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What to replace in Suspension

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by romezter, Jul 5, 2020.

  1. Jul 5, 2020 at 4:01 AM
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    I searched and couldn’t find anything. I’m looking to replacing the ucas and purchase a steering and suspension kit. Comes with (2 front lower ball joints, 2 front outer tie rods, 2 front sway bar links, 2 upper ball joints, & 2 front inner tie rods). Is this good maintenance ? My first truck and I bought it lifted
     
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    Everything there sounds like a good idea, but don't go cheap on these parts. Particularly the lower ball joints on these trucks, it's a game of luck when going aftermarket so better to buy those from Toyota. Everything else aftermarket isn't too bad.
     
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  4. Jul 5, 2020 at 10:21 AM
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    @Darkness 187k miles I live in Los Angeles luckily there’s no frame rust. I have to get back and take pictures.
     
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    Gotta love living in SoCal for that reason. I cringe when see other trucks on this forum with rust.
     
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  6. Jul 5, 2020 at 9:20 PM
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    This is the setup the truck has. I think it has spacers on the struts

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    looks like 5100s on stock springs with the perches on maybe the 3rd notch. better than a spacer lift..
     
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    Is this a good setup should I buy new springs and shock absorber ?
     
  9. Jul 5, 2020 at 10:46 PM
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    energy suspension isolators and ARB 885 springs on the same shocks you have but bottom perch is what i run for 2" of lift. rides amazing.
     
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    Thank you for the advice I’ll definitely look into that I want the truck to ride smooth
     
  11. Jul 6, 2020 at 6:15 AM
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    How old are those shocks? If new(er) just keep your current set up and/or drop the perch so you come down a notch or two. You’ll loose a little lift, but the truck will drive better per others that have had Billys and regretted setting them too high on stock springs.

    Put a rear Hellwig 7700 Sway Bar on and be amazed at your road driving handling improvement. Gurrls be flocking to yo truck. :rofl:
     
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  12. Jul 6, 2020 at 6:56 AM
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    I bought the truck like this around 2 weeks ago. I noticed the ride is a bit stiff but I’m assuming it has to do with being lifted ?
     
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    Billy Bobs set too high probably is the reason. Many report doing the cool thing and setting the Billys high so that they look ‘leveled’ and really cool, but then regret doing so as the ride is harsh. I believe the second notch is the highest the Access Cab can be allowed to go per Billy.

    Fully disclosure: I have Billy Bobs and set to one notch up from stock. They are a stiff shock and I’ve reported on this on many occasion. My truck has the off road package OEM Original heavier springs upfront so this may be a reason, as well. These are great shocks for street and highway style driving. They tow and haul nicely. Off road or poor road driving and you may let these guys talk you into spending $3-5k on some nice equipment.


    Whats your budget?
     
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  14. Jul 6, 2020 at 3:20 PM
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    I’m looking into buying bushings ball joints new ucas and stabilizer bar links, budget for the ucas is around 700 I’ll most likely get new springs and lcas later on if that’s the right approach
     
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    Are moog ball joints worth getting or should I just get a control arm with ball joints already installed ? How often do I have to grease them and is this a tedious task ?
     
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    Negative, only get OEM ball joints. Cool springs Toyota and McGeorge Toyota are very good vendors for those. As for control arms, I would get moog, mevotech or equivalent. They will be fine. The control arm and ball joint assembly’s are parts on first gen tundras.

    Oops! Meant to say “separate parts” on first gen tundras.
     
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    @revtune i seen some spc control arms that come with ball joints pressed in already, are these any good ? I’ve seen a few threads talking about these control arms but I’m curious if I should get these with the ball joints
     
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    How high is your truck? Take a measurement from the center of the hub to the bottom of the fender/fender flare. My experience with SPC arms on first gen tundras has been mostly good. One thing I will say is that the “free pivoting” action can be a bad thing. Because you will feel more harshness on top of the harshness from whatever lift a person has. The stock upper is loaded and I feel it’s designed that way for a reason, to absorb impact. Long story short, If you your caster is close to 2.0 on both sides, I wouldn’t worry about the uppers right now.
     
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    I bought NAPA premium ball joints for about 60% cost of OEM, they were Sankei brand (555) and quality that I trust.

    OP: If you're going to come down a little in height (< 2" lift in front) I would keep all stock components if it were me - that is stock BJ's, end links and control arms. If you're going to stay at that height it'd be rational to consider the corresponding lift components to match (camburg/SPC...etc).
     
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    Anyone know the Toyota part # for said off road package OEM Original heavier springs? I want to see how much they are vs ARB 885 springs... I too am in the market for better springs.
     
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    Might be better off buying from a junkyard and look for the specific colored markings that designate the wide variety of Springs on our 1st Gens. @Rex Kramer has the chart.

    I’m sure someone has an Aftermarket Option Recco.
     
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    Here are the factory identifiers for '00 - '02.

    If I were to install another ARB bumper on my '02 I would try to find an Old Man Emu front shock and spring set to go with it, I say this because I absolutely hated the HD Wheeler springs I had with my ARB - OME have to ride better, I'm sure of it.

    I returned the Wheeler springs, sold the bumper and installed the springs circled in the picture along with a set of HD 4600 series Bilstein shocks.

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    Thanks REX & Handy. I would love an ARB bumper. Are they difficult to find? Want my tundra to look like this:

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    Anyone know of a thread on how to adjust the billstein shocks ? I could only find ones talking about purchasing them
     
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    Nvm found a vid on yt
     
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    Ill trade american freedom for rust lol just bustin ya balls
     
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    The Land of Nuts and Fruits vs. The Land of Hand Model Freedom:rofl:
     
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