2022 Tundra vs 2022 F-150 opinion?

I hope you girls had a nice Mother's Day.

 

My Mother in law needs a kitchen stool to get up to the step to climb into the Powerboost now. Electric steps that had a setting where they nearly touched the ground and then lifted a full sized person up to a comfortable step in height would be a nice invention. I have to keep a stool in the truck just for her. I thought it might help that it sits a bit lower than my Crewmax used to and I have full steps rather than the hoop type nerf bars from the old truck. But it just keeps getting harder.


Then when she's in Florida for 6 months at a time her personal step gets misplaced while I'm repeatedly emptying it out for cleaning. I never remember to replace it and then I have to scramble to find a way to maneuver her up into the truck with mininal fuss when she visits. End result is I almost touch her ass more than I touch my wife's when she's over

 

Says Mr.Mom as he prepares a bottle of baby formula inside his F-150.

 

My parent's Expedition steps got pretty close to the ground since the Expi's sit so low. I borrowed the truck for a few days and those MF's would karate chop my shins every time I opened the door. I ended up turning them off.

 

Actually regular full synthetic oil. Usually what the dealer has if it’s under warranty if not good ol’ O’ Riley's ( Napa) oil filter and full synthetic oil done every 5k. We’ve had a gen.3 coyote engine die with only 22k on the clock. It’s the only one that has died some far. Took forever to get replaced. We go thru cabin filters like underwear…

 

Not sure why. Last Dodge we got was a Pentastar powered Charger for pursuit duties. A V6 for pursuit duties?! SMH. Not really driven other than for admin duties.

No Ram pickups…

 

Haha I’m pretty proud of the parenting I do actually so I’ll take that as a compliment.

 

By all means! I’ve changed diapers and prepared bottles. Just giving you a hard time.

Hell I’ve cooked and cleaned.

 

called being a real man and a father

 

I found this funny, enjoy.

https://youtube.com/shorts/L8HLJA4XymM?si=Fqf0B7HGeshCmggz

 

Test drove a 2024 TRD Pro Tundra this weekend, it was really nice and seems to have ironed out a lot of my complaints from my '22 Capstone. Toyota still has the best digital review, and camera quality by far, super impressed with that.
Ultimately, drove off in a 2024 Raptor though. Vehicles are both extremely nice, and more capable than I need, but in the end the TRD Pro is just too close price wise to Raptor ($76,000 TRD Pro asking price, $79,000 for 801A Raptor) without checking all the boxes. My '23 was paid off and retained it's value better than I ever would have guessed, so wrote a check for a very small difference and sales tax to switch to the '24.

 

Congrats!! We need pics!

 

Thanks! Amazing how many great options there are today, Toyota vs Ford aside there's a lot of improvement occurring across the board since 2020 era vehicles. Here's a pic

 

I like that color.

 

The chrome handle bar mustache is not subjective. It never looks good

With the color matched mustache and some bigger tires the Tundras do look really good. Stock wheels and tires make it look like it skipped leg day big time. They gave them so much room in the wheel wells that 31-32" tires just look small.

 

If you wanted to tune you really gotta do your research on the people doing the tuning. I have tunes from 4 different companies for my F150 and, once I started datalogging and learning to tune the truck myself, I realized how terrible 3 of the 4 companies tunes were. There was no way they should have been pushing the engine as hard as they were on a basic towing tune. Most of them had totally eliminated at altitude related safeties to prevent the turbos from overspeeding.

 

I don't have any chrome on my truck, color match 100% and I don't have stock tires either

 

I'll stand by my statement above; Nothing is "free", if you could make more power without sacrificing reliability, engine manufactures would take advantage.

You may be able to tune you truck/boat/lawnmower, and you may not ever have a problem, but you are taking a risk. And that was all I was saying in response to whoevers uncle's brothers stepson with an Ecoboost leaking oil after a tune.

 

this ^

I stay away from all that, I just don't want any issues to come up trying to get more power.

these things have enough for me anyways.

 

Man the color is gorgeous!! Ford and Yota man. One of my buddies has a Raptor and another just purchased a new Platinum.

Our parking lot looks like a truck dealership. We got Raptors, Tacos, Rams, Tahoes, F-150 and Silverados.
I just didn’t want another Ford, since I drive one all day. So I get my fix for an F-150.

 

I had a crazy tune on my BMW 335, that thing ended up grenading the engine. One of the pistons flew thru the oil pan.

 

It happens everywhere - people seem to think manufacturers are overly conservative.

I have a little Kubota BX tractor and it came up in conversation with someone once - he goes: "I have the same tractor. You can turn up the hydraulic pressure on it so the loader lifts more! It just makes it really touchy and my quick connect fittings leak sometimes now, but it's totally worth it."

Uh, no thanks - you've illustrated the reasons Kubota didn't do that from the factory. It'll already lift a bucket of crushed stone without a problem, what more do I need out of a small machine?

 

Then the same people complain about reliability/durability. It's almost comical.

 

I had a conservative tune (MPPK and CEL-delete for the catless downpipes) on my F30 335i and it grenaded at VIR with 145,000 miles on the odometer. The piston came out the bottom and took at the steering rack as we were exiting a corner. The car went for a spin in the infield and no amount of you trying to countersteer would have helped because the steering rack locked up.

Agreed. If it was so easy to do while maintaining reliability and durability, wouldn't the manufacturers have done it already?

 

Some of them do. Ford has Ford Performance tunes for many of the Ecoboost engines and Toyota brought out the TRD tune for the Tundra.

The difference is that Toyota and Ford know the limits of the motor and also understand how the tunes actually work. A lot of these aftermarket tuners, at least in my experience, don't actually understand what they are doing nor do the people who buy their tunes and talk about how great they are. They don't understand how turbos work or what a compressor map is. They don't understand how the various limiters in the tune function. A lot of them just go in and max out every map and limiter that is holding them back and in the process eliminate all of the safety nets built into the tune.

One of the tunes I had on my F150 completely eliminated the Turbo overspeed map which was supposed to limit turbo air flow to stop it from overspinning. Well, that might have been fine at sea level, but the problem is the tuner didnt understand that turbos lose flow capacity at elevation, and so at 6500' where my house is, the turbos were choking and the PCM, without knowing the overspeed limits, was sending the wastegate duty cycle to 100% at 5000 rpm trying to get the turbos to spin faster. The only thing that saved the truck was that the OEM wastegate springs were not stiff enough and the exhaust pressure blew the gates open anyways.

A good tuner can work with the safeties and leave them in place and functioning while still making more power. They just have to not be lazy and/or stupid.

I've honestly thought about starting my own tuning business but I don't know that I wanna take on that liability nor deal with customers who don't understand why my tunes arnt breaking 1/4 mile records.

 

Don't they also change your fuel requirement (ie. required to use premium 91/93 octane fuel in order to achieve higher power/torque figures)?

 

Probably, I can tell a marked difference in power when I use regular vs 91-93.

 

Yes, probably, but at least 3.5L Ecoboosts can pick up 30 rwhp on the stock tune with 93 vs 87. The FP tunes definitely add on top of that. There is a lot of parameters in the tuning that are dependent on octane, not just the timing.

 

So do I, at least on the last truck. It would hold 10th on a long moderate climb that I do every day with 91+ octane. If I used 87, it had to shift down to 8th.

This one was probably full of 87 when I bought it, but I've kept 91+ in the tank ever since so I'm not sure what the difference is.

I'll occasionally put 87 in if I know I have 20+ gallons of 93 in the tank, since it'll balance out to 91.

 

My 2013 Harley Davidson 103ci Street Glide requires 91 or better octane LOL!