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General Supercharger Thread.

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by snivilous, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Oct 28, 2021 at 1:54 AM
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    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas What?

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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    Stage 1 harrop comes with larger fuel pump,too. for non-flx-fuel rides.

    easy peasy
     
  2. Oct 28, 2021 at 3:36 AM
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    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas What?

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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    Lean code update


    Damn it.

    well, dry frigid air has again arrived in Houston...it's 58 here.

    ...and as soon as i get off the highway & turn into the warehouse yard....stop in the road, put in park, to move a load timber out of the road & bam -- P0171. lean whatever.

    I cleared the code & got back to life.

    I think my truck is my twin & it is simply a slow learner and is averse to cold weather. I don't have a vacuum leak - or at least one I can find.

    I'll give it a few days to learn, as this arctic apocalypse will be here a few days.


    If I was D3 performance....I would jump into this forum & snag a few easy customers....
     
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  3. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:18 AM
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    I think it might be a problem in South Dakota. 43 this morning and 15 next Wednesday.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:20 AM
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    nobodyintexas What?

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    that would be a problem for me & the truck.
     
  5. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:21 AM
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    I sent them a message regarding SC remote tunes specifically for stage 2. At this moment they haven’t had a stage 2 truck in there to develop a base file so nothing for me yet, but he did extend an offer! He told me to get on the forums and see if I could get someone to bring their truck in. He said if anyone with a stage 1 Harrop can bring their truck to him then he will install the stage 2 upgrades (pulley and injectors) for free, and also give a discount on the stage 2 parts. He said after that they will be developing a “stage 3 big hp kit.” So if anyone with a stage 1 Harrop is nearby his shop, there is an offer on the table for you.
     
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  6. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:27 AM
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    nobodyintexas What?

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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    you misspelled "Guinea pig"

    images_d71d914871d942134698c503a7bbbc9507c47f99.jpg

    I'm a stone's throw from him...I'll go by soon.

    The hootennanny we had going on here has passed.
     
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  7. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:42 AM
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    I can certainly understand some apprehension! They way I look at it, I’ve already achieved guinea pig status by slapping a 2.6 liter blower on my truck without a tune which goes against everything the tuning community knows about forced induction. So getting a custom tune, even if by someone newer to the game, probably isn’t the worst thing. If the place was up the road from me I’d give it a look.
     
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  8. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:49 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    oh Contraire' ... Harrop tested our unit & it safely stayed on the map with the 85mm pulley. they also said it needs a tune for anything over that.

    I confirmed this with dyno results from my installer. (let's leave out my lean codes for now)

    then...I read the stories that @Saltyhero13 so graciously posted, and shudder at having to replace a 3UR.


    with that said...I'll go by there and confirm if my skeptical meter is accurate.

    I'll report back forthwith.

    The main dude is very kind & easy to communicate with. I'm presently working on both those skills....
     
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  9. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM
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    “We cannot support the 21 Sequoia yet.

    Thanks,

    Dinesh Hospeti
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    260 Dickinson Avenue
    League City, TX 77573”
     
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  10. Oct 28, 2021 at 6:09 AM
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    darkknight2014 Mods mods and more mods!!

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    Thanks for the info I’m def looking into this then!!
     
  11. Oct 28, 2021 at 6:30 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    If you have the $, the Harrop solution is quite nice.
     
  12. Oct 28, 2021 at 9:52 AM
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    I sincerely hope this works out to be a great product. Skeptical on the delivery of "Stage 3 big HP" however, at least not without fortifying the engine and transmission.

    This thread has a lot of details that went into his project, its worth the read/watch.
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/pro...-1000-hp-daily-driven-awd-tundra-build.54634/
     
  13. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:17 AM
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    Based on what I’ve read, unless you’re going to build up the engine internally there isn’t more safe power to be had beyond what a stage 2 Harrop with the addition of a 4.5” intake, RCF throttle body, Longtube headers and parallel/Prospeed fuel system, and an ITP valve body can provide. I would have to assume his “stage 3” would be a package consisting of those additional parts but that is a total guess as I don’t believe they are engine builders. That would be pushing it to its max, and at that point you are making 600whp give or take.
     
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  14. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:18 AM
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    "Skeptical on the delivery of "Stage 3 big HP" however, at least not without fortifying the engine and transmission."

    agreed.

    The 2650 Eaton can easily put 14psi into the engine. however, the stock engine can't take it. 8psi is the upper limit - best I can tell.

    I'm OK with my 6psi......for now.

    easy as that.
     
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  15. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:20 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    past stage 2 (8psi)you would, at least, need ...rings, rods & bearings. and an open tab @ discount tire.
     
  16. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:39 AM
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    I think you are 100% correct. The closer to 600WHP the more disproportionately expensive the mods get to squeak out the extra HP.

    I would be happy if the AWD swap was an option for newer model Tundras (2014+).
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/how...013-tundra-to-full-time-awd-capability.54474/
     
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  17. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:43 AM
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    SDHQ built one with the following setup:

    “2014 FFV, Harrop Stage 2, parallel fuel rails, Ti Automotive 450lph fuel pump, delete FFV control valve, all 6AN fittings with 3/8" pressure and return lines, 46psi at idle with boost reference hooked up, 4" intake, stock 76mm throttle body, stock manifolds and coverter, Magna Flo cat back single exhaust.”

    So with factory exhaust manifolds and all the cats in place it made 543whp and 555wtq on a dynapack hub dyno. The same mods but adding long tubes on seems to net you another 50-60hp.
     
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  18. Oct 28, 2021 at 10:44 AM
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    "Sir, will you be having the racing slicks again?"
    "No those were MT Tires."
     
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  19. Oct 28, 2021 at 2:47 PM
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    RE: Pressure ratio question I asked earlier regarding reading the adiabatic map.

    The simple calculation is done by (gauge boost pressure + 14.7 psi)/ 14.7 psi; the adjusted calculation is similar (gauge boost pressure + 14.7 psi)/(14.7 psi - 1 psi for depression)

    So a pressure ratio of 1.3 means you are creating 4.41 gauge boost psi . If you adjusted for depression it means you are creating 3.11 gauge boost psi.

    A pressure ratio of 2 means you are creating 14.7 psi or 13.7 if you use the adjusted formula.

    The article goes into calculating air flow as well as explaining other fundamentals (for turbos and centrifugal superchargers). Just keep in mind some of these factors like surge lines and choke lines wont apply to TVS blowers. The VE still applies.
    https://www.garrettmotion.com/news/...derstanding-calculations-to-turbo-any-engine/
     
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  20. Oct 28, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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  21. Oct 28, 2021 at 3:29 PM
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  22. Oct 28, 2021 at 3:33 PM
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    Have my appointment with Prospeed setup in November to do the following upgrades to my LX 570:
    -Prospeed fuel system (billet fuel rails, 750cc injectors, 450lph in-tank, adjustable FPR, 6AN feed and return lines)
    -American Racing Headers long tube headers 1-3/4" x 3" with high flow cats
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    -Magnuson air box lid with AFe pro dry filter
    -HP Tuners ECM and TCM tuning on an AWD dyno

    Honestly I'm most excited about the tune and the headers. I'm on a stock cat-back so the increase in sound should be subtle in a good way. I don't think the stock catback will be holding me back too much.
     
  23. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:03 PM
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    We are working on a SC patched calibration for all 2018+ Tundras. This calibration will included many of the changes that Toyota added for their FitKit calibration. We should have this available for testing by the end of next week.
     
  24. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:10 PM
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    The black truck beside mine is Harrop charged with 600hp at the wheels, sorry don’t have better pic.. Sounds nasty.
    74DF9CFC-94F5-4E4E-8181-F208309D4E8E.jpg
     
  25. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:16 PM
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    Thank you @Saltyhero13. You are too good to us.
     
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    Any chance for the Sequoias being supported as well? How different are the ECUs compared to Tundras?
     
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  27. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:20 PM
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    Most welcome!

    Trying to share what I find so folks can make informed decisions. Please question what I post or correct any errors I made. I'm not a motor-head mechanic type so I'm trying to get up to speed with the rest of y'all.
     
  28. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:23 PM
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    Welcome to the forums!

    When you are ready I would recommend introducing yourself and your product in a separate thread under "Performance and Tuning" (not sure if special permission is required from the mods)
     
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  29. Oct 28, 2021 at 4:52 PM
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    Is this person a member here? Did they share a build out with you?
    Thnx
     
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  30. Oct 28, 2021 at 5:13 PM
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    Is this the same truck?

    1A349160-2622-4EBA-8742-2A5118FEE38A.jpg
     
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