2020 Tundra or wait?

Knowing Toyota the TT V6 would make more power than the current V8. However I doubt it will beat the high HP Ford that is in the Raptor and Navigator. Toyota doesn’t do anything exciting. They do reliable but boring. In the case of 3rd gen Tacoma’s it’s just boring.

Toyota’s are awesome because they are reliable and have a huge aftermarket following to help make them exciting.

I’d rather buy a used 2020 and put a supercharger on it. Probably come out the same cost wise.

 

The 3rd Tacoma isn't just "boring," it's down right terrible. I owned a 2019 Tacoma. That thing has the acceleration of a 1998 honda civic unless you put it above 3000 rpm. It's really not a good daily driver.

 

I was debating the same thing as the original poster. I test drove a 2020 and fell in love with it. The fuel economy absolutely sucks, but it feels sooooo powerful!!

 

It may or may not have the HP/torque numbers of the Ford V6s but it will definitely have higher numbers than the 5.7l and yes it will be built with reliability as the most important aspect.

 

I’ve had dozens of new trucks. Mostly Chevys, a few Fords, and a couple of Rams. (I’ve also had 3 Tacoma’s and an old Toyota pre Tacoma era truck)

When buying this time, 90% of my decision to buy the Tundra was:
No stop start
No cylinder deactivation
Big V8
6 speed auto.

The turbo V6’s do nothing for me.
And the 8 and 10 speed transmissions are shift crazy

I buy a new truck every year or two. I hope I’m not stuck buying one of those government mandated POS the next time.

 

The world is changing my friend. Its inevitably that the V8 will be gone and it has nothing to do what you want. Stricter emissions and government requirements for better fuel economy will put an end to the V8 and manual trans. Twenty years from now there will be more electric vehicles than combustion vehicles and most will be driving themself.

 

Here’s the beauty to that...
20 years from now they’re probably gonna take away my license.

 

Let them take it, it wont matter because the car will be driving you around.

 

Why can’t they just make a small displacement V-8? Would emissions and fuel consumption be different on a 3.5 TT V6 instead of a 3.5 TT V8?

 

Toyota already has the 3.5l twin turbo Lexus motor. It costs millions to develope a new motor so use what you already have.

 

I actually find the mpg not as bad as I was expecting. My '18 Tacoma saw 21mpg and my '20 Tundra is at 19mpg driven the same way. The best I've seen on my Tundra was 21.5mpg driving like granny at 55mph. I only have 3,000 miles on the truck so hopping it will get even better.

 

Then why is Lexus developing a TT V8?

 

it will go on their upcoming Lexus LC F sport and their other future sport line up. The base car is $100k with the 5.0 V8, this will be in their higher end F sport at $200k cost with no rear seats.
Highly unlikely in the Tundra.

 

They already have it. This one they already took off, but the 4.6 V8 with the Lexus GX 460 and the 5.0 V8 in the Lexus LC500 and the Lexus GS F sport. Awesome V8 engines. Could see this in the next generation TRD Pro.

 

I still want a manual transmission. I was told the same thing...I was living in the past.

 

I can remember when the experts were saying Twenty Years from now people will be living on the moon.

 

I was told by a regional Toyota rep that they will use the hybrid engine in the Lexus LS for the tundra and possibly swap the 5.7 for the other more efficient Lexus suv LX V8.

 

I heard the same. Two engine options for 2021. TT V6 and TT V6 with hybrid assist. They will be the only engine options. The one with the hybrid assist will (should) get ~30 mpg and tow 13k plus. More than any other 1500. I'd bed the non hybrid assist will still be mid to high 20's. Obviously these are estimates and not real world driving. I love the V8 but i'm not closed minded to more power and more towing/hauling capability. I have a feeling they will continue to use the 5.7 for the land cruiser and when that gets a rehaul, the 5.7 will get a tombstone.

 

I feel like these specs are for the 5th gen Tundra.

 

I was told 2021. Doubt they share 5th gen specs when 4th gen hasn't been announced. Obviously we all don't know 100% until they formally announce it.

 

I have a 2009 with 92K. I am paying another car off so at least 2 years out from a purchase as I want a year or so payment free. My original plan was a Tundra but then I heard about the redesign and I am up in the air. I don't want to be a test mule for new technology and have been satisfied with the longevity of my 5.7/6 speed. If some version of those powertrains shows up in the new model I will probably give it a year and then pick one up.

If everything is new I may have to decide whether I'll wait more like 2 years into the design cycle to see how it holds up or look at Fords or Dodges. This would be such an easy decision if the Toyota was gonna have the same transmission design but say another speed or two and the same engine but with about 20 more hp. If they don't do that it gets harder for me. Plus the next gen will probably start at close to 50K for a truck like what I have now, just a mid grade SR5 with a couple of options. The Ford and the Dodge will be deeper into their design cycles and more easily had for a good price.

 

I believe Toyota would be making a huge mistake not to continue to offer the 5.7 V8.

GM, Ford and Ram still offer a V8 along with their 6 bangers.
GM is now offering the 6.2 V8 monster in their 1/2 ton. And I seriously considered one. But the stop-start and cylinder deactivation bullchit killed my enthusiasm.

 

You can turn it off...every time you get in the stinkin' truck...

 

I didn't know Toyota had the V6 with the double cab. I would wait to see what Toyota has coming in the next gen before you make the decision and you you will probably end up getting a good deal on a leftover 20 next year by waiting too.

 

Toyota has worked hard to get their piece of the truck market here in N America. I don’t see them doing anything drastic that would put that market share at risk. It’d be a lot safer and easier to upgrade a bit at a time. Start with the 8 speed transmission from the Land Cruiser and the larger touch screen / upgraded electronics. As the hybrid factory comes online in California add the hybrid assist for a max towing package. At some point they can roll out the TT V6 alongside the 5.7. But, if we get confirmation that the 5.7 is really a goner, I’ll likely trade my 2017 in and get my last brand new Limited... and keep it forever. I don’t have any interest in a TT V6 or a hybrid... although given Toyota’s long history with the bulletproof Prius... I’d probably opt for a hybrid assist before I’d take a chance with the TT if I absolutely had to choose.

 

Also, don't turbo vehicles require higher octane (and higher price) fuel?

 

No. At least not normally.

 

But you will have maintenance to do on them.

 

Don’t forget the direct injection.... I tried to like the GM as well.

 

RAM pairs their mild-hybrid e-torque system with the 5.7 V8 aswell. 4x4 truck getting atleast 21mpg on the highway.