2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

Is that a 2 piece 1Up bike rack?? If so, I have never seen one like that. I live near Diamondback & have been trying to figure out how to mount my 1Ups on it where you can still open it when the bikes are off.
My truck isn’t due till mid October.

 

Yeah they sell individual racks for roof mounting and stuff. I see them a lot on the back of sprinter van campers.

 

Yep. I had this brilliant idea for them, sent them an email titled "new product idea", with measurements, pictures of the diamondback open, pictures of the bike up there etc. They emailed me back and basically said, "We already make that dummy"

 

Found this interesting so sharing.
F150 Lightning TFL towing torture test up Sunshine Mountain with a Chevy 6.2 L in comparison.
Interesting to see what happens on the way down with building more range with the regenerative braking.
He was flooring the Chevy at one point going up the hill.

https://insideevs.com/news/608170/ford-f150-lightning-uphill-towing-torture-test/

 

They weren't building more range on the downhill. Gravity is free, and they were recovering energy using the EV motors to control speed.

I saw that test too. It may seem like the range gain going downhill is great, but it's not.

If a BEV goes 10 miles down a steep hill, obviously that 10 miles doesn't get deducted from the range, if the BEV we're able to add an ADDITIONAL 10 miles, for a total range gain of 20, that'd be pretty impressive.

I will say the Lightning did much better than the Rivian and Tesla tow tests I have seen. Both the Rivian and Tesla had hot battery packs and couldn't regen much power on the downhill sections, the Lightning did very well. However, it was only 79°F so don't know if that helped.

Nonetheless, the range sucks. You'd be irresponsible to think a Lightning should be used to tow things out of town.

 

So if I understand correctly, it was fully charged, drove 16 miles towing and was almost out of range ?

 

I dont think so. I wanna say he started the climb at like 48%.

But still, the EV trucks seem to only get about 1/3 of their empty range while towing. My thought is that the motors are built to efficiently produce the power needed to move the empty truck, but become considerably less efficient when towing and having to double output

 

Something must have been up with the chevy. It doesnt take that much Hp to move a trailer up a hill at 30 mph.

 

Andre's comment at the end was it was a more comfortable ride / experience overall - not those exact words with the Lightning.
Just saying. Not that you are going to get a Lightning for towing far but,
I thought it was a good test to see how quick you can drain the truck under extreme conditions, and it started out only partially charged.
And yeah in cold weather its worse.
I was very surprised to see the 6.2 L Chevy floored with no more available power.
The low speed 25 mph going up had an effect?
Well we were in the small town today that we moved from a little over a year ago and low and behold outside of Lowes (pun intended)
there was a bank of chargers (6?) that I never have seen before with two small cars using them.

 

The chevy might have been trying to protect itself. I think he said it wouldnt downshift. I pulled my 5500 lb travel trailer up the road from Parowan UT to Brianhead and you climb from 6000’ to 10400’ in a pretty short distance only doing 30-40 mph. I think the low speed hurts these engines with electric fans. Even though i was not on the gas that hard my coolant temps got pretty high.

 

when he was going downhill as soon as he lifts off the gas its doing regenerative braking. (EV motors?)
my understanding from what I have read. And the Lightning has options you can select on how much Regen it does.

The Ford F-150 Lightning has regenerative breaking that can reduce battery use 10% to 25%, giving you that much more of the precious range. There is a setting that allows you to adjust how much regeneration you want to use, from a little to maximum that allows you to do one-pedal driving.

https://truckpowered.com/does-ford-f-150-lightning-have-regenerative-braking-save-210/

 

He mentioned that the transmission was refusing to swap gears at that point, later in the video he said the transmission was operating correctly again and the truck was doing much better.

That did surprise me, all I hear about the 6.2 is great things, but it seems that the transmission had different priorities that day.......

I'd be disappointed, to say the least, after spending way too much money on that truck, to have it behave like a 90's truck.....

 

Hi this my first reply so if I don't wrong please don't chew me out. I just got 22 tundra limited like 3 weeks ago and I already putting in 2500 road trip and it awesome ride better than my sequoia. My question is do you really need need that 7.2kw on board power? I know a few people at my work have them and they never even touch it. For reliability I take tundra any day.

 

Welcome to the forum.
What is the source for your reliability statement? Its a brand new vehicle down to every bolt. Is reliability information out yet.. Can you provide a link?

I carry tools in my truck both with cords and battery powered. Having power and charging capability would be beneficial. I also carry a portable power pack in my truck because of where I go. I hope to never have to use it. If it gets used one time it was worth it. So the on board power is good for utility and insurance.

By awesome ride are you implying it is a smoother ride on road, or that it is a better overall vehicle?

 

Hmmmm, do we actually know how reliable this new tundra is yet?

 

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new truck. I'm going to say that because you even asked the question, you probably don't need the generator. Enjoy your truck.

 

If you ever go camping its a pretty useful feature. If you ever lose power at your house its a useful feature. If you ever do anything outside that might require ac power(like my welder) its a useful feature.

If you just drive your truck to the office and back then its not that useful.

 

Do I have an immediate and pressing need for the generator? Nope. But having been kicking around the idea of a portable generator in that power range for awhile, it was a big deal clincher for me. I get the backup generator capability pretty close to what I would have purchased without needing to store and maintain a separate piece of equipment. I actually wanted and had ordered a 5.0 but when I found my power boost on a lot and read up on the inverter capabilities that’s a big factor that made me cancel with the dealer I special ordered through and get the hybrid.

*Edited…Somehow Quoted the wrong person*

 

The reliability statement is Toyota's marketing hard at work. Just a blank statement that whatever Toyota model it may be, is inherently reliable above all else. Man that gets old

 

Sounds like it does make sense for you. I think it's a cool idea. For me, I would still want my stand alone gen if we're camping and I take the truck to go fishing and the wife stays at the camper.

The point of my reply was that if a person questions the usefulness of an on board generator, they probably won't miss it. You don't need it for commuting and trips to the store.

 

My 09 Crewmax will still probably be serving someone well in another 10 years if/when they notice the coolant seepage and change the water pump and maybe do the AIP bypass. Who can say with these 2022s. Not to rehash arguments earlier on the thread but I don’t think we can tell at this point and there is bad signs. But even if the Gen3 Tundra was not for me This time I am cheering for Toyota based on prior service to me and my family. Aside from reliability the Gen 1 interior space and rear seat were class leading in 2007 and it was frustrating over the years
Watching them apparently decide the demand wasn’t there for them to build on that, so they were better off de contenting over the years and then shrinking in 2022.

 

Yeah did not mean to quote you

 

Yeah...You don't need it...until you need it. Spent years trying to convince CEO's and CIO's to spend some $$$ on disaster recovery planning for IT. It was like pulling teeth....then 9/11 came. just saying.

Your standalone gen is using the same gas as the truck. well no that's not true. Only super gas goes into everything except the truck for me.

There used to be Truck buyers and SUV buyers. They rarely cross shopped. Then Trucks became SUV's with a bed.
The lines are totally blurred now.
Doesn't that posters past Sequoia come with full time 4wd ?
He lost that going to the Tundra. again ...just saying.

 

My future son in law is kicking himself for not getting the F150 Hybrid model. Other than that he really likes his 2022 F150 Limited. No clunking in transmission like the 2.7 model he had before that.

 

Sold the crv to carvana and finally have both at the same time.

 

There's also several configs.
2.0kW in non-hybrid f150. $995 option
2.4kW standard in hybrid.
7.2kW $750 option in hybrid.
https://www.bayouford.net/new-ford-f150-pro-power-onboard-generator-laplace-la.html

Certainly an attractive feature for me, I carry a 2kW Yamaha LP-powered so that and the 20lb LP tank wouldn't be needed.

 

I bet an idling 3.5L casually producing 7.2 kW is quieter than a standalone generator too. I know the honda and yamaha units are very quiet but so is an Ecoboost at 600 rpm. 7.2kw is only 9-10 hp so the engines barely working.

And you have 31 gallons of gas

 

As long as your EcoBoost doesn't have the same annoying whine at idle that my mailman's does.

 

It doesnt, as a matter of fact.

 

Good point, and a standalone needs protection to run when raining.

I priced a new F150 hybrid midlevel trim to get 4A (not available on lower trims) and 7.2kW, think it was $66k. I'll look at used ones in a couple years and the 7.2kW would be a desirable option.