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Tundra for RAM?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by ultra1988, Dec 26, 2020.

  1. Jan 14, 2021 at 8:15 PM
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    A-A-Ron

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    That really is a wall of chrome. I personally like the look of the Sport package, especially with a Tremor. A clone of that would look great!
     
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  2. Jan 16, 2021 at 7:00 AM
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    If you're driving mostly city, no truck will get good mileage.
     
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  3. Jan 16, 2021 at 7:25 AM
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    I'm glad someone else looks through Longterm Quality Index. This site is fantastic.

    It also passes the smell test from working on cars for decades. It mostly matches my experiences with very few exceptions.

    To say that Toyota, and in particular some specific models, dominates that index is an understatement of massive proportion. The indexes give you a clear picture of what models and manufacturers are really doing well.

    My only critique is (very minor) cars that are true homeruns don't "register" for a while and by the time they are registering they are many many model years old. Put another way, an OEM fixes all the bugs in a car that was a really poor unit. By the time these register, and move the needle positively, that particular model has 125k or more miles. But...it is hard to predict these things ahead of time so...this critique isn't much of a critique.
     
  4. Jan 16, 2021 at 7:31 AM
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    Yes...this ain't your father's Honda anymore...Honda used to be a good competitor to Toyota. I'd honestly take a domestic OEM over a Honda in almost every car. Odessey not withstanding...but then again I'd be driving the Sienna if I was in mini van territory.
     
  5. Jan 16, 2021 at 8:06 AM
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    If I was forced to get a minivan, I'd pay half as much to get into a Kia.
     
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  6. Jan 16, 2021 at 9:21 AM
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    ditto! The kids grow up and she won’t want the van anymore anyways
     
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  7. Jan 16, 2021 at 9:24 AM
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    Heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. Jan 16, 2021 at 9:27 AM
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    Terndrerrr it's good to get lost once in a while

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    I see the logic in it. If you buy a Sienna, you’re stuck with it. If you buy a Kia, it’ll break down and you can say, “see? Minivans are junk!”

    And just like that, no more minivans.
     
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  9. Jan 16, 2021 at 9:52 AM
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    No one in my family has ever had a problem with any Kia or Hyundai we've owned other than a battery in my brother's Tucson that went dead after 3 years.
     
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  10. Jan 16, 2021 at 11:27 AM
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  11. Jan 16, 2021 at 3:54 PM
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    Stay as far away from Hyundai's as possible. They have oiling issues in many of their engines where one of the the tubes is too small and will cause the cams to wear out. They are replacing numerous engines and there's class action lawsuits against them. Needing to replace the engine even after proper maintenance is why the wife is in a Ram now and not a Tucson.
     
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  12. Jan 16, 2021 at 4:44 PM
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    Add in cost of DEF and higher price for diesel and probably no savings
     
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  13. Jan 16, 2021 at 5:28 PM
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    I know their 1.6T engines have problems but we all went with NA options: 2.4L for me and 2.0L for my dad and brother.
     
  14. Jan 17, 2021 at 3:58 AM
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    Not nearly enough room here!
    Then there's us, with our 04 Pilot that has 362,000 miles on it with nothing done but maintenance!:D
     
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    I’ve said this on another thread somewhere , my ex’s father had a 1984 Dodge Aries ( K-Car ) with 750k on it with nothing but regular maintenance. Accidents do happen and not all of them bad .
     
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  16. Jan 17, 2021 at 7:04 AM
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    Awesome. I don’t think they started going downhill till later. You gonna try for 500k?
     
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  17. Jan 17, 2021 at 8:39 AM
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    My parents 2015 pilot is a disaster. They got an extended bumper to bumper warranty and it has saved them easily 6-7 grand so far.
     
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  18. Jan 17, 2021 at 8:46 AM
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    A friend of mine just bought a new one for his wife. His dealership would not sell him the 7-yr 100k bumper to bumper Honda warranty. They kept pushing a 3rd party warranty on him. He declined more times than he thought he should need to. Then he started looking around online and found a dealership in Rhode Island that would actually sell him the Honda warranty. He called his dealership back to let them know. They weren’t happy.

    Heck em, I say.
     
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  19. Jan 17, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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    Is this a Honda forum?
     
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  20. Jan 17, 2021 at 10:45 AM
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    The small diesel is a hard sell to me. Me and two coworker who bought ecodiesels had this discussion. They paid a $4,995 premium for the motor, a little quick math to compare price per mile is not very attractive.

    Regular fuel natl average: 2.243 @ Tundra's 16mpg = .14 per mile (https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/)
    Diesel national average: 2.635 @ ED's 31 mpg = .085 per mile
    Savings goes to ecodiesel at .055 per mile

    Divide that savings per mile by the premium and you'll break even somewhere at 90,000 miles. Not quite the savings they expected, but you do feel better at the pump. And they also get to brag about their mpg. You'd have to offer the diesel at the same price for me to even consider accepting all the other losses
     
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    The diesel math will never make sense unless you tow/haul serious weight for extended miles.

    the average American does not even keep their vehicle for 90k miles. I doubt many ram owners are either
     
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    which is to say nothing of the DEF costs and typically higher oil change costs
     
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    A ton of hot shot guys are putting 300k on 4th gen 2500’s.... all over YouTube. Maintenance is key to making them last
     
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    it makes sense for people driving way above average mileage. The average guy driving to home depot and camping 3-4 times a year doesn’t rack up the miles
     
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  25. Jan 17, 2021 at 1:01 PM
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    Oh yes I absolutely agree with that

    sorry, I thought it was about reliability for that time period, not the cost of the Diesel engine/ savings
     
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    There’s a guy on the 5th gen Ram forum with a newer eco diesel that has 500k on it so far with only regular maintenance that he does himself . He hauls and tows constantly. I believe he said he’s still on the original brakes .... I guess that makes sense when you put that many miles on in that short of a time span that you’re not doing a lot of stopping .
     
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    A 2019+ RAM with 500k miles?! :eek:
     
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    i remember reading about a gentleman who did currier services for medical parts, organs, etc, who put upwards of 3000 miles on his civic per week. The guy with the ram must be hot shotting
     
  29. Jan 17, 2021 at 4:13 PM
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    It's the NA ones that also have the problems. The dealer we took our 2.0 to said it was the 11th engine replacement he's done on those. Hyundai knows it's such a bad problem they didn't even need proof of oil changes to changes the engine under warranty since I did them myself and we still hadn't found the receipts when they approved the change under warranty.
     
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    2018 and he had to take a photo of his odometer so we’d believe him . lol
    I know that’s a 4th gen but we don’t turn people away for not having a 2019 + . Same as this forum not turning away people without Tundras .
     
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