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Which gas-powered, one-ton, 4x4 truck would you get?

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by computeruser6, Sep 4, 2018.

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Which truck?

  1. Ram 3500 6.4L

  2. Ram 3500 5.7L

  3. Ford F-350

  4. Chevy Silverado 3500

  5. GMC Sierra 3500

  6. Court Jester (Titan XD)

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  1. Sep 5, 2018 at 4:37 AM
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    Interesting discussion. My original vote was on a brand new truck as of 2018 offerings.

    If you don’t mind going a little older, check out the GM 3500 with the 8.1L/Allison combo. 01-07

    If you tow really heavy, get the 4.10 gears, and I mean max GCWR. My brother has an 01 Chevy 2500/8.1L/Allison/3.73 gears and gets better than most on here on the freeway. His first trip home with it from western Montana to eastern Montana he did 15.7 mpg. After removing the torque management on both of his 8.1’s he even gets a little better. He now gets 15.9 mpg empty. In town or towing it sucks.

    Truck quirts:
    -all 8.1L motors burn a little oil. Not a huge deal. 1/2 qt per oil change.
    - 5 speed Allison. I think the last two years of the 8.1L offering had 6 speeds.
    - these trucks are unicorns. They are out there, but gonna have to look hard.
     
  2. Sep 5, 2018 at 6:58 AM
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    These trucks are awesome. I installed 502 BB in my 79 dually stayed with the turbo 400 trans but had it gone through and up graded internals to handle the added power and torque The 502 is a beast. I get 12 mpg in town or freeway unloaded that's with 373 gearing
     
  3. Sep 6, 2018 at 4:44 AM
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    I'll probably make a separate thread for diesel one-ton trucks just to see if the results change any. My main reasons for not wanting diesel though are the extra thousand pounds of weight on the front end and extra $10,000 up front. For going off-road and hauling junk in the bed I would just prefer to deal with a gas engine. Did I mention the extra $10,000 in up-front cost? I'll also bump this thread once in a while just to get more votes over time. I was also just curious what trucks forum members would pick and for what reasons. I also wanted to separate rating the diesel and gas trucks from each other. This is just me ranting now, but I still think it's stupid that Chevy uses torsion bars in the front of their 2500/3500 trucks.
     
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  4. Sep 6, 2018 at 4:45 AM
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    Something else I was also wondering: why pick Chevy over GMC and vice versa? Are there any notable mechanical differences?
     
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    Mechanical, no. Options, yes.

    One of my good friends just purchased a 2015 Chevy LTZ 3500. The same package I have in the GMC is quite a bit different.
     
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    GMC typically have more bells and whistles over Chevrolet. Drive train is the same.
     
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    Yes, they did.
     
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    I would go with the Ram with the 6.4, cheapest by far when comparing similar equipped trucks, solid front axle decent reliable truck. I looked at a couple last night, you can get around $9k to $10k off the sticker so you can get a nicely equipped SLT for around $44k.
     
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    If I had to pick a diesel, my choices would likely be 7.3 or a 6.6 Duramax. I’ve ran the 6.6 for work, damn good engine even though mine had a wonky DEF sensor that never got fixed. The 7.3’s just seem to be reliable as hell, my buddy owns two of em and he’s never had a bad thing to say. And it’s especially nice that they can be had for $8500-15000.
     
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    I'd go with the 6.7 f350. Seems like it'd be the most reliable. The Cummins is great but, it's surrounded by a dodge and it'd suffer electrical problems down the road. The Duramax is good also, but it also iseems surrounded by GM build quality and it would rattle itself apart. Lol
     
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    All 3 trucks have the potential for electrical problems. Within the 3/4 ton market, you're not going to find a whole lot of difference in terms of reliability and mechanical build quality. Ford still probably has the best interiors (at the higher trim levels), but for the purposes of work applications, all 3 trucks will last a good long time as long as they are maintained.
     
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    Yeah they all have a risk of electrical problems, but I feel ford is the best chance of getting one without an electrical problem. Plus ford doesn't have a as big reputation for shitty plastics, or major electrical problems that would leave you stranded
     
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    Surprised to see so many pick the ford 7.3 over the dmax, this for reliability or ease of working on it? I have two buddies who are into racing, one has a f350 dually 7.3 with a banks kit hauling a 30ft trailer, other has a 3500 chevy dmax stock beside an upgraded long range tank like 76gals or something crazy he hauls a 40ft gooseneck. My buddy with the 7.3 ford cannot keep up pace with that dmax, and once you hit the mtns forget it as it falls way behind and the trans is always overheating. Another advantage the Chevy dmax has is the Allison Trans.
     
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    I'm surprised as well - the Dmax and 7.3 suggestions when the OP asked about a gasser. Strange indeed. ;)

    As far as the Ford over Chebby thing - some of us just don't like 'em. I'm one of them.
     
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    Depending on what year Dmax, they have ~100 hp more.

    The Allison has been in service for a very long time.
     
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    Why all the love for the 7.3 then? I would gladly take 100 more hp and a better trans if I was looking for a diesel.
     
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    I don’t. I voted for the Ford 6.2L gas motor. If going older the Ford 6.8L v10 was a good option, but I would go GM 8.1/Alison 1000 before any of them. True big block V8 with a killer transmission.
     
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    For me, it being pre-DEF makes it attractive. I had 3 different Duramax’s at my last job: one had a fuel injection issue, one had a DEF issue, and one had a turbo that sounded like it was about to blow every time I stepped on it. The one with the DEF issue would say it was low on it even when I’d just filled it the previous day. Royal pain in the ass, but other than that it was a great truck. All were 2011-2012’s. Plus, the 7.3 holds appeal because I have multiple buddies who have that engine and know how to work on em and will do so for free :thumbsup:
     
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    Is the 7.3 Powerstroke a mechanical injection engine? Or did they put computer controls on them? I know in the 90's was when they phased out mechanical injection engines on big rig trucks for computer controlled fuel injection(still didn't have emissions controls).
     
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    So the 7.3l psd has a high pressure oil pump (HPOP) and a solenoid that fires the injector.

    Good read.

    http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/ex...how-high-pressure-oil-injection-systems-work/

    Oh, you never want to swap out the HPOP, ever....ever ever ever. Squeeze your nuts in a vise instead and punch yourself in the face.
     
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    I had a 7.3 for a short spell. I really liked that truck. It was tuned and quite fun. However, that thing wasn't much fun to work on - that is for sure.
     
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    One of my off road buddies pulled the motor on his 2001 F350 and did some work to it.

    Short list:
    Head studs (400 hp is it on factory studs)
    Turbo
    Large sticks, think they were 150 hp
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    And a few other little goodies.

    He dyno’d 495hp 1005tq. He let me tow with it once, pretty sweet tow machine. Cost 10k though.
     
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    Crazy thing is that stock diesels are just about pulling those numbers nowadays.....
     
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    I know right?

    440/925 Ford
    445/910 GM
    385/900 Ram
     
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    Alright, who picked the Titan XD?

    truck poll.jpg
     
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    LOL! I bet it was one of those Raptor fans.
     
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    Ford's interiors are nicer, at least in earlier model years.

    As for Ford not having a reputation for electrical problems, I'd encourage you to go read up on the problems with 6.0 Powerstroke's wiring harness chaffing itself to death. Plenty of people got left on the side of the road because of those problems. In fact, in all the TFL pickup tests, the only 2 times I can recall where a vehicle just plain failed and stopped on the side of the road was a test of the F-250 (gasser) and the new F-150 diesel.

    In years past, every brand had its own problems. Nowadays, most of those problems have been ironed out.
     
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    Yeah the 6.0 has a reputation of having bad head studs, and blowing head gaskets.
     
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