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Upgrade 2019 Tundra suspension from TRD Sport to TRD Pro

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Mr. Moto, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:50 PM
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    Mr. Moto

    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    I want to transform my stiff and bouncy ride to a plush cushy one to save our backs for traveling. The TRD Pro suspension comes factory-installed and the local dealer can't help with an upgrade modification. We will also be pulling a small camper at some point, so I want to avoid rear end sag. Can anyone advise where to get this mod done, the parts needed and cost?
    Thanks,
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  2. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:50 PM
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    Hey Dan, Like Kerch, I too am into the off road suspension. It's possible to have Cadillac road manners and be able to mash whoops at 70mph but very difficult, time consuming and expensive to achieve. The truck is designed to operate over a huge working spectrum so it excels nowhere in the spectrum. It really is a truck and not a passenger car. Concessions are required with respect to handling.
    The cheap, simple route is to just add a sand bag or two over the rear axle. This'll help the feel of the ride and provide better traction in snow, sand etc.
    The expensive solution is new leaf springs and new rear shocks. But you're looking at something like 3K and tearing out the Pro shocks that were a large part of the reason you bought a Pro. IMO the best rear shock/ leaf combo for our trucks is the ADS triple bypass shock coupled with either Deaver K37 or U748 leafs. The shock is the only one specifically designed and built for our trucks when using one of these leaf packs.
    Not the answer you're after I'm sure. But having had 5 Tundras and ridden in several dozen, this is what, IMO, it takes to make a truck truly feel like a caddy. I didn't set out to achieve that kind of ride on the road, it a byproduct of tuning shocks for off road and I'm not done yet.
    Best of luck in your quest for the holy grail. It's out there, just not easy to acquire.
     
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  3. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:52 PM
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    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    Thanks everybody for your feedback. It seems that from what you guys are saying is that any off-road suspension will tend to be a stiff and bouncy ride. To be clear, my present suspension is the TRD Sport. From the marketing literature, the FOX 2.5 shocks are tuned for a plush ride (ride zone) see attached PDF from TRDUSA.com. I plan on calling Fox Factory Inc. at 619-768-1800 to get part/kit numbers for the front shocks (11 bypass zones) and the rear shocks (12 bypass zones). Please advise if I am wasting my time or money in this pursuit. Thanks again.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:52 PM
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    Hmmm. I think it's a common misconception that off road suspension is stiff and bouncy. The most plush rides I've ridden in are "off road" trucks. The combination of progressive leaf packs and bypass rear shocks is gonna yield the best ride. But, it's a very expensive route with lots of pot holes. I'll research what kind of adjustments, if any, can be made to the shocks you have.
     
  5. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:53 PM
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    Mr. Moto

    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    Hey Warren, thanks for staying in the loop here. My present shocks are TRD sport-tuned Bilstein shocks. Not sure what "sport-tuned" means, and don't think they can be adjusted. I just want to replace them with the ones that are factory-installed in the TRD-Pro trucks.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:53 PM
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    I did a little research and found the Fox Pro shocks are not externally adjustable, nor do they "appear" to be easily re-buildable/tune-able. However, they sound like they have a great chance at seriously improving ride quality. You might wanna try asking folks who have 'em.
     
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  7. Oct 31, 2019 at 1:53 PM
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    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    I called the Fox Factory and this is what I was told: Toyota has these special ordered, and the only way to get the part numbers is to call a dealer that has a Pro on the lot and get the VIN for it. From the VIN, the parts can be found and ordered once the Toyota part number is converted to the manufacturers part number. I was also told that the shocks can be rebuilt but it is needed only every 50,000 miles. I have asked the sales person who sold me the truck at the dealer where I bought it to run this down for me. Tech manual on the shocks attached. Will keep everyone posted.
     
  8. Oct 31, 2019 at 8:06 PM
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    Warren knows this stuff dude. He is tundra doctor in my opinion. :bananadance::burnrubber:
     
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  9. Oct 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM
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    I have the TRD Pro Fox suspension on my truck now and the ride is amazing. It’s much softer and yet responsive at the same time. I would say it’s the best of both worlds. If I were you I would keep in contact with as many accessory sales persons at the Toyota dealers as you can. It took me a while, but I finally got a set of take offs for a customer who wanted a six inch lift. Also, watch ebay and classifieds here and locally for someone who has done the same.
    The ride and performance is definitely worth the wait.
     
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  10. Nov 1, 2019 at 10:52 AM
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    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    I called the Toyota dealer and got a VIN for a TRD PRO: 5TFDY5F10KX860529
    The Toyota dealer parts department gave the following kit number for the entire suspension package: PTR61-34190. Parts dept. shows this kit to be discontinued, so it was available at one time. Need to either find the kit or get the mfg stock numbers for its contents....making progress.

    :fingerscrossed:
     
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  11. Nov 1, 2019 at 11:20 AM
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    So would removing the rear sway bar help with the ride?
     
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  12. Nov 1, 2019 at 10:36 PM
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    Mine me asking how much that all was
     
  13. Nov 1, 2019 at 11:03 PM
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    Check out Old Man Emu, That's what I have on my truck, ride is great and at a third of the cost of the pro parts.
     
  14. Nov 2, 2019 at 3:34 AM
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    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    Toyota was selling their PRO kit for $3200. Don't think sway bars are a factor. Curious about Old Man Emu. Hey Rich, can you provide a link or photos?
     
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    TRD sport is stiff and firm at slow speeds get some speed up and go around some curves its a joy. TRD off road is soft on the pavement but get off the pavement and enjoy ! Cant have both worlds. The PRO is built for off road not towing.
     
  16. Nov 2, 2019 at 4:27 AM
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    Suspension: front- Bilsein 6112 set at 1.9”; Rear- bilstein 5160 with maxtrac 1” shackel. Wheels: Method MR308 roost wheels 18x9” +18 offset. Tires: 275/70/18 Goodyear wrangler DuraTrac’s Removed front mudflaps and moved front wheel well liner forward. Bakflip MX4 Tonneau cover Line-x premium bed liner aFe CAI Rear differential breather moved behind taillight Debadged Windows tinted 20% ESP locking long box rear seat storage OEM all weather mats 6 3/4” antenna Coverking leather rear seat cover
    I recommend looking at the Bilstein 6112/5160 set at 1.9” cost $950 for parts and $300 installed at an off-road shops.
    You might get the parts cheaper Black Friday and cyber Monday are coming up.

    The ride will be much improved over the sport suspension and it will sit like the pro suspension for 1/3 of the price.
     
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  17. Nov 8, 2019 at 10:22 AM
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    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    I checked into Old Man Emu:
    BP51 KIT LIGHT 2.5INCH 2007-PRESENT 5L TUNDRA ADD

    PART NO
    OMETUN57BP51
    MSRP (USD)
    $3788.00
    This is considerably more than the TRD Pro but probably comparable.

    I have found a dealer that will buy the Factory PRO front and rear sets for me ($3096) and install for $630.

    I am now considering Roadmaster Active suspension to be installed at the same time. this should take care of sag when towing.

    Any thoughts?
     
  18. Nov 8, 2019 at 10:43 AM
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    IMO. Nothing beats the Fox TRD Pro, even for the price. I also added the TRD front and rear sway bars. I had air bags for sag and towing on my last tuck and will be adding very soon. I think that’s the best all around solution. The ride improvement is exponentially better than the stock suspension. Both on and off road. I like the air bags because I don’t know that they’re even there unless I tow something. And even then it tows better than any suspension shocks or springs.
     
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  19. Nov 8, 2019 at 11:02 AM
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    Mr. Moto

    Mr. Moto [OP] Rusty, my 2019 Tundra TRD Sport

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    Which air bags did you put on, and do they go on before or after the shocks?
     

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