Unpopular opinion: all terrain tires are stupid

Those would be my 39s

 

I never saw it your way, but yeah all terrains have the worst characteristics of both street, and mud tires with none of the benefits. Heavy, loud, equally as useless on icy roads and they load up with dirt/mud/snow in about two revolutions. Not to mention the price!!! $1000 out the door, if you get cheap ones.

You know, i actually agree 100%.

Ban me. *mic drop

 

My Yokohama's are 3PMSF in a P-rated "AT". I really think Yokohama makes an underated product.

 

I built out my first CJ in 1972 in High School while taking auto and metal shop. You apparently need to get out more.....lol you think a street tire would be better than a 3 peak AT going over the divide in winter for example? That's on road, let alone off road.That's just laughable. The CO state trooper will be laughing too while writing up your ticket after hearing your explanation why your street tires aren't chained up. I'll stick with my 3 peak ATs. ATs are a decent compromise. Not all ATs are the same and for some reason are being lumped altogether here which is nonsensical. Some are better. A lot better. True, there are places up here where you could go wheeling with streeters and plenty of places where streeters wouldn't be advisable. Been offroading going on 50+ years now btw. All over the place...

 

That's why I run dedicated winter tires on all 3 of my vehicles.

 

Men in skinny jeans specifically, right?

 

Two sets of wheels and tires?

 

Tires are not stupid, people are.

 

We get 4 seasons here in Colorado but you rarely see dedicated winter tires around the front range. The winter snow comes and goes for the most part and doesn't make sense unless you live up in the high country where winter snow conditions are an every day occurance and it makes sense to run dedicated winter tires.

 

Just highway and snow tires for me.

My brother is lazy so he runs ATs on his Sierra. But he also has 4Auto and drives on gravel a lot.

 

Mine lasted 30k before the tread wouldn’t pass inspection for being so low.

 

That's kind of my train of thought with a 4x4 truck. They make street tires with snow tire characteristics in an all-season mix (Michelin Defenders for one example). I carry a set of cables if I get stuck out in a snow squal, that doesn't happen too often though.

 

That’s what make the Defenders so interesting and relevant after years of minor changes.

They don’t meet the snow requirements HOWEVER they have HANDILY beat, performance wise, in snow/ice the vast majority of AT tires with the snow peak rating I have used. Until you the snow gets very deep.

 

A/T tires with big knobby treads are best used to drown out your gf/wife’s voice when riding on the highway because she won’t let you turn up the radio to drown out her bickering.

 

I'd need swamp tires for that.

 

The original LTX M/S tires were good with a harder rubber compound but both the Defender M/S2s and LTX M/S2s have a softer compound that does wear out sooner. Even the techs changing them regularly agreed with me.

 

Do you have the 6 ply or 10 ply tires? I’m not familiar with the available load ratings on the AT2s. Personally, I don’t have experience with the 10 plys but I thought they lasted longer for both towing and heavy payloads.

 

I think they generally do last longer.

My truck is too sensitive to inbalance to run 10ply tires. Ps and Cs for this guy.

Btw my truck tows just fine with P-rated tires. 115 load index.

 

Best I've seen on an AT (or any tire) was 68K on a set of Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac tires on one of our work trucks. They were even studded, and studded ATs are second only to a true winter tire with studs for ice performance. Lots of on and off road driving in all weather conditions. Pretty sure it was a fluke.

 

I was shocked, too. We ran the trucks hard and on every terrain.