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Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by BoltCarrierGroup, Aug 25, 2025.

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Sep 5, 2025 at 8:39 AM

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I worked until very recently in the auto industry, specifically in parts. We had all the data on dealerships for all OEM's and their parts inventories, orders, supply chain, etc which I would nerd over with various BI reports I built out because I spent hours a day with nothing to do. Plus I talked to parts managers literally all day long.

Stellantis had very few orders for anything related to the motors for their trucks and Wagoneers with the hurricane, SO and HO. They had a very high amount of wiring harnesses and batteries, but the motor itself and parts associated with motor were pretty low based off of how many wagoneers and 1500s were sold for 2025s. The ZF transmission was also never replaced. It was extremely rare and was probably user error on why it failed. The ZF should be in every single vehicle. The issue with Stellantis is their electronics and supply chain shortages that they refused to fix post Covid. GM is the same.

GM had tons of trans replacements and issues, and obviously the 6.2 issues and lifter issues (and CCV for their LZ0 but parts managers all loved that motor).

Ford had pretty low levels of part orders for any motor related parts, but transmissions were pretty high and everything else on a Ford was high, especially headlights and their infotainment screen which sucks because they are both extremely expensive and out of warranty after 36k.

Toyota had the highest level of engine orders percentage wise (GM had more overall but their sales are way higher), but we all know why. Toyota also backs up their customers more. Toyota, iirc, didn't have too many other replacements that were needed.
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I highly disagree with this minus the electric stuff is 100% true especially on wagoners.
I have literally 3 trans in the shop right cause they are dogshit. Stellantis now wants to use to crack open the 8-speed and replace d-cluthes first (new process to open the trans). Due to incorrect ratio gear codes causing failure. Then that repair almost fails instantly and you then throw a box in it.
Motor wise I have a cab off wagoner that just left as their oil pumps are shit in the 3.0 and tank all the time.
Stellantis is a horrendous company and builds next to nothing good. I do however like the 6.2 wrangler, very few in the shop so far and sounds mean as hell.
hemi may be underpowered compared to hurricane but minor issues now compared to what I see.

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