Whats the purpose of a double cab?

You are NOT my enemy and i NEVER, NEVER, NEVER thought any negative towards you = FORGIVE me if i crossed the line with you

My personal real world bias - i TRIED and TRIED to buy a pre-22 Tundra CC/5.5B but could not because of my real world needs

Even the 6.5 Bed is small to me(real world needs) and yet i went out and purchased a New 2025 Tundra CC/6.5B but then returned it the next day for various reasons of which the NHTSA WARNING was my GREATEST concern = loved the truck and wish i could of kept it.

All my friends have CC/5.5B and i hope that you and i can become friends as well.

 

My Dear FRIEND,

RE Post 176 = It is a well know fact that ALL manufacturers(Ford/GM/Toyota/RAM) have put out MAJOR FAILS on their trucks in the past 5 years

Forums are loaded with pissed-off New Truck Owners having Trans failures, Engine failures, Electronic failures and on and on

The HIGH price of trucks today with their HIGH failure/problem issues has alot of people RIGHTFULLY uneasy/upset/unhappy

We are on here to share info, preferences, likes/dislikes, grunts and lols

QUESTION: Could we have placed too much trust on computers/tech in the new designs???

 

Being as they offer a crewmax 6.5 bed, they really didn’t need to even create a double cab model. Extra expense on parts

 

i LIKED the dimensions you posted as a cui reference

We all know that numbers on paper can be misleading as the most important factor can be for many = Bed Length

Personal Bias = That extra foot of length is why i need the 6.5 and why i LOVE the 8ft = all personal needs

With that said: If it ain't 4WD it just ain't (waiting for the 2WD Owners)

 

Unless you prefer the 8ft Bed as many do.

Toyota shortened the DblCab and as such some who owned the pre-22 DblCab/8 moved on from Toyota OR settled for the CC with 6.5

I ABSOLUTELY loved the GM 2500 with CC and their 6'10" Bed = BEST of Both Worlds!!!

However the 2500 is a BIG Truck and way overkill for my needs as well as my health situation= hip surgery and hurting knees(i am older and suffered from Lymes since i was a teenager)

 

I wasn't directing my comment towards you directly. Just being aware enough to know that when one tends to correct other's over trivial bs on a forum, it comes with labels. We're good.

 

I don't need to go back to that post again- unless you edited it, it's still irrelevant. You're conflating 2 topics that are completely unrelated to each other.
Consumer demand (crew cabs, long beds, infotainment, heated cooled seats, tailgates that open like Rubik's cubes, etc, etc) has nothing to do with 3 Letter agency imposed regulations resulting in design/component/product changes. Particularly changes that have (save a small percentage relative to units produced) improved performance of the Tundra. More HP; more torque, earlier to do your "6.5' bed truck stuff." You should be scorching your shorts over it.

 

I doubt there is different widths and depths measurements between the two bed lengths.

 

Read better.

2 different generations of Tundras.

 

Dammit! I was distracted by Bill...

 

There is no replacement for displacement
Those who desire compression have learned their lesson
Reliablity Rulz Tec-No-knowledgely
Tundra V8s go well over 150k with basic maintanence
V6 Twin Blunder cannot bypass V8 Thunder when they die under 50k
Over 100k Engine Replace Recalls and COUNTING
When this is all over the pre-22 Tundras will still be STANDING

 

Except the ones with rusted frames....

 

While true to a certain extent forced induction rules the roost when it comes to HP out of a moderate sized engine.
And Toyotas have proven over and over they can handle the extra pressure.
There are very few vehicles out there other than the high HP vehicles like say the Vet that that can scratch that HP itch!!
While I could buy a Corvette it doesnt do what I want my vehicle to do which is haul trailers and go offroad.
Dont get me wrong,I'd love to have a Vet but the the Wife would have Kittens if I were to bring one home....
So I resort to forced induction...and the Wife still thinks of it as a truck,and so does the insurance company....for the most part,as long as you dont tell they dont know.
I see it as a Win Win....
Correct me if I'm wrong....

 

To state it that way is to pretend that having 6 cylinders vs 8 is the key to making good power. Toyota has really only demonstrated that you can make an otherwise anemic engine produce adequate power with about 20psi of boost for likely half the service life. The V6 is nothing without boost. A V8 already has pretty good base power. Throw even a measly 4 psi at it and it produces significantly more than the boosted V6 while remaining reliable.

 

Rust does not discriminate.

 

Time to kick over thr beehive
Ive also wondered why people would pay top dollar for a 14 year old design , engine and tech in the 2nd gen. Reliability is great but except for the tundra nobody pays for old designs

 

Actually, many people do.
Many more are uninformed (or believe the hype) and just go buy the latest and supposed greatest.

What is my 1970 GTO worth today and how many people would be standing in line to buy it at $30k.........i paid $700 for it in 1980

My 2018 Tundra with 56k miles along with scratches and quite a few small dings on the outside bed area sold for $32k
Now add to that $32k the cost of a round trip plane ticket from California(Buyer) and another $1,700 he paid to have it towed back to CA and another $300 to have it detailed = $35k

I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to buy a good condition 1997 T100 with Manual Trans and if I were financially well-off these would be my vehicles:
a.) 1997 T100 with manual trans
b.) My 1970 GTO back
c.) My 1981 Z28 Camaro
d.) My 2013 Tundra DblCab 8ft Bed
e.) My 2018 Tundra TRD SR5 DblCab 8ft
f.) My 2007 RAM 2500 5.9 Cummins
g.) almost forgot my 1969 Grand Prix (paid $700 with 56k original miles)
h.) 2018 Subaru Forester with manual trans (Subaru stopped making manual trans in Forester)
i.) STIHL 044 Slant Fin = mine had 200 psi compression STOCK and will rip your hand off if you did not master it

i am sure other Toyota owners on here have their own favorite "old school tech" vehicles back as well if $$$ were flowing easy

 

It never sleeps either.

 

You think classic cars and 8 year old tundras are the same ?
Lol

 

Based on that logic if I've got a $500 budget for my next car, I should swing by Barrett Jackson when the classics are coming through right? Because no one will pay for those old designs

 

Someone said: "Ive also wondered why people would pay top dollar for a 14 year old design , engine and tech in the 2nd gen. Reliability is great but except for the tundra nobody pays for old designs"

pre-22 Tundras are now in the 'classic' designation when compared to the 'New Unimproved Tundras'

 

Lol just lol

 

Dbl cab you can get 8 ft bed. That's what I'm looking at but not sold on a 3.5 turbo to pull my camper.

 

If you have a heavy camper or tow long distance, go Diesel

I was going to buy the Silverado 1500 Duramax 3.0L which gives 30-35 mpg highway(not towing) but did not like having to add DEF and must use quality diesel.

Other then diesel you have the tried and true pre-22 Tundra with the 5.7L V8, strong 6 speed Trans and 4.30 Rear

My 2018 Tundra pulled my Deep V 18 foot boat with 75hp Merc and NEVER hesitated on the loooong PA/NY hills.

Never broke down, never overheated, never a hiccup!!!
And i cruised between 70 and 90 on a 4 hour drive

 

Because for some folks, reliability matters. Kinda like bed space. And $20-30k is more half off of what most people are paying for their gen 3 twin turbos. How's that top dollar? If your trying to troll the earlier gen tundra owners you're going to have to bring more heat.

 

I paid 5k for my 2006 Tundra and 20k for my 2016 Tundra and the reason I’m to happy pay 20k for a 14 year old design is a proven, simple, reliable, easy to work on and maintain, vehicle, that doesn’t beep at me or not allow me, a grown man, to lock or unlock the doors when I want to, etc. is exactly what I want.

When all the 2016-2017 Tundras and Landcruisers are gone I genuinely don’t know what I will buy or drive. There’s not a single new vehicle that appeals to me in the slightest.

We’ve been searching for the next vehicle for the wife for some time because we haven’t found the used options she wants close to us and she is the same and is not looking forward to the day she’s stuck in a new POS.

We also have old Chevy work trucks and a few Hondas (2013 Pilot and 2015 Fit) in the family and it’s the same with any company. Those were just the last years vehicles were still worth buying.

Also pretending 20-30k isn’t a far cry off from paying 90k after all the interest on your brand new super computer is wild haha. I’ll take 3 used trucks and two used motorcycles for the price of one new one with worse turn radius, less space, and less enjoyable to drive, any day.

 

And the congregation said: AMEN

But there are those who will cry "crucify him"

Seems poignant being the Season

 

Not really. You're reading into something that isn't there, just so you can make a point literally everyone already agrees with. My post you quoted only states that Toyota found a way to demonstrate that a v8 isn't necessary for grocery gettin' !! Yes it took the boost, but that was the way they demonstrated it.

Wurdzz iz haard.

 

I do suppose wurdzz iz haard when you use them one way with a clear message, only to claim they meant something else later. Your post says that V8 > V6 logic is flawed. Is it still flawed logic, or is it now not flawed since “everyone agrees with it.”? Anyway, I had no intent to argue or insinuate others are dumb and can’t comprehend “wurdzz”. Not really interested in continuing down that path. I guess everything read on a screen comes off as argumentative at face value or something.

 

Once again, no it doesn't.

read. the. post. i. was. re.sponding. to.

nevermind, I'll hold your hand:

Guy 1 "6.5' bed is always better than 5.5' bed"
Me: "Using that logic (Guy 1's, not mine), one could say that a v8 is always better than a v6. But Toyota just demonstrated a flaw in that logic, by throwing a boost in front of the v6 giving better performance from the V6 than the non-boosted v8 everyone loves.
You: "Listen idiot - if you put a boost in front of a v8, its gonna outperform a boosted v6"
Me: "Correct, but nobody is arguing against that specific position."
You: "Cherry pick wurdzz from a post to misrepresent what was actually said."


You claim to not want to argue, but are you at least noticing your pattern of not comprehending a post, then "arguing" a point that was never made?

Can we get back to how much more awesome Crew Max's are for getting groceries and other soccer mom things?