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Want wide tires but no rubbing..

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by SullyMoto19, Aug 10, 2015.

  1. Aug 10, 2015 at 10:21 AM
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    I've seen @csuviper thread about the wheel measurements.. I'm just trying to figure out what I should do lift wise and tire wise.. I want to run the Moto metal 962 model rim at 20x12.. (From what I can tell are a -44 offset)
    1. What size tires would I be able to squeeze in with a 3-4" lift? (I'd rather not cut anything, but I understand there's consequences to running such a wide tire) I was thinking maybe 33x12.5 but should I go to a narrower tire since the offset is so great..? Maybe a 34x(narrower)? Haha
    2. What lift or level would be ideal in my situation.. I've also seen @Sean266 build and love the lift tire combo.. Just want some bigger rims.. Please let me know, I don't really have the budget for a 6" lift right now.. But I plan on keeping the rims and could always go bigger tire once I got the 6"!

    Thanks guys
     
  2. Aug 10, 2015 at 3:06 PM
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    -44 offset on a 12 inch wide wheel is going to be pushed out FAR. You're going to be cutting front plastics, rear plastics and cab mount no matter what size tire you run.

    Not only that, most shops won't eve install a 12.5" wide tire on a 12" wide rim. Tires have minimum and maximum wheel width requirements.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2015 at 3:13 PM
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    So if you were me, would you go smaller wheel width? I'm pretty sold on the rims, definitely want 20s, width is in the air
     
  4. Aug 10, 2015 at 3:25 PM
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    Smaller rim width yes, with at least 1" more backspacing.
    Wheel diameter doesn't matter. Tire diameter does. You can run 26" wheels if you're prepared to run rubber bands for tires.
     
  5. Aug 10, 2015 at 3:45 PM
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    I like the deep dish look.. Problem is, for these rims they only have -44 and 0 offsets.. If I'm gonna have a big rim, I don't wanna have them wrapped in a thin profile tire.. Is trimming that big of a deal? I'm just hesitant about cutting into the truck, it's so new :(
     
  6. Aug 10, 2015 at 4:29 PM
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    I have an instagram friend and from my snooping he is running a 20x10 with a -24 offset 35/12.5/20 on a 4.5/2.5 lift. Now idk what he has to cut to get that to fit.

    maybe something a smidge smaller (depending tire brand, I have always used nitto trail graps, as this dude on instagram), 295/60/20 is 34.4/12.13/20 where a 35/12.5/20 is actually measured to be 35.01/13.3ish/20. I can't remember exactly. That inch width can mean a lot sometimes.

    But that's the best I would think is possible on a 3-4" lift. Might even have to run a 305/55/20 to have no rubbing or trimming.

    If your dead set on those wheels I would do the 0 offset (depending wheel width, if it's either a 9" or 10") with a 4" lift on 295/60/20. That would probably be the best fit with minimal to zero rubbing.

    Disclaimer is I'm not an expert, this is just my opinion/guess from the trillions of wheel/tire/lift set-ups I've looked at to decide for my own truck.
     
  7. Aug 10, 2015 at 4:46 PM
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    @TNTundra08 i just hate the 0 offset.. Some rims it looks good, but these look pretty ugly with 0 offset.. Do you know what tire width id need to run a 20x12 rim?
     
  8. Aug 10, 2015 at 5:20 PM
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    Idk if you can run a 20x12 regardless tire size without at least a 6" lift

    Edit: with a -44 offset that is.
     
  9. Aug 10, 2015 at 5:27 PM
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    Hmmm.. Lots to think about.. Although I did find a place in Houston that has badass packages (lifts, wheels, and tires) for one payment.. Decent prices too as far as wheels and rubber goes.. Still not that knowledgable about lifts as much as I've researched them
     
  10. Aug 11, 2015 at 10:23 AM
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    Dunno the offset but saw this on Instagram today. 3/1 lift 20x12 33/12.5/20 with 1.5" wheel spacers.
    image.jpg
     
  11. Aug 11, 2015 at 10:28 AM
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    Yeah I saw that on Instagram the night before last.. That's just too much stance for me.. I love the rims but I can't force myself to do that to my truck lol I actually found an awesome package deal down here in Houston: tires, wheels, 6in lift, and install for about $4700.. I can't remember off the top of my head what the lift was (rough country I believe) are those lifts very reliable?
     
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    My brother has a 2011 on a 6" suspension lift, 2"body, with 35x12.5, with 18s i believe.. Also the 2" spacers.. Rubs the frame if he cuts it all the way, also had to trim the bumper.. I think it sits well, and I like the offset.. Wouldn't wanna go too much more than that probably image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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    No way would I put a Rough Country lift on my brand new truck. They are cheaper for a reason and are known for their bad CV angles. Look at Toytec, more expensive but you will be putting a much higher quality lift on your truck. My $.02.
     
  14. Aug 11, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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    @mdavis thats what I've heard, I've been thinking of a procomp but I've seen a lot of people on here that like the toy tech, I'll definitely look into them! Need all the help I can get, don't do much off-roading cause I don't wanna tear up my truck, bros got a maxtrax suspension and just had to replace the rack on his and a couple tie rods.. And steering column.. but just want a badass ride.. Also want to keep it comfortable..
     
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    @TNTundra08 and that's the -44 offset.. Exact rims I wanted.. -_-
     
  16. Aug 11, 2015 at 10:51 AM
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    Yeah I agree with mdavis. And that's an insane amount of stance, I didn't care for it. Something similar to your brothers would be like a -12 or -24 offset, no spacer, on a 20x10/20x9.
    I think the perfect set up would be roughly a 6" lift, no body lift, 20x9 with a 0 through -24 offset on 35/12.5/20. It would fit well and not need a lot of trimming, if any, I would think.
     
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    This is a 7" with the exact rims20x12, -44 wrapped in 35x12.5 nittos.. I think this is clean, doesn't look too offset to me, I don't think he's running spacers since the lift is a 7".. But ideally, I would like mine to look similar.. Just wasn't sure where I should start..image.jpgimage.jpg
     
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    Yeah. That's bad ass right there
     
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    Guess I'll just save up.. No sense in spending money on a lift then spending more on the one I want.. Just do a big ass purchase of everything and get it all at once lol btw what do you have on yours?
     
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    Best thing to do. These trucks are too nice to put crap on them.
     
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    3/1 skyjacker(was on it when i bought it, I've seen mixed reviews on skyjacker but screw it) then I changed the wheels to 20x9 method standards +18 offset on 305/55/20 nitto trail grapplers.
    I wish I did a bigger tire
    (295/60/20) it's only 1.02" taller but sometimes what I have look small for my liking. I just didn't want any rubbing or trimming at the time.
     
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    Yeah I.. I just got it July 4th and to cut into it would break my heart lol I'll just do the small accessory stuff first I guess, probably black out or debadge... Maybe some tundra tailgate inserts.. Definitely tint and wanna throw in leather seats in the winter.. It's too damn hot right now for leather
     
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    I feel us on the leather, I installed an auto start and it was worth every penny.
    I'm fixing to debadge everything and paint match my rear bumper, mirror caps, door handles, and grill bezel thing.
     
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    Oh yeah and the keyless start was another thing I was gonna do.. My buddy has one where he can do everything from his phone (temp control, lock, shutoff, gps).. Idk if I wanna go that hi-tech, but it is pretty badass
     
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    My buddy manages some car shop and has a set up like that and paid like a grand for it. That's a bit ridiculous to me. Being able to control the temp would be cool bc sometimes I forget to turn the AC back on
     
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    Lol.. $1000 is a bit much.. That's 1/6 of a supercharger, also on my list one day
     
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    Better hurry. They are discontinuing them if they haven't already.
     
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    What for?? Any idea?
     
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    There is a thread on here talking about it. Basically not enough sales for them to continue making them
     
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    Well it's hard to sell something that cost 6k.. No matter what it is
     
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