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Winch, which one to take?

Discussion in 'Recovery & Gear' started by Beni36ti, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Sep 2, 2018 at 1:44 AM
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    Dear all

    I would like to add a winch to my truck but have no experience in that field. I will get the slim bumper so the winch has to fit this part.

    Since our rigs normally are on the heavy side, I assume that one should better look at the 12k models, makes sense?

    Further on, what are the differences between the more low cost winches out there and the more expensive ones?

    Is a smitybuilt x20 winch something I should consider?

    Thank you for your help and input. Cheers from the old continent, Beni
     
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  2. Sep 2, 2018 at 1:56 AM
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    I know its totally different, but when I used to ride sxs , I went through a few winches.....and then I tried Superwinch and they were probably the best one that I had. that thing would pull us out of some crazy holes. if something broke in it, you just call them up and they would send you the replacement parts for free. I would think that their truck winches would be the same.

    whatever winch you decide to get, I would go with the synthetic rope as you dont have to worry about the burrs that happen with the metal wire......plus the metal will kink up after a few uses. you can also get an extension of the synthetic rope and keep it in your truck and it wont take hardly any room.

    https://superwinch.com
     
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  4. Sep 2, 2018 at 8:39 AM
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    Thank you for your feedback
     
  5. Sep 2, 2018 at 8:44 AM
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    I've only had one truck winch and it was a Warn. Super reliable winch! Used it for my own truck recovery, pulling a friend's car off a high-center in the snow, and pulling old fence posts out of the ground.

    Edit: Oh, and you can get yourself a snatch block and effectively double the pulling power of your winch.
     
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    Had two superwinches and a hydraulic mile marker. Both were tough as nails. Warn started out outsourcing the budget line and the purists started defending them and the critics started bashing them. Warn is expensive, but avoid the cheap line.
    Superwinch is as easy as Riley mentioned.
     
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  7. Sep 4, 2018 at 8:12 AM
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    smittybuilt x20(10,00lb or 12.5) synthetic rope..had awesome luck
     
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    I would consider a Smitty with synthetic line. Protecting synthetic line from UV is a good idea.
     
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    Do you guys with synthetic lines wash them? I've read that sand, dirt and other particulates will break down the rope and compromise it over time.
     
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  10. Sep 4, 2018 at 8:27 AM
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    You can wash synthetic line in your clothes washer, just put it in a mesh bag. Or use a 5 gal. bucket. If you use fabric softener it will make the line really nice and pliable. This is pretty commonly done on competition sail boats since salt crystals too break down the fibers. Even if you don't wash the line it will last a very long time. UV isn't good for synthetic line and it comes with a coating to inhibit UV. You can buy coatings like Samthane and paint it on to the line.
     
  11. Sep 4, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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    So when you wash it does it break down that UV coating as well?

    How often do you need to reapply UV protectant?
     
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    Yeah, just like washing your clothes, washing causes a little wear but not much. Almost all single braid synthetic line comes with a hard wearing UV coating. For a winch line you'll probably never "need" to recoat unless you're opening it up for splicing the line. But if you see portions of the line turning white that would indicate the coating has worn off. Example: If you put a new hook on with an eye splice, you might wanna recoat the splice.
     
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    another vote for superwinch. i have the talon 12.5i with synthetic line. also a huge fan of the gear from factor55.
     
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    I've owned Warns and a Ramsey over the years. Very good winches historically. I've got a Smitty 10K X20 and quite pleased so far. 12K is a bit much but you can never have too much. I'm old school and prefer steel rope. Never had steel rope kink up on the spool. Steel rope usually kinks up when the rope isn't properly stretched/prepped before first use. Ask Hi Lead loggers what they use on their yarders. It's not synthetic. Synthetic rope is great for recovery situations and competitions but I'll take steel rope any day. Both options are good.
     
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    I asked the tow truck guys about synthetic and they were enthusiastic about the lack of load if a line snaps, but didn't like the UV breakdown or abrasion resistance. Weight wasn't a factor for them. Now the tug guys and ocean going folks love them, 4wd guys are in the middle.. Depends on your priorities. I went steel. Lots of sun and rocks and mud in California. Never failed me. Never washed it or covered it.. Never sprayed it with sun protectant.
     
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    I am a "Bunny Hill" kinda offroad enthusiast... are there any $450.00 winches for the rare occasions I might need a tug?
     
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    20181016_081547.jpgAssembled properly, winch didn't fit in this slim bumper. Smittybilt 9,500lb X20 that's been submerged in water a few times, good customer service for replacement parts. This is the synthetic rope, previously had the steel cable which I snapped. I'm happy with the X20.
     
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    Unsure what kind of winch you're looking for but I paid less than $300 for mine.
     
  19. Oct 20, 2018 at 6:41 PM
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    This may get a few laughs, but Pirate 4X4 published a very extensive test on winches of different sizes, and different manufacturers. They, and many of us, were shocked that the Harbor Freight winches performed with the best of them.
     
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    Wow!!... a few hundy for a 12k winch! (Harbor Freight)
     
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    -TRS Mini D2S Retrofit on TRD Pro Headlights (Apollo 2.0 Shrouds, 35w XB Ballasts, 5500k Bulbs) -Baja Designs Squadron R Sport Aux lights. -TRD Pro Grill -TRD Rear Sway Bar -BakFlip VP Tonneau w/BakBox -Dipped wheels & bumpers -Iron Cross HD steps -Undercover Swingcase -SunTek Paint Protection film -Tinted glass -Bedmat -OEM Towing Mirrors
    Good to know!
     
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    Would synthetic be an aramid or spectra fiber?
     
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    One important factor is the actual weight rating is based on the length of rope on the spool. The winch has maximum pulling power when on it's last layer. The more rope on the spool the less power you have for pulling. Also, a snatch block will double your pulling power but cut your line-in speed in half. Synthetic line has become super reliable and significantly safer (as well as repairable in the field). UV and abrasion are the biggest factor in it lasting. Finally, Slavin mentioned factor55. Closed system winching is far safer and much easier when you're alone.
     
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    The Harbor Freight winch is a rebadged Smittybilt XRC winch.

    I ran a Warn on my last Tundra and run a Smittybilt X20 on my Jeep. I will probably run the X20 on my Tundra whenever I finally replace the bumper.
     
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    I am about to pull the trigger for an SSO Slimline bumper and the Smitty x20 12k.

    Anyone with that setup who could let me know about fittment and the need for replacing the soleonid?
     
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    No one here with that config?
     
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    I have the smitty x20 on a sdhq mount. I love the setup! I had to remote mount the control box for the winch and had plenty of lead to do so.
    Just make sure before you mount the x20 to replace the switch on the side of the control/solenoid box with a waterproof one. The smitty switch is not water proof... trust me.
     

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