2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

Ford is deleting more content—— you don’t say.

I like the F150 a lot, but Ford as a company is a bag of dicks. But it’s the consumer that turned them that way. Happily paying more for less truck. So they’re going to keep on going with it

 

I will die on the ambient lighting delete hill. My 21 had it and it was awesome.

 

This. In my 20s and 30s when I wasn’t buying fully loaded vehicles and spending high 20s or low 30s on a truck my attitude would be different. Now that we are approaching the 60k mark my patience is thinner. In some ways it’s even more irritating when they move cheap simple options that don’t cost much. You feel even more nickle and dimed.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record… I had misgivings about taking a December 2021 build in March 2022 but feeling better and better about it

 

It's pretty hard to understand. My truck is the equivelent of a Lariat High package, so all LED as well. Except those two bulbs, maybe a 30 cent cost difference on a $75k truck.

It does have the ambient light everywhere else at least (doors, under seats, floor etc). Just lost the cup holder lights. Again, that one was not a big deal to me though.

 

my 22 lightning didn’t have cup holders, the front bin, glove box, or door pockets.

 

In my 20's I couldn't afford it, in my late 30's/early 40's I can but it's not what I want, so I guess I'll revisit the idea again within the next decade.

 

oh oh, yeah that sucks.

 

Still regretting my F150 purchase at 5k miles since purchase. The thing downshifted so hard the other day from 6th to 5th that I thought I got rear ended at 40mph.

Going up a consistent hill the boot gauge will start fluttering and you can hear the blow off valve spazzing out. I should take it in, but they won't give you a loaner, and I can't sit at home for 2 or 3 days while they figure it out (and at 2 or 3 days I'm LUCKY compared to most). Oh, and my axle nut issue is making a grinding sound in parking lots.

Besides all this, it is the better truck compared to the Tundra. The features and usability are impressive, the truck itself just doesn't work though!

 

This reminds me of another friend of mine who's had a 2017 F150 since new.
Transmission had to be rebuilt after 2 years.
But then.....get this: air intake plenum had to be replaced not once, not twice, not even three times.........but four!
Yes, he's on his 4th plenum now.

:/

 

How are you liking your 3rd Gen Tundra?

 

That's what blows my mind here, they're a major auto manufacture, how hard can building an intake plenum be? There's stuff breaking on these trucks like the AXLE that I never even considered one could screw up. Everyone on the ford forum is blaming "covid cars" but I don't buy it. It is obvious the manufacture is only concerned about squeezing max margin out of their vehicles, and every row of radiator fins saves them 5 cents

 

Closing in on 20k miles - zero complaints thus far. It just works...for now. LoL

 

I get what you’re saying, but these read to me as mutually exclusive statements. I do agree the Ford is almost always better on paper. But real world experience is too often a different thing. And I get that the new Tundra has its share of issues.

But the difference to me is that this has been typical of Ford for years, and it is largely new and uncharacteristic of Toyota. I do hope Ford’s moves in firing their chief reliability guy and targeting lower warranty expenses will translate to more hassle free ownership for buyers.

 

I don't know that it's new for Tundra. Look at the 3rd gen Tacoma. It had a ton of problems, leaks from the tail light, transmission issues. Hell it still needs a regear straight from the factory, even if you don't upsize tires. It's a minivan motor that they stuck in a truck after all.

 

All I can tell y'all is I have a 22 Raptor. Thing is a beast off-road, but a total mess with warranty items and recalls. I know Toyota has some of them as well and the tundra isn't built like last gen-- but at least Toyota dealers get their vehicles in and out. Ive been waiting 5 months to get into my local ford dealer for recall issues. Yesterday I put my name on a 23 TRD Pro solar octane at MSRP. Build date 1/3/23

 

Is the fluttering actually an issue? Are you getting underboost codes if you go WOT?

The reason I ask is the BOV and throttle body logic on the EB's don't always jive with conventional logic. You flooring it doesnt mean the throttle plate is wide open or anywhere close. The way the PCM on the EB's control boost is pretty intense and its possible the BOV is purposefully releasing for some reason only the powertrain engineers understand. I datalog my truck whenever I am towing and the wastegates and throttle body always seem to be doing random things and often seem to be trying to achieve opposite things(IE, wastegates closed but throttle also barely open.)

 

This about says it all.

In addition, see post #2769 here...https://www.tundras.com/threads/2022-tundra-vs-2022-f-150-opinion.98975/page-93#post-3003965

 

With Raptors right now, one better hope it works well from the factory because if you have a serious problem, they can barely get enough parts to build new trucks, let alone fix the ones they already got their money for. Warranty work takes almost as long as initial delivery.

A little hyperbole in there but I largely stand by my statement.

 

Well you know ....its not hyperbole when I talk to my local dealer and he tells me he can't even get me a battery for my 2018 Tundra right now.
I don't need a battery,
I was asking about a 2022 battery over 6 months ago to test their system. No can do then and no can do now.
Backordered. Then I asked about my truck for fun. Backordered.
He said they normally have 1/2 dozen in stock.
He told me its a widespread problem. All models all years.
He went on to volunteer info that he can't even get brake rotors for a 2009 Corolla right now.

 

Had my Capstone power seats fail, stereo shutoff, and center screen freeze twice on me in the last week. Rather than play the warranty repair game I got rid of it. Was a nice truck, but not shaping up to be the quiet reliable ride I signed up for, so I added one more Raptor to the stable.

 

All my vehicles are always white, but I do like that color.

 

Looks nice

 

I wish it was white, this was a nice compromise though.

 

Thank you sir!

 

Thats reallly nice. I dont think I like this color as much as LeadFoot that you had listed but its still sharp!

 

Is that the new azure?

 

Yes it is

 

Had a deposit on one of those for a time. Color reminds me of my adored Cav Blue but alas, it’s not meant to be.

 

Did you order or have to pay a premium? Man what luck finding one on the lot unclaimed if so

 

Better step your game up Dr.Z.