be a tune to fix that issue...

 

@Bannerman what kind of mileage drop have you seen since you upped tires and added the lift on the Tremor?

 

Not the F150 but I figured this thread has kinda gone all over the place. Here is a couple videos about the 3.0 Duramax. First up is a guy pulling the IKE Gauntlet in his 2021(the original LM2) at max GCW of 15000 lbs:

https://youtu.be/vMIFhpGDf8Q

The 3.0 seems to be pulling a considerable amount of torque on this climb. At the RPM's he is at he should be up near 400 ft-lbs of torque but his app is only showing around 290-300 for most of the climb while his foot is buried. Based on the speed he is traveling, that makes sense as hes making 190hp or so. Not sure if this is because of the temperatures or the altitude. His coolant temps are also in the 230's which seems quite high to me and has always been an issue with my 2014 Ecoboost.

It seems that GM has the nannies taking over in full force. One thing about my Ecoboost is that the PCM really wont jump in and derate the truck until things get really hot. So my truck will pull hard right up until it gets to critical temperatures and you have to control things via your right foot. GM seems to use the PCM to control things much more.

Thats a little disappointing to me as I tow in the rockies at a slightly lower GCW of 13200 lbs, but I am also towing a travel trailer that is considerably less aerodynamic.


Here is a video of the changes to the new LZ0, its pretty substantial what they have done.

https://youtu.be/dxPkKIX-4aM

 

To be honest, I can't say for sure. I drove the truck 1000 miles home which was basically break-in, then slapped the 35s on. If I had to guess, I'd say I took a 0.5-1 MPG hit? The 3.73s help that I think. But as with anything it's how you drive it. I can still get 20+ mpg if I keep it around 60 mph, but where's the fun in that?