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UPDATE: Stay away/beware of Dallas paint correction (DPC) Shield ceramic coating

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    Ironic it's "sold out" .... kinda like scott himself
     
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    And other companies don’t entertain...

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    :thumbsup::rofl::rofl::rofl: That is so true! Couldn't happen to a nicer guy either.
     
  4. Sep 22, 2019 at 2:27 PM
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    Soooooo I noticed a few more spots today that do not look promising. It is entirely possible that I didn't apply this correctly, but I followed directions and these different areas are becoming noticeable.
    It is very hard to get a decent picture of the issue. Maybe I applied it too thick, didn't level it correctly, or missed my buff off time window. Whatever the cause, I can finding new areas every time I wash it.

    It kinda looks like orange peel paint at first until you investigate further. You can see what appear to be small bubble that are raised up, lots of them like a peeling sunburn, or polyurethane on something left outside. The area I found today while drying is the trim panel below the drivers side headlight. It looks kinda white and flaky but I can't scrape it or flake it with a fingernail. itll have to be strip washed, clayed, polished. I worry that the crystalization of the coating could introduce some marring while using clay or polish. it already did during the application process and I have a feeling removal will be worse. Finger are crossed that it'll just wear off soon or will come off with a good strip wash.

    The pics really don't show the problem, you can kind of see it on the very bottom of the 1st pic.

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  5. Sep 27, 2019 at 8:43 AM
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    Him being in Texas has really bugged me, but I just found the issue. @Jim LE 1301 come get your boy.

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  6. Sep 27, 2019 at 6:45 PM
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    Now if you want to meet me half way with Whataburger and bring you a NY pizza. :rofl:
     
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  7. Sep 28, 2019 at 11:56 AM
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    I seem to have watched a few of the chemical guys video's and when I had a leaked product in a order, them didn't ask any questions at all. I emailed a couple pictures and next email I got was that another bottle was in the mail. Seems like they have good video's and GOOD customer service.
     
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  8. Sep 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM
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    I am not a chem guys fan at all. But I certainly can't knock them as far as the helpful videos they post, and they post a lot. And for the most part, as far as I can tell from posts like this and various reviews, their customer service is pretty solid.

    Scott is in a league of his own when it comes to service. It's a shame he is such a sell out cuz he was once well respected and now he's far from it.
     
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    Any of you guys keep up with the social media feeds surrounding this product? I was banned from everything DPC and Scott related, but I'm curious what's been happening.
     
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    Nothing really since he posted that update a month or so ago saying he “sold out”.

    I think this is aimed at you though.

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    Haha that's awesome. I wonder if he would be mad that after he took a bite of that reese's the rest of it turned rancid and couldn't be eaten. Would it still be worth the price of a reese's for one bite? When you could buy another brand and eat the whole candy bar? And what is reese's new catch phrase? "NOT SORRY" I think. Just like scott, not sorry he scammed hundreds of people.
     
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    Things are going from bad to worse with this coating. It is bubbling and starting to look terrible everywhere. It looks kinda like dry skin or a peeling sunburn in some spots. I am unable to get a good pic to show the issue.
    It is not adhereing to the surface of the clear coat properly, even though I followed instructions perfectly and probably went above and beyond. I would imagine if you didn't level a coating properly it would look like this.....but not several months after application. It looked fine for a couple months but I have slowly been noticing bad spots, and they are becoming more frequent.
    Also the more I look, the more scratches that I see that were definitely caused from applying this stuff, the scratches and swirls are under the coating and were likely caused by crystals that were formed in the bottle that I didn't notice til about a week after use.
    I tried polishing this off with a black pad and some essence but it didn't get it done, its gonna take more aggressive polishing in the spring, but I'm thinking that the coating will be worn off by then anyway.
     
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    In order to remove a coating you need a very aggressive polish. Wool pad or MF pad with a high cut compound should do the trick. For this particular case I would be extremely cautious as the crystallized coating may start to flake off and get stuck on the pads, I would advice a very strict pad cleaning regimen when polishing this off.

    Try getting some photos of the current state of the coating.
     
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    I will try to get pics tomorrow. I don't even wanna polish it at all. to be honest I hope it just wears away over the winter. But I also want to put something over it to protect the paint for the winter. I'm stuck in a bad spot because of this crap.
    If I were to polish it off I would use carpro clear cut compound and wool pads, maybe yellow foam pads, but I fear exactly what you stated. It looks like polishing will cause more damage to the underlying paint cuz it's going to flake off. Ugh this sucks.
    Maybe I should not add any protection and just let it wear off? I feel like whatever I do, is gonna be the wrong move.
     
  15. Oct 10, 2019 at 10:22 AM
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    Completely agree. Let it wear off. Safest route.
     
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    It's looking like my best option unfortunately. Normally I would be getting ready for a pretty intending wash followed by hydro2 and reload before the snow flies, but I think I'll just do the wash and leave it as it is so it has a better chance to degrade the rest of the way and wear off. It's such a shitty product I bet it won't take long.
     
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    I don’t know if it will, but possibly Eraser can help it along?
     
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    It certainly won't hurt. If you saw it you would freak out. It looks like flaking polyurethaned wood in some areas. It sucks
     
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    Dammit. I certainly wouldn’t be able to tolerate that. I have water spots I need to get off that are driving me nuts.
    I don’t think Eraser is going to take it off, but maybe it will weaken it enough to make removal easier. I’ll see if I can find any advice. If you try to polish it off, I’d use a bunch of pads and keep them as clean as possible.
    I’m sure Corey w/ CarPro would have some good advice, you’d just have to open up by letting him know you didn’t use his stuff......
     
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    My thoughts exactly. worth a shot
     
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    The one time I stray from my safety net that is carpro lol. I'm such am idiot
     
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    Just thinking. What if you try to use a heat gun? Since its flaking or peeling. Maybe get it soft and rub it off. I'm not a detail guru, just an idea.
     
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    I think he is selling floor wax to put on cars if you over do it with floor wac you get that build up, but you dont see the scratches like you would on paint.
     
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    It’s pretty difficult to rub it off when it’s soft.
     
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    Regardless, I’m sure he’d be happy to help you. Jeremy at Shine Supply may have some ideas also. Even the guys at TRC are pretty good about responding to emails.
     
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    Once the coating cures/crystallizes heat will not affect it.

    @Pudge I would not venture and start adding other chemicals to it, we don't know how the coating will react to them and it may make the issue worse. I would stay put and watch it flake off. One thing you can do is wash it more often to increase the degradation on the rest.
     
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    Nailed it
     
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    Yeah that's ideal and I'm sure itll speed things along, so would leaving the truck outside in the sun. It sucks cuz it's getting cold here now so I am washing less frequently and I always garage it when I am home. I hope it'll go fast now that it's visibly failing. Every day I find new spots.
     
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    I would polish it off. You don’t know what the heck he used with that crap coating. Snake oil probably. I would polish it off asap. To get you thru the winter use gyeon wet coat. Love this stuff. But I use a dry method for it. Take a damp
    Microfiber applicator and spray one or two spritzes on the pad. This is when the truck is clean and dry. Wipe over one panel at a time and then dry. Do not buff wet coat. This method saves product and gives more long term protection. A coating flaking is bs. No way I would could live with that or look at it. Tac systems Moonlight is my base protection. Technically not a “coating” but it is honestly. These two products together are home runs. Wet coat is my favorite detailing product. Stuff is unbelievable on black paint. So any other color is a hit as well. Gloss is very good
     
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