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Why no sport truck/ muscle trucks anymore?

Discussion in 'Performance and Tuning' started by Toolaholic, Dec 6, 2020.

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  1. Dec 6, 2020 at 5:57 PM
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    No market for it...not even Ford or Fiat and all their special trim levels.

    I'd be more inclined to get a slightly used truck and trick it out. I love a good street truck...especially when others get butt-hurt with what you do with your truck.
     
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    Toyota still makes an RCSB Tundra, just not for North America.
     
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    UAE?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Pretty much the 90% of the same thing you do with a 4x4 pickup. And some other cool shyt like whip donuts and go fast, and break necks of onlooking peasants :)
     
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    With the 3Gen front ends? Are you aware of an image collection? I've never stumbled on and pictures other than the ones shops have fabbed up.
     
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  8. Dec 6, 2020 at 6:47 PM
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    That is a golden shower of no....
     
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    I honestly don't know how they are configured over there... here is one with a nasty looking Lexus treatment.
    DUBAI-RCSB-L.jpgDUBAI-RCSB-L.2.jpg
     
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  10. Dec 6, 2020 at 6:52 PM
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    Yes, but hold the donuts.
     
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    Dirty bagels?
     
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    No, I just like my tires to last.
     
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    I recall you sharing those some time ago but alway thought they were one-ofs. When you said that they were still made, I thought you were suggesting current model years. Or did I misunderstand?
     
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  14. Dec 6, 2020 at 6:58 PM
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    Current models is what I understand, I don't know if they are standard 2nd gen or one of the refreshed exteriors.
     
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    I wonder if they have Toyota dealerships there and we could browse their stock for images....

    Addendum: There are dealerships, looking for pics...
     
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    Wouldn't a lowered truck ride on the bumps if loaded/towing? Seems rather dangerous and prone to damage.

    Stock engine? :D
     
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    Not if done correctly. It wouldn't necessarily need to be lower either, most 2WD trucks are lower than the 4WDs of the same make/model.
     
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    Not if it's done right.

    I lowered the bed on mine 3.25", the ground clearance / scrub line is unchanged and I added air bags to aid in hauling & towing so I don't ride on the bump stops. The truck rides and handles great.

    The picture was taken before I sorted out the exhaust.

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    Same setup here Rex and I tow my 16ft trailer loaded with my toys and another 900lbs in bed without issues and in fact smoother than my prior 15' DC. Now I have to pump my air bags to 75psi but that's what I bought them for :thumbsup:
     
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    That’s if it was home made. Something properly designed from the factory would not have that issue. I remember Toyota used to make the X-Runner Tacoma with special Bilstein suspension. That was a nice riding sports truck. My good friend had one, drove across states with bed full of furniture.

    Toyota actually benchmarked it with the 350z when it was developed. I thought no way, until sitting and driving my buddy’s X runner. Very well sorted.

    I think a truck made for off-roading isn’t very good in terms of payload and towing. That’s why the ratings are so low. Also, It’s too high to load and unload for doing work all the time.
     
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    Not really unless you're talking high speed desert/crawl, but those builds are an extreme compromise. An overland build can carry lots of weight, IIRC, Deaver custom builds leaf packs with more capacity than stock.
     
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    Hey if Toyota comes out with the rumored twin turbo one will be able to tune it for some serious HP.....
     
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    Tuning up a turbo engine is costly and risky. Look at the WRX and STI world. The current 2.0 turbo in a WRX can safely be tuned for about 50 additional HP, but it only happens if you add an intake, kill the EGR, and open up the exhaust. If you start adding anymore power than that you get into the realm of needing to upgrade everything else on the car. Brakes, intercooler, internals, the turbo itself, etc. All of these come with increased risk of grenading the engine, too. Gotta pay to play. At that point, why not just get an older truck and upgrade it with a supercharger? You'll be money ahead compared to a new truck plus parts and tune.
     
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    Yes for sure. In 40+ years of driving i have had a number of turbocharged vehicles, most with a manual transmission. I didn't say it was a inexpensive or wise financial decision.

    I am digging the peace of mind that comes with Toyota's old school, time-tested NA V8...cheers
     
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    Manual and turbocharged is some fun for sure! Not sure I'd want it in a truck, though. I do get a hankering for my WRX at times, but I think I'd be just as happy with something out of the Lexus performance line. I'll never be able to afford it, but I like to dream! :rofl:
     
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    Suspension technology has improved to the point where high riding vehicles can have excellent on road handling characteristics, so not anywhere near as much demand for “street trucks” anymore. The aftermarket takes care of those who still want them.
     
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HFP-S65-3 Quantum Fuel Pump Strainers (QTY 3) Replacement for Chrysler Dodge Ford Toyota Lexus Jeep Mitsubishi (2006-2018), Replaces E7081H
$17.98
BETOOLL 0-140PSI Fuel Injector Injection Pump Pressure Tester Gauge Kit Car Tools (Master)
$30.99
Motivx Tools Oil Filter Wrench for Toyota Camry, Tundra, Tacoma, 4Runner, RAV4 and More - 64mm 14 Flute Precision CNC Machined Aluminum Oil Filter Removal Tool
$29.95
Toyota Genuine (PTR03-34079) Intake Flow Accelerator
$32.01
Allstar Performance ALL46110-48 (48") Gauge Line Kit, Silver
$28.99
WIX Racing Filters Air Filter Panel
$29.65
BOOSTane Professional Octane Booster, Formulated to Increase Octane for High-Performance Race Engines, 32oz (1 Pack)
$32.99
ATL CFD-504 CFD System- 2 Wire Standard Wire-Thru Bulkhead
$39.99
Continental OE Technology Series 4081124 8-Rib, 112.4" Multi-V Belt
$44.69
Gates K081124HD FleetRunner Micro-V Serpentine Drive Belt
$37.88
Carista OBD2 - Bluetooth OBD2 Scanner and App - Car Scanner Diagnostic Tool and Code Reader with Access to Diagnostics, Customizations, Service Tools, and Live Data
$39.99
Orion Motor Tech Gear Puller Set, 3" 4" 6" 8" 3 Jaw Puller Kit for Pulley Gear Bearing Flywheel Removal, Heavy Duty Pulley Puller with Reversible Jaws 4 pcs Bearing Puller Tool Kit
$39.99
Schumacher Electric Battery Load Tester and Voltmeter, BT-100, 100 Amps, 6 Volt, 12 Volt, for Testing Batteries Up to 1000 Cranking Amps
$43.85
DENSO IKH20 Iridium Power Spark Plug Ikh20 X 4Pieces Ignition Plugs Racing Upgrade
$39.81
Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit - Made in USA
$37.99
Original Fumoto F103N with LC-10 lever clip FN-Series Engine Oil Drain Valve, 1 Pack
$36.49
Orion Motor Tech Hose Clamp Pliers, Long Reach Wire Spring Hose Clamp Pliers Remover for Automotive Coolant Radiator Heater and Water Hose with Band Flat or Large Clamps
$39.99
EDGELEC 100pcs 5mm Red Blinking Diffused LED Diodes 1.5Hz Flash (Single Color Flashing) Round Lens 29mm Lead DC 2V Blink Bulb Lamp Light Emitting Diode +100pcs Resistors 470ohm for DC 6-12V Included
$8.99
9" Length Fuel Filter Calipers Fuel Line Pliers In-Line Fuel Filter Tool Fuel Filter Line Pipe Hose Quick Release Pliers Remover
$9.99
SABRENT USB 2.0 to Serial (9 Pin) DB 9 RS 232 Converter Cable, Prolific Chipset, HEXNUTS, [Windows 11/10/8.1/8/7/VISTA/XP, Mac OS X 10.6 and Above] 2.5 Feet (CB-DB9P)
$9.99
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