Which gas-powered, one-ton, 4x4 truck would you get?

The extra $10,000 in initial price, the emissions equipment on modern diesel trucks, weight balance when unloaded off-road, and I don't need 900ft-lbs of torque. For anyone who says something like "you can delete your DPF" it's simply not worth the cost. For one example the Freerksen Trucking Company was fined $50,000 for removing/defeating factory emissions equipment and was also awarded the joy of re-installing said equipment. As another example TSI Diesel and Performance was fined for installing equipment that defeated emissions equipment. A lot of idiots that roll coal are drawing a lot of attention and I'm more concerned with payload than towing 20,000 lbs anyway. I can also buy a lot of gas for $10,000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFKTkyjzNhI

 

What's the gearing in that truck? Since you know a lot more about GM products than I do, what's the big difference in the packages between Chevy and GMC?

 

Makes sense, I just assume anyone buying a 1ton needs the towing numbers. I just trailer for heavy payload. Easier load in and load out

 

How much payload do you need? The nice thing about the gas option is that it actually gives you an extra 1,000 lbs of payload. Can you get away with a 3/4 ton? Rides a little better - alot better for the Ram lineup.

 

That sums it up for me right there. I'll still never pull over 10-12k, I just don't have a need for a bigger toyhauler. But I do load the bed heavy frequently and the my tongue weight on the toyhauler fluctuates drastically if it's loaded with toys or if my fresh water tank is full.

The price to add a diesel engine made sense 15-20 years ago. They were simple engines that got pretty good MPG, plus diesel was cheaper than gas back then.

I would buy a SRW 1 ton for the strong frame, suspension, and axles. Now if I towed an ag tractor or a mini-ex on the interstate 2-3 days a week I may reconsider a diesel just for drive-ability.

The other thing that I always consider is the option to easily haul a slide-in camper. I have considered this many times in the last 10 years. Slide-in camper + small utility trailer makes for an easy way to carry toys without the hassle of a larger toy hauler.

 

Godzilla is official. Ford announced it yesterday. The 7.3 Gas engine is going in the 2020 Superduty.

https://www.tfltruck.com/2019/02/ne...ore-diesel-power-and-a-new-7-3l-gas-v8-video/

 

Saw that and they kept to keeping it simple as well which is a good thing for truck motors. Curious what the power figures will be, Gm also announced a 6.6l gas motor to as well.

 

Heres the spec for the Gm 6.6 gas

6.6L Gas V8
Horsepower: 401 @ 5,200 rpm
Torque: 464 lb-ft @ 4,000 rpm
Block: Cast iron w/ nodular iron main caps
Cylinder Head: Cast aluminum
Compression Ratio: 10.8:1

 

The Ford 7.3 gas has a beefed up lower end , it's just like the GM LS1 which was the best engine I ever ran. 4 bolt mains with 2 cross bolts. Colorado TJ has a good video to watch. I've owned 3 Ford F250 Diesel 4x4 solid machines for Hauling my boat and campers. But I would never buy another Diesel again .
And I would never buy a first year model truck with an unproven Engine, after Ford put out the 6.0 Diesel we all know how that turned out$$$

I said it before and I'll say it again my Tundras have both been bullet proof, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

 

Ford. I do work for fleets, oil, gas and coal industry. I own Chevy’s and Ford’s. Ford builds a stronger more durable truck. The Ram most often are not chosen by those I do work for in the industry.

 

The 7.3 design sounds simple and bulletproof. No reinventing the wheel here. I like the 10 speed auto as well. Waiting for numbers, specifically torque and MPG.

Over 500 tq would be awesome. If they can get those numbers and somewhere north of 15mpg this will be a big seller.

 

I will be keeping my eye on that story as more information is revealed. Not a big fan of the looks of the Ford SD, but this option has really peaked my interest. I would love to have a diesel, but I am a little weary of the new emissions stuff and the extra upkeep. I am also more concerned with payload than towing. Maybe I will just say eff it and get a F350 with a 7.3. Old-school push-rod design. Really like this idea....

 

If i wanted a 1 ton truck. Ford is the only choice. Im not a ram fan, and chevy has IFS so that leaves ford by default

 

I'm very interested to see reliability and recalls in the first year. Waiting for a leftover or low mile trade would be nice.
From what I've read the 6.2L was very reliable. Hopefully that carries over into an even simpler 7.3.
F350, 7.3, 4x4, Crew Cab, XLT, Long Bed, SRW...

 

I hear that. Although, this engine design looks pretty simple, which is attractive and might lure someone into buying first year. I still probably wouldn't do it.

 

Nothing, but if i were to go to a bigger 1 ton i would want it as an added perk

 

Very simple to lift big

 

'Merica!!!

 

But, all things being equal, I won't ever have IFS in a HD truck when I get one. Old argument - solid vs IFS, and it won't ever be "settled", but I don't think IFS systems are as strong. Can they be made to be strong enough? Yep, but I believe that they are an inherently weaker design. Just my opinion - and those are like assholes - everybody has one. So Chevy is also off the table for me - plus they sit too damn low to the ground for my liking.

 

I owned chevy for many years. Drove me nuts that the wheel wells are so square you have to lift the heck out of it to fit 35’s

 

I dont believe there is any difference in reliability between solid axle and IFS in the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. The IFS has really proven itself in the Chevys, if it was a real issue they would have gone to solid axle by now. I dont think it's hurting their sales.

The cons to solid axle are the ball joints and axle seals. Both are a real nightmare and known issue with ford and dodge. The cons to IFS being the CVs, but everything else is fairly stoudt and serviceable.

I will always prefer Ford out of the big 3, but I think it's unrealistic to say solid axle is inherently better than IFS. Especially given the track record of ford and dodge front ends needing to be rebuilt 3x prior to 100k.

All that said, super duty front ends will hold up with reasonable tires and a steering stabilizer.