Tundras live: Dumb Dad Jokes, Incorrect Opinions, and Relationship Advice.

I'm not talking about "then." I'm talking about now.

 

That's awesome!

 

F yeah man.

 

Similar trick is to use a stick that will teeter them into the bucket. And fill the bucket with water. They'll drown. We do this at river camps all the time. Always get one or two every time we set it up overnight.

 

I trained a bomb dog for LASO about 17 years ago named 'Fuse'...


Cool name and that dog was cool as shit!!!!!

 

this.

as Thomas Sowell would ask..."At what cost?"

look at the $ consumed by NASA.

TAX DOLLARS.

NASA don't care about waste

 

The A/C is out in my office. 85degrees @ 5am.

I will be a smidge more smarmy till it gets fixed.

 

Seems like the general perception is that NASA has fallen quite a bit. Maybe that’s wrong because where their efforts are focused is classified? No one is contesting the feats of the Apollo program. It also happened more than a decade before I was born. I just don’t hear much if anything about NASA these days.

What I do hear a lot about is a hyper-focused autistic memelord running 6 multi-billion dollar companies who just rescued stranded astronauts from the ISS, gave satellite internet to stranded hurricane victims and their rescuers, and caught his own massive payload rocket basically with giant chopsticks.

 

True. Boeing is the outfit with problem. NASA is busy with the Orion project which is huge and no doubt costly. Times have changed and there are multiple players involved with many smaller projects. BTW, the ULA Atlas 5's were reusable. The Vulcan Centaur will also be reusable. There have been several successful Atlas launches. NASA's SLS booster dwarfs anything ever attempted payload wise. Massive =big bucks When I see Musk put a human on the moon successfully and that human is returned successfully I'll give credit when due.

 

why is putting someone on the moon a goal?

it's been done...in the 1970's.

nothing since.

didn't one of those rockets use the old Space Shuttle motors?
they grabbed them out of the mothballs.
is that innovation?

 

A 20yo company catching its own 232’ rocket in midair for reuse is impressive. Full stop. Credit due lol.

Is it as impressive as multiple manned missions to the moon with the astronauts returning safely? Nope. But those were 60+ years ago, and no one could recreate those missions right now. To me, it’s a strong indicator that we are a society in decline.

Why, decades later, are we not even more efficiently going back and forth? How do we not have a lunar outpost similar to the ISS dedicated to research? Just one guy thinking out loud; maybe it’s due to too much power struggling here on Earth. A decline in STEM field participants. People having fewer kids almost everywhere in the world (meaning fewer brilliant engineers).

Cost is probably among the biggest factors. Reusing the same multi-million-dollar rocket over and over again seems to me a pretty giant leap in making it more cost-feasible.

 

We are re-recreating manned missions to the moon as of now. Artemis missions utilizing the Orion long range space craft that can handle deep space return velocities. Artemis II 10 day flight around the moon will happen soon. Precursor to a permanent moon base for Artemis missions to Mars and as a research station. This is happening. Musk is doing just fine but it does not remotely compare to the up coming Artemis deep space missions. Keep in mind, Musk and the other players in the short-range mission realm is to be profitable allowing NASA to take on the bigger projects which is beyond everyone else's budgets tenfold. You need re-usable liquid fueled platforms to be profitable. The SLS/Orion is not meant to be profitable lol. EXPLORATION TO DEEP SPACE IS NOT PROFITABLE. I enjoyed using caps. Ha! It's a gigantic solid fuel rocket made for deep space missions with quite large payloads to support those long-term missions. Took less than 10 years from scratch to put men on the moon after Kennedy said DO IT. I like Musk's vision and glad he moves on those. He has visions about going to Mars and colonizing it. Kuul. Meanwhile NASA has a huge head start on this. Totally different ball game.

 

So not true. Moon is not the GOAL. See post 226070

 

Does anyone actually research what NASA is doing in partnership with many of our clients?

 

As they ought to, having been in operation for so long using the resources of the largest human organization in history (aka the US federal govt).

But if NASA is as hostile to good old fashioned meritocracy as most govt agencies (and corporations for that matter) seem to be these days (I’m not sure where this line is drawn or if there is even a line anymore), that head start will continue to rapidly evaporate.

 

Seems like Elon Musk’s accomplishments are also NASA’s, the same as a father supporting his son.

Elon: the rocket blew up, can I try again?
NASA: yes, keep going, we support you.
Elon: another one blew up, but I’m getting closer.
NASA: keep going, (better you than us).
Elon: I caught a rocket with my cyber claws! (Holds pinky to corner of mouth)
NASA: good job, we believe in you.
Elon: (glows with pride) Thanks!

 

NASA has undergone many changes to get leaner. Still costly programs and overbudget of course. Artemis II is on track to launch next fall on its Moon mission. I don't see anything indicating a rapid diminishment at all. NASA is back on track it seems with a very focused mission.

 

Pretty much it! Elon could run NASA more efficiently.

 

Atlas 5 was never reusable as far as I'm aware, and I'm pretty sure the Centaur has no reusability currently. I don't know of any rockets that have shown the ability for reuse besides Falcon 9 and I think Rocket Lab (Proton?), and now arguably Super Heavy booster. SLS is impressive but uses old technology and parts directly from the shuttle, and Starship/Super Heavy is considerably larger.

I feel like this comment has a lot of irony. "Musk is doing fine but not remotely compare to Artemis deep space missions"--well considering Artemis can't actually go to the lunar surface without a SpaceX spacecraft and launch platform, I'd say they're pretty tightly connected to Artemis doing much of anything.

"You need re-usable liquid fueled platforms to be profitable" and then "It's a gigantic solid fuel rocket made for deep space", except SLS has a liquid fueled core.... But those liquid fueled engines ARE meant to be reusable because they came from the Space Shuttle! Except that SLS takes all that effort to be reusable and just throws the engines out after one flight unlike the shuttle...

You are on the money, SLS is not meant to be profitable. That can certainly be seen by that program taking decades and billions of dollars, and still costs I think $4+ BILLON per launch. SpaceX I think has spent a bit over that to develop the Starship/Super Heavy to the point it's at which is significantly larger than SLS and reusable--and a rocket being reusable and landing, something NASA has never done. NASA feats are impressive no doubt, but for some reason you're overlooking the absolutely incredible pace and efficiency and hardware SpaceX is pumping out and your defense is look at the worst program NASA has ever done? NASA should cut sunk costs on SLS, and put money into supporting Starship/Super Heavy and New Glenn and making probes and other things. SLS/Artemis has always been flawed, and that's even more evident now that SpaceX is sprinting so far with their new launch platform.

Yesterday was spectacular and a huge milestone for space flight, I don't think it can be understated the amount of potential catching that booster has.

 

The Atlas program has been around for 60 years and well aware of its history. I stand corrected that the Atlas 5 is not fully reusable, but does launch reusable spacecraft like the Starliner and the AF X-37B. True. Some boosters use liquid fuel and solid fuel depending on stage. There are many opinions concerning the SLS. Reusing viable rocket motors does save money. NASA's budget is not without limits. Nevertheless, Artemis II is scheduled to launch next fall. Who else has a similar mission next fall? I'm well aware of what SpaceX is accomplishing, along with ULA, Rocket Lab among others. LASP here in Boulder too. All mentioned are calibration clients of ours that are supported by our Denver Lab where I work and our other labs. Apple to oranges. Scope of mission and completing the mission is key no matter whose mission it is. Musk is doing great things but actually getting a spacecraft to Mars to establish a colony? Not easy. Let's see how everything plays out.

 

He’d do a good job streamlining it, I agree. That would be fun to watch. He’d rename it XDA — Xploration Defense Alliance. And everyone will get matching armbands.

 

He may weaponize Starlink and name it the Defensive Orbiting National Guardians

…or DONGs



Reminder that the four Tesla cars are named
S
3
X
Y

 

Lmfao.

 

The way things are going with SpaceX he might actually take over NASA. There's so much collaboration going on already. Musk is willing to take risks knowing that risks lead to success in the long run.

 

Your PSA for the day:
https://x.com/i/status/1845849546213171641
Also, for more actual health advice, check out Tucker Carlson's interview with Calley and Casey Means.

 

Now is getting a tad better with NASA. I'm all in for Musk. He =success. NASA gets dumped on a lot. It's only the last couple decades that outside entities started to compete in NASA's realm. Competition breeds success. Is this bleeding over to NASA. You'd think. NASA can't change quickly by nature of it being a government red tape monster. Nonetheless, NASA is once again getting somewhere. Shutting the aging shuttle down with zero plans on moving forward was folly. Paying Russia to get our people to ISS was embarrassing. At least that allowed other folks to intervene which resulted to the successes we are seeing today. Doesn't mean NASA can't come around and get our folks safely to Mars and back.