Why is payload so low?

In this case, it's just because the Tundra is a heavy pig compared to other 2021 trucks. The 7200 lb GVWR is pretty much on par with the competitors.

 

The Tundra is a heavy pig, my 2021 DC empty with just me weighed in at 6,100 lbs.

 

Exactly.

The GVWRs are roughly the same...it's just that the F150 and Silverados weigh MUCH less than the Tundra when empty. Thus, they can carry more lbs before they hit their GVWR.

A 6k lb truck with a GVWR of 7200lb has 1200lb of capacity. That's the only math that matters. Gross - curb = capacity.

 

And more options you add the less payload it’s get

 

It's clear who the winner is then.
End of discussion.

 

The funny part is that, I’ll bet, for 80% of truck owners a ridgeline does more than enough.

 

Well it is the only 3/4 ton

 

By that standard then every vehicle besides a coupe is a 1/2 ton vehicle, at which point why call anything a half ton if everything can handle a half ton. "Yes I'd like a Tundra, but make sure it can't actually carry anything more than my camry since it's a half ton". Now how they should label shit, I don't care, but in my mind a "half ton" means you can carry a half ton AFTER you load the rest of the truck (people and shit inside). Half ton + 4 thiccq bois = really 2000lbs, more valid labeling imo.

I'll start referring to my friends cars as half tons though since it is valid

 

I guess it isn't a thing in the US, but in other parts of the world--like Australia--it is common to have vehicles upgraded and certified for a higher GVWR (called "GVM" over there). Google "GVM upgrade" and you'll see what I mean. They beef up the suspension and maybe a few other components. Shame it isn't a thing here cause I'm sure it works. They've been doing it forever.

 

I know what you meant, big on the outside but weak on the inside. A Hilux with 1000kg (2200 lbs) has the same payload capability as a 1 ton (2000 lbs). Anyone can make a truck big to carry heavy, but it's more impressive to design a small truck to do big things.

 

If the 'Kerb weight' and 'Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM)' is similar to our Curb weight and GVWR, wish they can bring the Landcruiser 70 series here.

 

Is any payload thread complete if someone doesn't link to the 9,000-lb Tundra?

 

I thought the gvwr was only 6900 pounds? At least that is what I am seeing on the sticker inside of my door.

 

It's slightly different for different models. 4x4s get 7200 lbs (not sure if you need the towing package too). Might also be a difference between CM and DC.

 

Got it! Thank You very much. The added weight is the additional 4x4 gear added. Im also having issues with payload, meaning I guess I should have done my homework issues. Im having trouble finding a decent sized travel trailer for my wife and I to go roaming in, that doesnt have a tongue weight loaded under 700 pounds. Thats almost half of the max cargo weight left on my truck after taking off the WDH and running boards i added to the truck. Anyhoo..Thanks again

 

2021 Honda Ridgeline can tow 5000lbs and max hitch weight 500lbs, so sorry, no winner.

What is the max hitch weight for the Tundra?

 

It's simple. Tires have a load and speed rating car makers put tires on and rate to that. Also if you look at the suspension parts they're very tiny parts looks like they took a tacoma and stuck its parts on the truck. The links are tiny and thin. The axel is tiny. You look at another truck rated higher everything suspension and axel are thicker metal. Thicker metal can carry more weight.

 

I don't think any of us know the real limitations that set the GVWR where it is. Sans Toyota of course. It could be anything from how well the parking brake holds on an incline to braking distance to frame flex. You can bet it isn't something as simple as adding 1mm thickness to each rear leaf spring to increase the GVWR by 100# of Toyota would have done that years ago. At least with the Big Three payload numbers are very important to the marketing of their trucks. Maybe Toyota refuses to play these games instead flying the reliability and safety flags to attract buyers. That approach worked for me.

I wonder if the safe limit decreases with age or a certain amount of frame rust is part of the equation.

An interesting anecdote is the Gen 3 hybrid. The curb weight is higher and so is the GVWR as compared to the non hybrid.

 

A non-hybrid lower trim 3rd gen with whatever parts they use to make the hybrid’s GVWR so much higher could be an easy way for Toyota to offer a higher payload package.

That is, if they care to do so

 

They pick the weakest part then.do.the rating off that say an axle can hold 10lbs tires only 9lbs then they go 9lbs let's do 8lbs. With regulations for tax rates this truck is taxed 15 percent this other rateing is only 12 percent. In bc you buy a ram 2500 it's 15 percent you buy a 3500 it's only 12. Some makers set rateings in areas off rules for road limits and taxs. A semi truck can be a max of 36000lbs with cargo. Get a gas one weight is say 20000lbs then it's 16000lb of cargo if.the electric one is 20000lbs then the cargo is only 6000lbs. That's the problem with the tesla semi its heavy so it loses cargo capacity and can heal less freight. That's the law to keep the roads from breaking down. Company's can set any number they want but limit it to parts. Look at what's under the truck thickness of frames reinforcements thicker axles ect. The frame between the box and cab matters. The axel matters as it can bend into a C shape. The tire rating matters comercial trucks have vomercial rims and tires usually 16 inch steel rims with a flat road tire. Heavy duty trucks buck like crazy on bumps until you put a load in them. So you can drive a lighter truck empty and have a nice ride or drive something that bucks like a bronco and feel every bump