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What do you eat in a day?

Discussion in 'Sports, Hobbies & Interests' started by GODZILLA, Feb 10, 2023.

  1. Feb 12, 2024 at 7:25 PM
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    I absolutely hate diets. But I cut out added sugar several years ago after doing whole30 with my wife. And I gave up alcohol a year ago.

    Last year I got it in my brain that I wanted to hunt elk, so I figured I needed to get on a workout routine so I can actually not die when I go from where I live (800 ft elevation) to where the elk are (8-10k ft) in September.

    And somehow, I’ve become obsessive about it (working out. Well, and hunting). I lift 6x/week (kettle bells and sandbags in my garage) and consume close to 1 g/lb/day of protein. Most mornings, I still have to convince myself to actually get up. I want to NOT do it with every fiber of my being. But I’m also terrified to stop because I don’t know how I’ll ever start back up if I deviate from my routine in the slightest.

    My back, hip, and knee pain is gone. I’m stronger and healthier than ever. And I’m actually gaining weight. I’m 5’10”. I have broad-ish shoulders but have always been somewhere between skinny-fat and fat-fat.

    Goal is 200 lb lean. I hit the 200 lb mark just this week. I’ll keep lifting heavy to add weight. I want to add enough muscle that when I start cutting this Spring I don’t dip too far below the 200 lb mark.

    All that to say, any dieter will feel a lot better if they kick their own ass and doing a little suffering on purpose. It changes your body, too. Almost regardless of what you eat.
     
  2. Feb 12, 2024 at 7:29 PM
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    Truth, for sure. I'm just in such terrible shape that it's very taxing and possibly not safe for me to kick my own ass. I'm going the diet route to start trimming, and then I want to work on my cardio so I don't feel totally gassed after basic activities and general life stuff. Nobody likes to be the one wheezing after a flight of stairs.
     
  3. Feb 12, 2024 at 7:47 PM
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    Dude, I get it. That was me a year ago. I started light with push-ups, lunges, and other body weight exercises. Hardly felt like I was capable of doing enough to even count as a workout. Thought I was going to die every day. But now I keep buying heavier kettle bells, using tougher resistance bands, and I have a weighted vest and a sandbag. All the money I was spending eating out now pays for kettle bells.

    I still don’t really do cardio. I’ve GOT to start running, but I’m gulping air between sets as it is. This video started it all for me. I’d heard horror stories of hunters who didn’t train blowing their hip flexors out clambering over deadfall at altitude. I didn’t want that to be me with 60lb on my back. I still do this routine 3x/week:

    A hunting buddy of mine who is in WAY better shape than me always says “motion is lotion.”

    Man, how true that is.
     
  4. Feb 12, 2024 at 8:34 PM
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    The best advice I can offer is that going and kicking your own ass right off the bat is counter productive anyway.

    You should start out exercise or strength training with pretty easy programming. We’re shooting for incremental and sustainable improvements here, and if you’re so sore you can’t come back 48 hours later and train again then those incremental improvements don’t happen. You also can’t make improvements if you pick up training injuries all the time because you’re trying to go apeshit in the gym when your body is trying to warn you to fuck off.

    Weight training is the best bang for your buck here in my opinion. If you only have time for one activity spend that 3 sessions a week lifting weights to increase your ability to generate force. Keep it simple and stick to lifts that recruit the most muscle mass possible in the movement pattern. You’ll be a novice lifter, and novices make the biggest gains in the shortest amount of time on a simple straightforward program like Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. His programming would look something like this:

    Day 1:)

    Squats 3 sets of 5 repetitions.

    Deadlifts 3 sets of 5 reps, this can be reduced to 1 set of 5 when weight starts actually getting heavy.

    Standing overhead press 3 sets of 5 reps.

    Pull ups or chin ups (as your ability allows) 3 sets of 5 reps. Add weight via hanging plates or increase sets as ability allows. Learn to use assistance bands if you currently can’t do pull ups or chin ups.

    Keep a log of how much weight you have on the barbell for all of these work sets.

    Day 2.) Rest day. Eat lean protein, get quality sleep.

    Day 3)

    Do all the same shit you did on day 1, with the exception of substituting bench press in place of overhead press. Look at your log and attempt to add 5lbs to each work set of 3X5 you are now doing. When starting out this won’t be a huge problem, and once you can’t just slap 5lbs more on then you work in smaller increments…. Good news is by this time you’ll be way way way stronger than when you started.

    Day 4.) Rest and recovery, repeat day 2.

    Day 5.) Repeat day 1, add 5lbs if possible or a smaller increment. Back to standing overhead press.

    Day 6&7.) Rest and recovery, recreate, go hang out with friends and family. Don’t eat shitty foods, get good sleep.

    Rinse and repeat alternating standing overhead press and bench press each workout.

    As for diet, it’s tough. My biggest nemesis. Eating clean is hard especially for guys like you and I who are in transportation industry jobs. What has worked best for me is avoiding the inside isles of grocery stores. Shop the outside wall, all that stuff recently had a face on it, or dirt on it, or came out of a tit. That’s food. The only shit worth stuffing in your face from isles in the store is coffee, and seasonings. Then plan out your meals for the week and meal prep. Get a smoker and a pressure cooker, on your weekends make pre made easy to pack meals from actual food. Tough to go wrong with a relatively lean protein and a veggie, seasoned how you like and even pre-packed in appropriate portions you can throw in your lunch box.

    Stress, recovery, adaptation. Stress is exercise/training forcing your body to perform. Recovery is just that, sleep, give your body nutrients to repair all the damage you did with the stress. Your body then adapts to your new more “stressful” activity level and demands for performance. Rinse and repeat.


    Good luck!
     
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    I got out of the transportation bit a few years ago, but I have a sedentary office job, so it's the same kind of crap in that regard. I am getting better about bringing better food for lunches, or fasting periodically.
    Going carnivore like I am actually means I need the fattier protein, because there are no carbs for any energy use. It's a very different take and process than the usual diets, but it's the only one I've done that doesn't have me constantly starving. I'm not looking to get into superhero movie shape. I just want to not be fat. That's it. LOL
     
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    Eat mostly meat. Love carbs for energy so haven’t cut them out completely. Veggies are a no go since they make me bloat and uncomfortable. I eat three big meals a day and workout 6x a week. 6’3” and a lean 215. It’s been a good routine for the last 5 years. My only weakness is beer and wine haha.
     
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    I understand. I’m not suggesting you need to be all jacked and tan or some shit.

    My suggestion to start training for strength is for longevity and durability. You’re still in a good spot in life to add muscle mass, and get stronger. This is good for your ligaments, tendons, skeleton, cardiovascular system, and even your mental state. It will pay long term benefits as you get older. Really elderly people fall down, and can’t perform day to day tasks due to their muscular strength being so low they can’t balance or pick things up, or even get themselves up. More muscle mass is better, and maintaining it as long as possible is better. You’re going to be a hell of a lot more resistant to injury, falling down, etc if you’re stronger. You’re also going to be a hell of a lot more capable of normal day to day stuff. By all means do cardio if you like it, but if it’s down to one activity lift weights. You’ll get your heart pumping and lungs working lifting weights I can promise you.
     
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    Coal dragger’s sample starting plan is great. In the beginning, it will feel like you’re kicking your own ass even though you’re starting light. But all I mean by that term is training to failure—like you can’t do one more rep at the end of your 3rd set. Again, I started simple and easy enough I wasn’t even sure it was doing any good. We overestimate the results we think we should see in the short term and underestimate what can happen over the long term.

    Training muscles to failure and good sleep/recovery? This is the way. Your muscles are the fat-burning engines of your body. You don’t have to be yoked to reap the benefits of healthy, toned muscle tissue doing its thing.
     
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  9. Feb 13, 2024 at 4:31 AM
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    Not disputing any of the exercise elements. Not at all, but this thread was created to focus on the diet portion of health. Says it right in the first post. That's not because diet is everything, but because once the gym aspect comes in the threads get hijacked into being all about "this routine" or "these many reps" and "this schedule" This one was mainly to suss out what people gravitate toward in their diets. True, my focus is mainly on the carnivore aspect, but we've had juicing brought up, a bit of the more low carb, etc.

    We have gym and workout threads already, and I didn't want to just create another one.
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    good comments on muscles burning fat...all true -- > metabolism and sh1t.

    and merely lifting weight....any weights...on a regular basis, will extend your life.

    add in walking a mile or so a day - and you will beat Methuselah.

    Walking settles the brain & brings a meditative calm to humans. kinda like when your Mom rocked you to sleep. same.

    When you have a brain intensive occupation, walking is the remedy to settle the brain.



    Diets? forgetabouit.
    just eat well.
    and exercise & walk.
    don't drink alcohol, especially if you are a man. IYKYK.

    A couple of tests:
    can you easily raise your hands above your head?
    can you do a full squat? like an Asian man?
    can you walk an easy 2 miles?

    if you fail any of those, Godspeed to you.
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do

    Good point. Apologies if I went in the wrong direction.

    diet and exercise should go hand in hand.

    said another way....If you exercise, humans will generally watch the diet automatically.
     
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    No apologies needed. Just trying to keep it focused.

    The thread title may need an adjustment to properly convey that this is more of a "what do you eat" type of thing than "how do you lose weight" scenario.
     
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    I was the same way. It was always miserable. Then I decided to push myself. 1-1.5 hour work out in the morning. Walk until I could jog 2.5 miles around noon then another 2.5 after dinner. Took about a month before I stopped hating it and it became habit. I cut back on the cardio when I hit 185 and found a settled at 195 for years.

    I didn’t watch what I ate just ate less. I’d rather have half a cheeseburger than 2 pounds of kale. Every beer was an extra mile on the treadmill.
    It worked for me for about 7 years. When I stopped I found myself eating more to get that energy back that I lost not working out anymore and the pounds started coming back.

    But, I did get to that enjoying working out part.
     
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    That is esentially what I'm doing. I'm 47, and while I've still 'got it' and I can easily lift heavy...the older you get the more your body says "THAT was dumb." LOL

    Started the Stronglifts 5x5 program a few weeks ago. For those who don't know, it essentially gives you two workouts:

    Workout 1:
    5x5 Squats
    5x5 Bench Presses
    5x5 Barbell Rows

    Workout 2:
    5x5 Squat
    5x5 Overhead Shoulder Presses
    1x5 Deadlift

    I started out with something that, for me, is stupid easy but that will still leave me sore afterwards. So for me, that's:

    Squats, Bench Presses - 135#
    Barbell Rows, Shoulder Presses - 95#
    Deadlift - 225#

    If you complete those lifts w/o issue, you add 5# (or 5# per side) to slowly increase.

    Of course I do other stuff (rowing machine, walking, jogging, etc.) but this is the 'base' workout plan I do. It's served me pretty well in the past.
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    I've been training since '87.

    without a material break.

    I get agitated if I go longer than a 2 days without lifting.

    Skwat day brings an awesome calm. We tend to go to Rudy's BBQ right after my Saturday skwat day.
     
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    @GODZILLA Great thread!

    For reference, I'm currently 503 months old, 6'2", & 238lbs.


    I was you. Went into high school at 6'1" and weighed 127. Senior year I figured out I had to eat and eat a lot - I graduated at 6'2" and a lean 185lb. After high school, partying & traveling was more important and I dipped into the low 130s.

    Mid 20's it was time to grow up and I started working out and ate... A LOT. 6,000-7,000 calories A DAY and got up to 235. There wasn't much fat on me but I could have cut down. Bench was 405 and squat was 530. There were no real "meals" per se - I grazed throughout the day also drinking 3 protein shakes - muscle milk with 2%.

    An old back injury turned into sciatica. I stopped working out, but I didn't stop eating... same weight but got fat! The Great Recession took care of that when I couldn't find work for 9mo and food wasn't cheap.

    TL;DR - Eat. All the time.


    I did Keto in my late 30s for about 6 months at a time. The first time I did it I lost 32lbs, which was WAY too much due to caloric deficit. High fat, medium protein, and almost nonexistent carbs. I put weight back on after that, then did Keto 2 more times within two years. I lost about 12-15lbs each time, starting with caloric deficit then increased calories to maintain/gain muscle by increasing protein and reducing the fat. Mental clarity was fantastic and sustained energy throughout the day. This was also in conjunction with intermittent fasting 6/18. Regardless of my diet, I now intermittently fast all the time.

    Sticking to the diet is difficult. Holidays would throw it off - I can't resist my momma's dinner rolls and southern mac n cheese (shameless plug of her food blog, haha).

    *Absolutely agree with you about CPAP. It changed my life! My best friend, who's a doctor, suggested I do a sleep study. Turns out I have severe sleep apnea. I've now been using a CPAP for 6 months. Improved mood, cognitive ability, reduced blood pressure, resting heart rate is back into the low 50s, and I wake up feeling refreshed!

    As for my current diet, see below.

    I tried the carnivore diet late last year after listening to Jordan Peterson. It was somewhat difficult, but damn, the results were great! Body and joint pains went away, lost some weight, and mental clarity was incredible. I could wake up and my knees and ankles weren't stiff.

    I fell off the wagon for the past month but recently started carnivore diet again. Joint pain is gone and mental clarity is coming back. It certainly highlights how awful sugar and simple carbs are on the body. I will say, I go through a lot of bags of Traeger pellets and the wife gets a little jealous when I sit down to a ribeye everynight, haha!
     
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    Here’s the foundation of what I eat. I workout before breakfast. I weight my food to control portions. Then I under eat and binge on snacks at night pretty much daily.

    Breakfast
    2-3 Hard boiled or fried eggs.
    Banana
    Sometimes Oatmeal or cereal depending on workout.

    Lunch (Usually leftovers)
    5oz grilled Chicken
    5-6 oz veg
    4-5 oz rice

    Dinner
    Same as lunch 60% of the time. We change up how things are prepared but that’s the basic plan. Easy to make for family of 4 and have multiple meals of leftover. We will make something different like burgers, tacos, chili, pot roast, etc once a week or so, and eat out once a week.

    Snack
    Apple
    1oz Nuts
    Orange or berries

    Binge
    1000 calories of goldfish or cheez its.

    Im in my 40s and I need to increase vegetable and fruit intake, and decrease cheezit intake.

    I lift weights 3 times a week (major compound lifts in my garage) and run three times a week (20ish miles total). I’m not fat, but I could be leaner for the beach. But man I really have a weak spot for Cheezits.
     
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    2-3 eggs!!

    Damn I’m at 8 eggs a day haha
     
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    I haven't read this entire thread, but got this far and, having read Crystal's post and the basic info you've posted about your experiences, I'll add:

    Like Crystal, I could subsist on very few calories a day; I can maintain weight and daily activity levels on about ~ 1200 calories per day. But I love food, so... I've struggled with extra weight my entire life.

    Like you, I never feel satiated eating most "diet" foods or portions.

    After I watched a coworker drop 90 pounds in a year, I decided to pay his "coach" to teach me what I was missing. Subsequently lost 30 pounds in 4 months. The gist of it is, fasting each morning 'til noon or later, then eating only high protein and veggies high in necessary nutrients (initially turkey or chicken breast, then later ground turkey because we could season it better; no corn, potatoes, other starchy veggies, at least initially) and really avoiding fats and simple or starchy carbs.

    So during the weight loss phase, our protein was meat, not any veggie proteins, although we like "Mediterranean" foods and are moving back to that (minus pasta) now that we're trying to maintain current weights long term. To lose weight, we'd pair meat protein with veggies based on the nutritional benefits of the veggies. It was recommended I consume a protein shake as a first meal, because it's got all these "nutrients" built in, then have a very filling dinner at night (both meals within an 8 or 6 hour window).

    But I strongly believe, anything humans ate 100 years ago-- i.e. grown, not created or processed-- is what our bodies are meant to consume, so I chose my own veggies to get the nutrients, instead of relying on the shakes. Another thing about the veggies we chose is, you can eat a huge helping to fill up, and it's not simple carbs and takes a while to digest... fibre. Most difficult "need" to meet with a calorie deficit is potassium, (muscles require it, the heart is a muscle). So we kind of got into a pattern of protein every night + at least 2 bright colored veggies one night, and a huge spinach (high potassium) salad with sweet peppers, cucumbers, tomatoes, some sprouts have high potassium, the next night, alternating. At the beginning, I avoided using salad dressing (no fat); mixed Dijon mustard with red vinegar instead. I don't love mustard. But I was really motivated to lose the weight and kept reminding myself that I knew it was possible, because I'd seen my coworker do it. Once the weight-loss started, a few weeks in, when I couldn't face the mustard and red vinegar any more, I added a tiny bit of olive oil as well (I know fats help with take-up of nutrients from veggies-- so again, I listened to what the coach told me, but didn't ignore everything I know about human biology and nutrition). A couple months in, I went back to WishBone Italian (full fat), but everything else was still to plan.
    I tracked my food intake (including calories) and texted it to the coach every night. Weighed myself once a week and reported that as well. Probably the accountability helped.

    I keep writing "we" because my other half eventually joined me in eating the same dinners. Our morning consumption is different; hard boiled egg(s) mid morning vs. I still fast every morning. Egg every morning lost 40 pounds; Fasting every morning lost 30 pounds. But... Fast every morning (me) cheats more often... occasional bites of coworkers' homemade tamales/ brownies/ Buffalo dip.

    A couple of caveats, in case you read this and think it sounds horrible and you won't feel satisfied:

    It was really hard the first 6 weeks... really had to hold myself to exact rules. Any cheating and I'd have folded. But after that it became waaay easier because I felt better physically and didn't crave the foods I was no longer eating. I figured out, if I eat simple carbs like bread or pasta or rice or candy or sweets, I immediately crave more. But if I avoid them, after a couple of weeks to reset, I no longer crave them. So now I just have to not take a bite "to participate" (ex: coworker's birthday cake, whatever), and can resist food I should not eat.

    For example: A couple of months into my weight loss, someone brought nachos in for a work social event-- something I (used to) love-- and I had a full helping. I knew as I was eating it... this is all fake carbs + fat. Sure enough, my body responded badly, and it went right through me. Huh. So this happened a couple of times over subsequent weeks, where I'd rationalize a cheat meal in place of my usual midday meal, enjoy the taste, then basically feel unwell and it would pass right through... so quickly that, apparently, it never affected my weight. But having experienced this several times now, I'm far less tempted than I used to be to eat foods that I know have no food value and will make me feel unwell. Ive tried this often enough now to trust it: if I want to have a cheat meal, I can; however, I'll feel really shitty later, and not gain any weight.

    As for day to day, once I got a few weeks in to eating primarily low-fat proteins and veggies... and got my body out of that weird craving for sugary processed foods, this is easy to maintain and I don't feel hungry. The biggest "ah-ha!" was when I realized that (like you?) when I thought, during past diets, that I didn't feel satiated, it wasn't because I was hungry, per se, but because I craved processed/ simple carb foods I'd learned to eat, but now seldom do.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    I'm a traditional meat & patatas guy (chicken, beef, eggs, and I guess cheddar cheese goes here, too. Oh, and BACON. GOTTA HAVE BACON!).
    And veggies/fruit (broccoli, spinach, peas, mixed salad, cucumber, fuji apple, orange, banana, etc).
    And I admit I snack in moderation (popcorn, doritos, fritos scoops!!!!).

    For carbs, I limit daily intake to sourdough bread (with real butter and dipped in garlic olive oil) or rye bread w/butter, corn tortillas w/beans, and oatmeal. I mix blueberries and about 1/3 of banana (mashed) and about a tbsp of either sugar free syrup or 100% maple syrup into 1/3 cup of oats. A few times a week I'll also have purple potatoes with dinner.

    Never had a sweet tooth, but I'll snack on sugary stuff in very small amounts (ice cream, chocolate chip cookies, donut are my weakness), sugar-free if I can help it. More for health reasons than anything else as I'm not getting any younger. Although I BRAKE for pure maple syrup. If it weren't so loaded with sugar, I'd probably pour it into a glass or drink the stuff right out of the bottle lol.

    If we eat out (usually 2-3 times a week) it'll usually be mexican (damn I love flautas, tortas, or tostada salads), a burger joint (Five Guys or In-N-Out or a place that has onion rings), or pizza thin crust Chicago style. We have a local authentic Chicago style pizza joint owned by a couple who of course are from Chicago and are huge Bears fans. I go in there wearing my Packers gear just to egg them on, but they're cool people, just enjoy the chit-chat and the camaraderie. Every so often we also get a traditional breakfast at a local diner (eggs, bacon, sausage, toast, pancakes), or country fried steak & eggs.

    I've been weight training all my adult life and used to bodybuild, but these days it's more to stay fit and maintain. I have kept/retained a relatively low body fat percentage over the years. I used to eat for muscularity (60/20/20 carb/protein/fat) up until recently, but I don't train as hard as I used to so while I still break my meals down to 4-5 per day, they aren't bodybuilder portions, and I've also cut the carbs back about 50% what I used to.
     
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    Great write up, and similar to the experience I had on carnivore, aside from it being really at the start. I guess that's kind of subjective though. It's great to see what other people have found that works for them for just happy and healthy eating, regardless of any weight loss goals, so thank you for sharing.

    To kick it off I did a 24 hour dry fast and broke that fast with a couple of ribeyes. Highly recommend the fast and reward to kick off a dietary change. LOL Then I just had to remember that when I felt "hungry" if something like steak and eggs didn't sound good I wasn't really hungry and it was just a craving. To start with I'm sure my calorie intake was huge because I could pack in some eggs and bacon or steaks pretty readily, but that only lasted for a few days. Then the stomach started to properly release the satiety hormones and I just kept feeling full. This led to a natural intermittent fasting on most days, and only eating 1 or 2 meals in a day.

    The fluid purge was definitely something I planned for my days off, though. I've heard lots of people will change their diet but then go back because of stuff like this, when it's really just a temporary thing that the body is doing. I'm glad I read up on it and knew what to expect. Did you have anything like that with your dietary transition? IDK that you would with all the fiber in it, but I'm not sure how a dietary shift behaves for everyone.

    The last 3 days I've been 90% carnivore, so the purge has begun, but it's never an emergency. It's not the same as being sick or eating a bunch of super hot food that just goes full :crapstorm:, so it's not like I don't feel well. I just have to make sure the TP is stocked.

    Today I am shooting for a 24 hour dry fast until 7 AM tomorrow, but I've got a bit of a headache so I may have water while I'm at work. We'll see. Anyway, this should put me back into it for my upcoming week off and hopefully I'll be mostly out of the purge phase and in full carnivore mode by the time I'm back to work on dayshift.
     
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    If you're taking about more fluid weight loss via urine, yes I experienced that once I got into ketosis. But it was never all of a sudden, and seldom changed bathroom consistency. So if you're saying all protein does that, I'm grateful all over again that I stayed with meat and high nutrient veggie combo.

    I did notice my pee looks slightly cloudy when fat burning kicks in. When I asked about it, my coach told me that is a sign of ketosis happening-- but he said he hadn't told me, because few people notice.

    The other accompanying feature of ketosis I noticed was that I had bad breath; I could taste it. Lucky for me, no one else seemed to notice (I asked those that have to spend time in close proximity because I felt self-conscious, but each said it wasn't noticeable). I came to appreciate both as "proof" I could observe, that fat-loss was occurring.
     
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    No, it's not urine. Liquid poo. Basically water. When you aren't eating any carbs your body will purge the fluids that it retains for processing the carbs. Most people going carnivore will lose 5-25 lbs in the first couple weeks because of the fluid purge. Shifting the gut biome can also cause the ol' squirts to happen, but your higher fiber diet would possibly counter act that a bit.

    Fiber has been hugely misrepresented and misunderstood, IMO. There are doctors and studies that are starting to show that high fiber can actually be a cause rather than solution for lots of the GI issues that it's recommended for.

    I should clarify that I'm a big believer that health is far more individual than general medicine would suggest. I'm not saying everyone should eat the same thing or anything like that, but I also have seen so much of what is recommended get overruled, changed, or proven to be outright wrong over the years that I don't put a ton of stock in what "they" say anymore. I prefer to have the info and be able to draw my own conclusions.

    I'm going carnivore to get back into eating healthy unprocessed foods, but the end goal is to eventually start adding back some plants for variety and flavor so long as they don't produce any poor reaction. First things I plan to add once I get to that point will probably be onions, garlic, pepper, and broccoli. Love those, but giving them up for a while and then testing each separately to see if they have any adverse impacts over time is the goal.
     
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    6 eggs, turkey sausage, toast with jam. Meal before the gym.

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    I can't really give any info on a diet to help lose or gain weight but I did read a small piece 4 years ago or so when I decided to get back in (and stay) in the gym. It wasn't a "diet" but more of a plan of how to maintain a healthy weight if you're staying active.
    Basically it boils down to no soda, no alcohol (I fail that part), all the meat you want, getting carbs from potatoes and rice, no bread or pasta (don't always do well with the pasta), and try to have a vegetable with every meal. Again, I don't always succeed at every part of this but it's a diet that I feel I can follow fairly close for the rest of my life. I'm not lean by any means and never have been, but not fat either. 6 ft, about 230 pounds and stronger at 45 than I've ever been. I don't do much for cardio but not real worried about it either.
    My day usually consists of a banana and some peanut butter with a protein shake when I first get up. A protein bar of a few boiled eggs mid morning, so I'm not hangry before lunch. Usually some sort of chicken (I change it up alot to kill the monotony of it) and rice for lunch, sometimes throwing in some broccoli or cauliflower. A protein shake before and after the gym and then whatever for dinner. . . Again, I try to stick with rice or potatoes for my evening carb but if my wife cooks pasta. . . So be it.
    @GODZILLA just throwing this out there incase it hasn't been brought up in another post. . .if you haven't had your test levels checked, I would look into that. Alot of people shy away at the thought of it but sometimes it's a game changer for people past their 40s. . Just a thought!
     
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    I've never had goose. What's it like?
     
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    The breast is red meat like a steak. Great flavor. But Canadian geese can live 30 years, so it can be tough.

    Putting the tough steaks through a tenderizer helps immensely.
     
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    Yeah, it looks pretty lean. I might be spoiled though.
     
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    It’s very lean. Like venison. That doesn’t make it tough, though. Just means you have to be careful not to dry it out overcooking it. The age of the goose is what makes it tough.
     

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